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6 hours ago, COLDFRONT said:

We need to stay put and draft 2 stud  olineman to protect AJ so he doesn't get killed the first game. Jesus can't we have an offseason where we aren't behind the gun?????

 

Or how about we draft a QB and let Mccarron/Peterman get killed behind the OL while our rookie learns the ropes for a season, then we have about 80M next season can bolster the OL, makes more sense imo.

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10 hours ago, COLDFRONT said:

We need to stay put and draft 2 stud  olineman to protect AJ so he doesn't get killed the first game. Jesus can't we have an offseason where we aren't behind the gun?????

Per your suggestion my latest fanspeak on the clock draft

 

1:12    G Q Nelson (Lucky to be there I know)

1. 22  G W Hernandez (Yep 2 guards in 1st)

2:21 QB M Rudolph

2:24  T K Miller

3:01 WR J Washington (Pair with Rudolph)

3:32 CB A Everett (Best DB available)

4:21 DT R McIntosh (Eventual replacement for Kyle)

5:29 LB O Burks (Best LB Available)

6:13 C  W Clapp

 

Of course with the logic of so many here, I should have traded Q Nelson , W Hernandez, M Rudolph, Kolton Miller AND a 2019 #1  for Josh Rosen   (Facepalm)

 

Or in other words

 

Rosen - Rudolph (difference between 2 in value)  is better than Quentin Nelson, Will Hernandez, Kolton Miller AND 2019 #1  (Facepalm again)

 

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5 minutes ago, CamboBill said:

Per your suggestion my latest fans peak draft

 

1:12    G Q Nelson (Lucky to be there I know)

1. 22  G W Hernandez (Yep 2 guards in 1st)

2:21 QB M Rudolph

2:24  T K Miller

3:01 WR J Washington (Pair with Rudolph

3:32 CB A Everett (Best DB available)

4:19 DT R McIntosh (Eventual replacement for Kyle)

5:29 LB O Burks (Best LB Available)

6:14 C   W Clapp

 

Of course with the logic of so many here, I should have traded Q Nelson , W Hernandez, M Rudolph, Kolton Miller AND a 2019 #1  for Josh Rosen   (Facepalm)

 

Or in other words

 

Rosen - Rudolph (difference between 2 in value)  is better than Quentin Nelson, Will Hernandez, Kolton Miller AND 2019 #1  (Facepalm again)

 

 

Yes...let's use fanspeak to draft for us and ignore everything about QBs we know.

 

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2 minutes ago, N.Y. Orangeman said:

 

Yes...let's use fanspeak to draft for us and ignore everything about QBs we know.

 

 

You missed the point.  this is a reasonable representation of how much value we would be giving up to "upgrade" from Rudolph to Rosen.

I would add, that with no offensive line it does not matter who is at QB .... and it eliminates the running game too.

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1 minute ago, N.Y. Orangeman said:

I understand your point, but you aren't accounting for the loss of historic value at the qb position by taking one in the 2nd round as opposed to trading up.

 

As they say, "Past performance does not necessarily reflect future returns".

 

I think every year needs to be looked at in a vacuum. Sure we can learn from historical trends, but not be tied to them.  What matters is the individual players available at the time.  I like Rosen, but to trade two drafts away to get him and then put a frail, concussion prone QB  behind a line that includes dawkins/miller/bodine/ducasse/Milla ... seems foolhardy at best.  Sure we could sit him for two years while we try to build an OL, but then maybe we are better off getting a more mobile QB who can at least run for his life and has a longer incubation period in terms of being ready to play (Allen or Jackson).  I like Rosen, but he will be roadkill very quickly  behind a line like that.

 

There is a lot to be learned from the Colts/Andrew Luck Saga .... or for that matter Texans/Carr,  Browns/Couch ..... all talented QBS who had their careers derailed by all the punishment they took early on.

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