unbillievable Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 For the people who just can't keep it to themselves. Talk about Avengers in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Who cares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted April 30, 2018 Author Share Posted April 30, 2018 Avengers breaks record for biggest opening weekend box office ever. https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2018/04/29/avengers-infinity-war-biggest-box-office-opening-weekend-ever/562721002/ It's so popular, that hipsters have begun to proudly declare they won't go see it, or that they just don't care... cause they're unique that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 So they have to bring back some of them, but I hope a few actually stay dead. I feel like anyone who was legitimately killed (Loki, Heimdall, Gamora) should stay dead while anyone who faded away should eventually be brought back. There needs to be some sort of repercussions after all of this is done. So other than the original cast of Avengers (including Hawkeye, who I bet resurfaces in the next one), did anyone else beyond Rocket, War Machine, and Nebula survive? I'm guessing Antman will be there next time too. Those extra throw-ins seem like odd choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, shrader said: So they have to bring back some of them, but I hope a few actually stay dead. I feel like anyone who was legitimately killed (Loki, Heimdall, Gamora) should stay dead while anyone who faded away should eventually be brought back. There needs to be some sort of repercussions after all of this is done. So other than the original cast of Avengers (including Hawkeye, who I bet resurfaces in the next one), did anyone else beyond Rocket, War Machine, and Nebula survive? I'm guessing Antman will be there next time too. Those extra throw-ins seem like odd choices. Antman and Wasp will be there for sure. Also, the tag-on alluded to Captain Marvel. Her movie debuts one month before the next Avengers and it is said that she will be the most-powerful hero Marvel has put on screen so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 I saw it and I thought they did a good job fitting *everyone* in this movie. Thanos makes for a compelling villain, perhaps the best of the Avengers series - he's not bad just to be bad. Since new Avengers are coming aboard, it makes sense that some have to fade away in 2019. (Ross Marquand from the Walking Dead is in this movie. You won't spot him though but he got the role based on his talent for voice impressions.) As a sidebar: How many Jurassic Park movies can they make? Every movie revolves around A) the island and B) dinosaurs on said island. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Good point about Thanos. It feels like the first time where there was actually a reason for the villain wanting to destroy everything. Here’s my random moment of overthinking something. If he kills half of all life, doesn’t that remove half the animals and plants, leading to the same lack of available resources, at least when it comes to food? And yes, I was very worried about character overload going into this movie, but they dealt with that really well. I never felt like one person was given more attention than anyone else (I’m looking at you, Robert Downey Jr). I’ve got that same concern for Deadpool next month. Hopefully that one proves me wrong too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 An interesting note: You may have noticed in the credits that a character from Arrested Development was listed. It is Tobias Funke (David Cross) in his Blue Man Group get-up. He appears in a glass cage when Thanos is attacking the Collector. The interesting thing is that scene is soon revealed to be of Thanos' conjuring and not reality at all, meaning that Thanos is a fan of arrested Development? Read more about it here: https://screenrant.com/infinity-war-thanos-arrested-development-easter-egg/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 That is ridiculously funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted April 30, 2018 Author Share Posted April 30, 2018 7 hours ago, shrader said: So they have to bring back some of them, but I hope a few actually stay dead. I feel like anyone who was legitimately killed (Loki, Heimdall, Gamora) should stay dead while anyone who faded away should eventually be brought back. There needs to be some sort of repercussions after all of this is done. So other than the original cast of Avengers (including Hawkeye, who I bet resurfaces in the next one), did anyone else beyond Rocket, War Machine, and Nebula survive? I'm guessing Antman will be there next time too. Those extra throw-ins seem like odd choices. Kevin Feige confirmed that there will be real deaths in INfinity War. Some of these characters will stay dead. I think it was a mistake to smoke Black Panther and Spider-man, two characters we know they can't kill outright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 19 hours ago, mrags said: Who cares You don't care. Congratulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 5 hours ago, unbillievable said: Kevin Feige confirmed that there will be real deaths in INfinity War. Some of these characters will stay dead. I think it was a mistake to smoke Black Panther and Spider-man, two characters we know they can't kill outright. They essentially wiped out everyone but the original Avengers, with a couple extras thrown in. It’s fitting that they’ll be the ones to save the day and them marvel will move forward to the newer characters. 5 hours ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: I just saw this movie and it was the first avengers-marvel movie I have seen. I don’t understand the Allure of these movies. . So the first one you saw was the 18th or 19th in a series of movies. Don’t you think that might have a lot to do with not understanding what is drawing in viewers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Was meh. I mean. I expected more. Waiting on end credits now. Need to digest some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 11 hours ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: I just saw this movie and it was the first avengers-marvel movie I have seen. I don’t understand the Allure of these movies. also, the motive of Thanos wanting to destroy 1/2 the universe for balance is puzzling. This is like watching Game of Thrones for the first time during the red wedding and being puzzled why everyone is freaking out. A lot of people have spent 10 years getting to know these characters. There is a bigger impact when you actually see them get their butts kicked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seregil42 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Movie would have been more enjoyable were it not for the moron who brought their 1 year old kid into the theater. At least I get a free ticket for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Peter dinklage was a giant. Hahaha 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Boyst62 said: Peter dinklage was a giant. Hahaha I thought that was a great touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew in CA Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 This movie was excellent and is the only movie I have ever seen in theaters that I am seriously contemplating buying another ticket for. Everyone's entitled to their opinion but I thought it rocked, paid off and referenced so many big and small things from all the previous 17(!) MCU movies, and I have no idea where they are taking it for the finale next year (other than the appearance of Captain Marvel -- that better be one hell of a movie/character if she factors big into Avengers 4). My guess is that the new Ant-man movie and exploring the microverse will probably play a significant part, and I've seen some io9 comments about potential time travel. That seems possible with the use of the time stone if they can somehow get it back, but I hope they don't overdo it. Time travel does not seem to really "fit" the MCU. I am really happy they didn't axe Cap or Iron Man before they got a chance to reconcile after the events of CA: Civil War. This was the exact right amount of Dr. Strange IMO and I liked his immediate disdain for Stark. The Thor/Guardians stuff was really funny and they actually made me invested in the fate of the Guardians (I don't dislike those movies, but I never rewatch them). Bummed Loki is probably gone forever because I thought he was a great villain/anti-hero but his number was up after double-crossing Thor a million times. Would've liked a bit more Black Panther and his crew since that movie was so great but I'm guessing IW was in the can by the time Black Panther blew up so they didn't know he would become so popular. I wonder who (if anyone) is going to team up with Thanos for the next one since his whole crew was killed, or if he just goes solo. The gauntlet looked charred and probably no longer usable so maybe he's not as powerful? Or I could be reading too much into that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew in CA Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 On 4/30/2018 at 6:57 AM, ChevyVanMiller said: Antman and Wasp will be there for sure. Also, the tag-on alluded to Captain Marvel. Her movie debuts one month before the next Avengers and it is said that she will be the most-powerful hero Marvel has put on screen so far. I think Hawkeye is still out there too. 21 hours ago, shrader said: They essentially wiped out everyone but the original Avengers, with a couple extras thrown in. It’s fitting that they’ll be the ones to save the day and them marvel will move forward to the newer characters. So the first one you saw was the 18th or 19th in a series of movies. Don’t you think that might have a lot to do with not understanding what is drawing in viewers? I was thinking afterwards how many movies you would have need to seen in advance to have even the most basic plot comprehension. For example, I just caught Thor 3 only a week or so before seeing IW and I'm really glad I did, otherwise I would have had no clue what the hell was going on in the first scene. I'm thinking the following will get you basic plot comprehension: Avengers 1 and 2; Thor 3; Guardians 1; and Captain America 3. I think that would give you enough of a sense of the infinity stones mythos, and the basic relationships and dynamics between the characters, so you could follow the plot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 I think I’d throw guardians 2 in there for Nebula’s role in the whole thing, no matter how small that wound up being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Andrew in CA said: I think Hawkeye is still out there too. I was thinking afterwards how many movies you would have need to seen in advance to have even the most basic plot comprehension. For example, I just caught Thor 3 only a week or so before seeing IW and I'm really glad I did, otherwise I would have had no clue what the hell was going on in the first scene. I'm thinking the following will get you basic plot comprehension: Avengers 1 and 2; Thor 3; Guardians 1; and Captain America 3. I think that would give you enough of a sense of the infinity stones mythos, and the basic relationships and dynamics between the characters, so you could follow the plot. Someone who hasn’t seen any of these but wants to go to IW asked me the same thing. First I told him to watch Avengers, Winter Soldier, Avengers 2, Civil War, and both Guardians. Later, I told him he’s better off taking his time, watching them all, and getting ready for IW pt. 2 next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 10 hours ago, Rico said: Someone who hasn’t seen any of these but wants to go to IW asked me the same thing. First I told him to watch Avengers, Winter Soldier, Avengers 2, Civil War, and both Guardians. Later, I told him he’s better off taking his time, watching them all, and getting ready for IW pt. 2 next year. Another teacher at work tried to convince my wife that they should take a couple kids to see it as a part of this school fundraiser they have each year. She hasn't seen anything but the first two Captain America movies, and even then she barely paid attention. I was trying to think up a way of giving her a crash course of character backgrounds to help her stay awake through the whole thing. I quickly realized that there is no possible way I could do that. Now after having seen the movie, I really hope they decide against this movie. They're second grade and I think the story line could be a bit much for kids that age. If nothing else, they need to see it with someone who can actually explain it to them after it is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew in CA Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 19 hours ago, Rico said: Someone who hasn’t seen any of these but wants to go to IW asked me the same thing. First I told him to watch Avengers, Winter Soldier, Avengers 2, Civil War, and both Guardians. Later, I told him he’s better off taking his time, watching them all, and getting ready for IW pt. 2 next year. totally agree -- they're not all A+ but a lot of them are very good and i think that it's more fun for the viewer when you get combinations like Dr. Strange/Spiderman or Thor/Rocket Raccoon that you haven't seen before if you're familiar with their own movies. 8 hours ago, shrader said: Another teacher at work tried to convince my wife that they should take a couple kids to see it as a part of this school fundraiser they have each year. She hasn't seen anything but the first two Captain America movies, and even then she barely paid attention. I was trying to think up a way of giving her a crash course of character backgrounds to help her stay awake through the whole thing. I quickly realized that there is no possible way I could do that. Now after having seen the movie, I really hope they decide against this movie. They're second grade and I think the story line could be a bit much for kids that age. If nothing else, they need to see it with someone who can actually explain it to them after it is over. Yeah i think under 10 years old is going to be too much to take. Loki gets the life choked out of him and they show his lifeless eyes in the first 10 minutes -- not to mention Spiderman's particularly excruciating pleas to Stark could be too much for younger kids. Although i don't have any kids so maybe they're more desensitized these days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, shrader said: Another teacher at work tried to convince my wife that they should take a couple kids to see it as a part of this school fundraiser they have each year. She hasn't seen anything but the first two Captain America movies, and even then she barely paid attention. I was trying to think up a way of giving her a crash course of character backgrounds to help her stay awake through the whole thing. I quickly realized that there is no possible way I could do that. Now after having seen the movie, I really hope they decide against this movie. They're second grade and I think the story line could be a bit much for kids that age. If nothing else, they need to see it with someone who can actually explain it to them after it is over. I don't know about taking 2nd-graders even if they knew the characters. There were some kids just bawling during & after the ending when I went, ie. "Not Black Panther too!" "Spider-man!" I was a little choked up myself. Edited May 2, 2018 by Rico 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 I'd take second graders in a heart bear. Might as well find out reality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 14 hours ago, Boyst62 said: I'd take second graders in a heart bear. Might as well find out reality. I've got no problem with at as long as there is someone with them who actually knows what is going on. The wife would have been even more confused than the kids. On a side note, I don't know what a heart bear is, but I feel like I should be scared of it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 56 minutes ago, shrader said: I've got no problem with at as long as there is someone with them who actually knows what is going on. The wife would have been even more confused than the kids. On a side note, I don't know what a heart bear is, but I feel like I should be scared of it. Has she been wearing a lot of clown make up recently or having a lot of photos with fish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 On 5/2/2018 at 9:48 AM, shrader said: Another teacher at work tried to convince my wife that they should take a couple kids to see it as a part of this school fundraiser they have each year. She hasn't seen anything but the first two Captain America movies, and even then she barely paid attention. I was trying to think up a way of giving her a crash course of character backgrounds to help her stay awake through the whole thing. I quickly realized that there is no possible way I could do that. Now after having seen the movie, I really hope they decide against this movie. They're second grade and I think the story line could be a bit much for kids that age. If nothing else, they need to see it with someone who can actually explain it to them after it is over. There are actually some decent summary vids on youtube that might be better than watching selective movies. (I havent seen the one below) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 IW was great. Going again tomorrow (wife wants to take her little sister and Im more than happy to see it again). I thought there were a lot of other ways they could have done it as well that would have been good, but i didn't have problems with the way they did it. I agree that Thanos is a great villain- I did think the thing with him and Gamora seemed a little forced, but I will have to see on the re-watch. I thought that his black order was spectacular and could have deserved more screen time (they are far more bada$$ in the comics) but I understand that they didn't want to take away from scrotum face. As far as deaths go, it's hard to see Loki (easily a top 3 character in the entire MCU) go out like that (it felt rushed), but if they bring him back again it'll just be dumb. I expect Gamora to come back -- though It would be cool to see her left as is at the end of part two, and then guardians 3 be focused on her in the "soul relm" or whatever, and the guardians split up followed by them having to get her back somehow.- That way there's more time to flesh out Star Lords response to her death and it doesn't come across as completely free of consequence. This also opens the door for a very gamora focused movie which i saw was the plann from James Gunn. It would also allow them to use Thanos in that "soul realm" and with flashbacks to continue to draw him out (depending on how it ends with him) and build on the depth he's already been given. Also, this could help them bring Nebula more into focus, which could be interesting. I hope that Vision stays dead for two reasons- 1, it opens the door for a much darker version of Scarlet Witch. We can see her character grow as she deals with losing first her brother, now her... whatever that is. 2, as much as Paul Bettany is one of the best actors in the entire MCU, vision is just a hard character to do anything with. He's supposed to be this perfect creation, but then they try to humanize him and it gets tricky. I think that the deaths that will matter the most will be the deaths that come in part two. I fully expect at least one of the big four to die (Thor, Cap, Iron Man, Hulk) but probably at least 2. I think this is the natural conclusion for Iron Man and Captain America (or should I say Steve Rogers) but Thor dying wouldn't surprise me after his moment with Rocket (though I would say after Ragnorak he has a ton of value) Hulk is probably safe just cause everyone wants Hulk (and how do you even kill him in a realistic way?). My thought is that it will be both Rogers and Stark, which would be a huge blow, but would definitely make sense. Alternatively, It would be very fitting for Tony to do something to surrender his life only for Steve to stop him and give up his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 34 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I agree that Thanos is a great villain- I did think the thing with him and Gamora seemed a little forced, but I will have to see on the re-watch. I thought that his black order was spectacular and could have deserved more screen time (they are far more bada$$ in the comics) but I understand that they didn't want to take away from scrotum face. I had no issue with anything between Thanos and Gamora. Looking back, they planted the seeds for that really well in Guardians 2. She never realized it, but Nebula sure as hell did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 54 minutes ago, shrader said: I had no issue with anything between Thanos and Gamora. Looking back, they planted the seeds for that really well in Guardians 2. She never realized it, but Nebula sure as hell did. I guess the one thing was that this movie had so much going on that you have to see it a couple times to really digest it. I will see tomorrow what I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 On 5/1/2018 at 6:09 AM, Boyst62 said: Peter dinklage was a giant. Hahaha On 5/1/2018 at 10:01 AM, ChevyVanMiller said: I thought that was a great touch. I had to stifle my laughter every time he was on screen. Just hearing that big deep voice of his made me want to burst into hysterics. He's a fine actor, but I really wish they had just made a CGI character and used his voice instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 11 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: I had to stifle my laughter every time he was on screen. Just hearing that big deep voice of his made me want to burst into hysterics. He's a fine actor, but I really wish they had just made a CGI character and used his voice instead. At one point I had to convince myself the squirrel wasn't real. This took CGI to a new level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GaryPinC Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Saw the movie yesterday, I enjoyed it and thought it was well done overall. A lot going on but the overall plot kept things together. I noticed near the end when Captain America grabbed Thanos' guantlet, Thanos' didn't seem able to use it against him and had to punch CA away with his other hand. Curious, not sure if it'll come into play in the second one. Only negative was that while I enjoy the quips and humor there were a couple times where they overdid it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 4 hours ago, GaryPinC said: Saw the movie yesterday, I enjoyed it and thought it was well done overall. A lot going on but the overall plot kept things together. I noticed near the end when Captain America grabbed Thanos' guantlet, Thanos' didn't seem able to use it against him and had to punch CA away with his other hand. Curious, not sure if it'll come into play in the second one. Only negative was that while I enjoy the quips and humor there were a couple times where they overdid it. I will.do my best by memory Capt got his strength by the space stone Vision mind stone Hulk ?? Thor from ? Ok. Hungover. Can't think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted May 7, 2018 Author Share Posted May 7, 2018 I was hoping Cap would have gotten his shield back. One of the best scenes in the comics is Thanos shattering it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 I liked it, saw it Saturday. Have to assume that this is the one timeline that Dr Strange saw where they can win, he said this was the only way as he was fading out. Just not sure how they bring it all back around. Also wondering if Hulk is now afraid to fight or just won't fight anyone but Thanos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 On 5/6/2018 at 7:24 AM, GaryPinC said: I noticed near the end when Captain America grabbed Thanos' guantlet, Thanos' didn't seem able to use it against him and had to punch CA away with his other hand. Curious, not sure if it'll come into play in the second one. They were a little loose on the rules for when he could use the gauntlet. Weren't they trying to stop him from making a fist at some point because that was when he could use it? The whole scene on Titan where they were trying to remove it, that's where they played up that angle. So if Cap is holding his hand open there, he may not be able to use the gauntlet at that moment. But then, when he does ultimately snap his fingers, was it the gauntlet hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 3 hours ago, Soda Popinski said: I liked it, saw it Saturday. Have to assume that this is the one timeline that Dr Strange saw where they can win, he said this was the only way as he was fading out. Just not sure how they bring it all back around. Also wondering if Hulk is now afraid to fight or just won't fight anyone but Thanos. Strange is the only character that has the ability to defeat Thanos. Full house sister Scarlett witch is also close. The comics had Thanos lose his gauntlet when he went out of his physical form. That's when Bradley Cooper's exes character takes it and rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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