The Wiz Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, KRT88 said: Can the conditional pick officially be nothing? that would be funny if they guy literally ends up being traded for nothing. Yes it can. It happened with the Cardinals and Levi brown. http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/levi-brown-trade-was-it-worth-it-for-the-arizona-cardinals-6631017 TL;DR version He needed to be on the active roster for 5 games but got hurt in camp and was out for the season so no comp pick. Edited March 28, 2018 by The Wiz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 He was very productive in college. I remember him throwing like 7 tds.m against Notre Dame and everyone thought he was amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 2 hours ago, buffaloaggie said: I'm not a big fan of Darnold. Carson Palmer is likely the only USC exception. Otherwise, you have Matt Leinart, Mark Sanchez, Todd Marinovich, Matt Barkley, Rob Johnson, Matt Cassel, Rodney Peete, Pat Haden, John David Booty, Cody Kessler, Sean Salisbury, Paul McDonald and Vince Evans. Not much NFL success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 1 hour ago, reddogblitz said: Kessler will he this year's Keenum. Agreed. Their names are very similar and they have the same initials. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 1 hour ago, BuffaloSol said: If it was the same coach and system the whole time you would be on to something, but these using a false equivalency like the schools name should not be used to judge a QB. Even that's problematic. Being attached to Jeff Tedford (coach of Akili Smith, Joey Harrington, Kyle Boller, and AJ Feeley) led to Aaron Rodgers dropping 20 some-odd draft slots. Lesson: Always, always judge the player and disregard the rep of the school and the system. The latter path is lazy thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Could be the next Joe Webb! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 More, and from a Buffalo scout in 2005 no less: "Marc Ross, Buffalo: "[Aaron Rodgers] is a little short. The thing you worry about is those (Jeff) Tedford guys. They don't do anything for a couple years and then they have a good year or two. Who of his quarterbacks has done what they're supposed to do? None of them. Is he just working magic with great college quarterbacks or just manufacturing guys?" http://archive.jsonline.com/sports/packers/203116571.html/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloSol Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 13 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Even that's problematic. Being attached to Jeff Tedford (coach of Akili Smith, Joey Harrington, Kyle Boller, and AJ Feeley) led to Aaron Rodgers dropping 20 some-odd draft slots. Lesson: Always, always judge the player and disregard the rep of the school and the system. The latter path is lazy thinking. I agree but it still has more relevance than the name of the school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 1 minute ago, BuffaloSol said: I agree but it still has more relevance than the name of the school. See immediately above! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Mark80 said: Kessler is an improvement over Bortles IMO. I actually liked him coming out. Very accurate passer. Don't let his experience with the Browns fool you completely. He can become something...maybe...possibly...but probably not at this point. 2 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: I am not 100% sure Cody Kessler isn't just as good as Blake Bortles. I think this is a very cheap way for the Jaguars to get a guy who could push Bortles to start and not have to use a legitimate draft pick. I think its a great move for the Jags. You're both kidding, right? Bortles is absolutely better that Kessler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Not kidding at all. Bortles is absolutely atrocious at times. For example, the game against the Bills in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Reed83HOF Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 29 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: More, and from a Buffalo scout in 2005 no less: "Marc Ross, Buffalo: "[Aaron Rodgers] is a little short. The thing you worry about is those (Jeff) Tedford guys. They don't do anything for a couple years and then they have a good year or two. Who of his quarterbacks has done what they're supposed to do? None of them. Is he just working magic with great college quarterbacks or just manufacturing guys?" http://archive.jsonline.com/sports/packers/203116571.html/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 It is surprising that the Browns could not get more for their former 3rd round pick; he must really look bad to professional evaluators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Given this trade, do you guys think the Browns might take a QB in the draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Browns are setting themselves to set up a trade for a first this year, a first next year and more picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Am I the only one who watches Browns games more than I'd like too? I think they have some Texas players so they get airtime here. Anyways, I thought Kessler was their best quarterback for the most part since he joined. He made some great throws without much help around him. Does anyone agree? I think he could have a resurgence elsewhere, certainly as a backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 4 hours ago, rodneykm said: Stay far, far away from Darnold. It seems to be an ominous sign!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 51 minutes ago, Limeaid said: It is surprising that the Browns could not get more for their former 3rd round pick; he must really look bad to professional evaluators. Like we did with Ragland? I think they just don't want too many quarterbacks is all. I'd say if you think the Browns lost on the trade, it's probably because professional evaluators took advantage of Brown's FO. Shocker. Then again I don't know the full details of the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 5 hours ago, Limeaid said: Browns are setting themselves to set up a trade for a first this year, a first next year and more picks. Maybe at 4. They are drafting a QB at 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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