RochesterRob Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Medina = crazy taxes As far as where to buy... when my husband was originally looking for hunting land he found a WNY historical snowfall map. After looking at it and seeing the HUGE difference between snowfalls above and below Rt 20, he abandoned the cheaper land idea south of 20. Your friend may want to investigate that too (land above Rt 20 is more than below, land above Rt 5 is more than below - generally speaking). And circling back to the land wants... Hubby's been looking for a few years for 30+ acres in Genesee County ("our" current land is on Lake Ontario). He wants at least 50% woods so he's having a tough time, but he has said that parcels of 20+ acres of cleared land come up a lot (he has notifications on for acreage for years, with and without a house). Medina is a good area but also has a lot of high quality farmland that brings a high price. Orchards are a factor and the Amish are getting to be factor up by Kendall and Lyndonville. If there is an Amish or Mennonite community nearby they bid land high with the Amish being seekers of 40-50 acre parcels in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Brockport ftw. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Info Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 4 hours ago, RochesterRob said: .,,, I did not say that Oakfield and Elba were bad places but they probably will be more expensive to pick up 25-30 acres if you don't get muscled to the side by the big players. No personal offense was intended. None was assumed. Thank you for the insight. My grandfather had a dairy farm in Kendall but that was long ago. It is out of the family now. Perhaps now owned by the Mennonites or Amish as you mentioned in another post. Some of the muck farmers near Rochester were acquaintenances in college. They were fairly young. Their big cash crop was not onions and I’ll leave it at that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 13 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: I would recommend your buddy buy anywhere from 20-50 acres just outside Batavia but close to Thruway. That land will sell for $10 million in less than 5 years. Why you might ask? #Pegula #NewStadium #BuildEastofBuffalo Maybe even a new airport for Buffalo & Rochester?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted July 21, 2018 Author Share Posted July 21, 2018 11 hours ago, DC Tom said: Falmouth is nice, though Bermuda is better. Wait...which Rochester? LOL. NY 14 hours ago, row_33 said: what's his situation? single? married with 3 kids making impossible demands?? Divorced and grown kids. He is alone. 13 hours ago, Jauronimo said: Is your friend Dunkirk Don? I'm not falling for this scam again. LOL no sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 10 hours ago, Mr Info said: That is relative. According to this USDA 2017 Farm Real Estate Value assessment, farmland is relatively inexpensive in NY compared with other states. https://www.usda.gov/nass/PUBS/TODAYRPT/land0817.pdf That does not mean you can find it for sale. just it's not that expensive in comparison. II am curious as to big farm competition articles in upstate NY because my google searches turned up rather empty. Here's the site you need for farmland values: https://www.acrevalue.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Alexander. Only because that's where I grew up and 90% of the people who are from WNY have never heard of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Chef Jim said: Alexander. Only because that's where I grew up and 90% of the people who are from WNY have never heard of it. I'm very familiar with Alexander. I've driven down 98 to Arcade and over through Springville to Dunkirk on 39. A few years ago they were doing work on 98 in Attica and the detour was over past the big house. In general more the area the OP was talking about as the ground for the most part is not suited for expensive crops which drives high land prices. I will say the land can get a little steep physically when you go a few hundred feet away from Tonawanda Creek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 https://www.redfin.com/NY/Batavia/5145-E-Main-Street-Rd-14020/home/145200473 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, mead107 said: https://www.redfin.com/NY/Batavia/5145-E-Main-Street-Rd-14020/home/145200473 Is that my retirement home you were referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Chef Jim said: Is that my retirement home you were referring to? Barn would make a great home. Hay bed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 5 hours ago, Limeaid said: Newark, NY is nice. My relatives owned farm there after my uncle retired from NY motorcycle police. He eventually sold most of farmland when he got too old for it and none of his kids were interested in farming. He did not live in the village Land there has easy access to major roads. His land had a large pond and hilled woods at back of property. They are deceased now and I think my cousin lives there. In what alternate reality is Newark between Ra-cha-cha & Buffalo? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 17 minutes ago, Taro T said: In what alternate reality is Newark between Ra-cha-cha & Buffalo? You are correct. I guess my memories are not as good as it used to be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted July 22, 2018 Author Share Posted July 22, 2018 On 7/21/2018 at 12:09 PM, Limeaid said: You are correct. I guess my memories are not as good as it used to be. Hey, dont worry about it. You were a huge help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkent14 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Acrevalue is a good tool. They are working on getting a lot of info into that system. However, they are a bit behind on recent sales. Two farms we sold over a year ago still don't show on that site as sales. Regarding land values, given the current market prices and the state of the dairy economy, there isn't as much demand as there was 18 to 30 months ago. I don't think you'll see the 8k to 12k per acre for a while. That doesn't mean the land will be cheap though. Unless it needs to be sold for an estate or financial reasons most owners are content to wait until the market rebounds. Land is a little cheaper in southern genesee county and northern Wyoming county but you're still looking at a minimum of 3-4k per acre for tillable land and around 1k for non tillable or woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 On 7/20/2018 at 10:18 AM, Jauronimo said: Is your friend Dunkirk Don? I'm not falling for this scam again. Dunkirk Don has no friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 1 hour ago, jkent14 said: Acrevalue is a good tool. They are working on getting a lot of info into that system. However, they are a bit behind on recent sales. Two farms we sold over a year ago still don't show on that site as sales. Regarding land values, given the current market prices and the state of the dairy economy, there isn't as much demand as there was 18 to 30 months ago. I don't think you'll see the 8k to 12k per acre for a while. That doesn't mean the land will be cheap though. Unless it needs to be sold for an estate or financial reasons most owners are content to wait until the market rebounds. Land is a little cheaper in southern genesee county and northern Wyoming county but you're still looking at a minimum of 3-4k per acre for tillable land and around 1k for non tillable or woods. Go south of Warsaw but that adds to the commute to and from Buffalo. Acrevalue is OK but flawed especially in this area where soil quality can vary wildly over a mile or two. Not so much just north of Batavia but getting down into Wyoming County. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 On 7/20/2018 at 10:13 AM, ricojes said: A guy from my company lives in Medina. He takes back roads to Buffalo and Rochester, but I don't know much about the area. I grew up there though no longer live there. Small town living and really depends on what you are looking for. Very quiet and homes are very inexpensive as compared to other places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 2 hours ago, NoSaint said: Dunkirk Don has no friends. But he has multiple high level business meeting associates.... he may have gone quiet after one sneaked up behind him. Hard to say for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 On 7/21/2018 at 9:22 AM, Chef Jim said: Alexander. Only because that's where I grew up and 90% of the people who are from WNY have never heard of it. Odds are you know a few Correction Officers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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