YoloinOhio Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: 25% of students at Alabama have an ACT score of 32 or greater, and 40% have an ACT score of 30 or greater. Believe it or not, Alabama has about the same percentage of high end students as elite public universities. Don't understimate Alabama academics. He wants to start. Buffalo gives him that opportunity and other teams didn't. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 2 hours ago, MAJBobby said: COLLEGE MEANS NOTHING McCarron was a 5th round pick So college means nothing, but draft order does? How does someone determine draft order if college means nothing? 2 hours ago, Tyrod's friend said: Some people like to have something to complain about. I don't get the negativity either. Likely to be the same people that will complain bitterly when the front office doesn't do exactly what they think should happen, or quibble over every single draft pick, or tell us they can do this whole thing better. What ev. These are the same people that should the Bills ever win a Super Bowl will complain that we didn't win by enough points or our QB didn't throw for enough yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sky Diver said: 25% of students at Alabama have an ACT score of 32 or greater, and 40% have an ACT score of 30 or greater. Believe it or not, Alabama has about the same percentage of high end students as elite public universities. Don't understimate Alabama academics. He wants to start. Buffalo gives him that opportunity and other teams didn't. It was a joke. I wish I had the same passion in defending something as you do for Alabama. It's pretty damn impressive. Edited March 22, 2018 by stony 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollBillsRoll Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, stony said: It was a joke. I wish I had the same passion in defending something as you do for Alabama. It's pretty damn impressive. Don't know that it is an Alabama thing. Did he defend or say anything good about Marcel Dareus or Cyrus K.? I won't. But our NFL QB drought at Bama has been loooong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Doc said: OK, so how much is too much in your opinion? And what if Rosen busts? You have nothing to show for the 2017 draft and you've set yourself back years. Fallacy on setting anything back years. Too much is over 50% premium on the pick moving into. So giving up 3901 points to move into a 2600 point pick 1 hour ago, reddogblitz said: So college means nothing, but draft order does? How does someone determine draft order if college means nothing? These are the same people that should the Bills ever win a Super Bowl will complain that we didn't win by enough points or our QB didn't throw for enough yards. Trying ti Bring up his college Now when his college tape made him a 5th round pick in a relatively weak QB class does mean NOTHING the fact he could not beat out a meddling NFL QB does mean something Edited March 22, 2018 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, RollBillsRoll said: Don't know that it is an Alabama thing. Did he defend or say anything good about Marcel Dareus or Cyrus K.? I won't. But our NFL QB drought at Bama has been loooong. I wasn't a fan of Dareus from the very beginning. Cyrus K. was a reach. 32 minutes ago, stony said: It was a joke. I wish I had the same passion in defending something as you do for Alabama. It's pretty damn impressive. Love most things about the school. Edited March 22, 2018 by Sky Diver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 10 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: the fact he could not beat out a meddling NFL QB does mean something No it doesn't. Dalton is their guy and took them to the playoffs 4 years in a row. You gotta knock out the champ. Just because he didn't doesn't mean he can't be effective here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 minute ago, reddogblitz said: No it doesn't. Dalton is their guy and took them to the playoffs 4 years in a row. You gotta knock out the champ. Just because he didn't doesn't mean he can't be effective here. So everyone is siked for a QB that cant beat out Andy Dalton. AWESOME yep people just hate top emd QB play in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 22, 2018 Author Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 minute ago, reddogblitz said: No it doesn't. Dalton is their guy and took them to the playoffs 4 years in a row. You gotta knock out the champ. Just because he didn't doesn't mean he can't be effective here. Garoppolo sat behind Brady with only two starts. There would have been a bidding war for him if he hit UFA as opposed to what happened with AJM. McCarron will have a chance nonetheless to prove all doubters wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: yep people just hate top emd QB play in Buffalo. How so? I'd love top end QB play in Buffalo. Hopefully we see it this year. It's easy to find evidently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, reddogblitz said: How so? I'd love top end QB play in Buffalo. Hopefully we see it this year. It's easy to find evidently. All McCarron is the low paid vet to keep the seat warm and have the Rookie earn it Edited March 22, 2018 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) Just now, MAJBobby said: All McCarron is the low paid vet to keep the seat warm We'll see ... That's why they play the games. I'm hoping for the best. Edited March 22, 2018 by reddogblitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 30 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Fallacy on setting anything back years. Too much is over 50% premium on the pick moving into. So giving up 3901 points to move into a 2600 point pick Trying ti Bring up his college Now when his college tape made him a 5th round pick in a relatively weak QB class does mean NOTHING the fact he could not beat out a meddling NFL QB does mean something Seems pretty arbitrary. Again if this draft truly has 70 starting-caliber players, the Bills can get 5 of them, and they trade them away for the chance at one guy at a position with a 30% success rate of being a franchise QB, that's not a good use of resources. And if he turns out to be one of the 70%... And McCarron was never going to unseat Dalton. Not with the Bengals giving Dalton a huge extension prior to the 2014 season, making the playoffs every year Dalton had been there through the 2015 season, and Dalton having an excellent 2016 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 22, 2018 Author Share Posted March 22, 2018 Just now, Doc said: Seems pretty arbitrary. Again if this draft truly has 70 starting-caliber players, the Bills can get 5 of them, and they trade them away for the chance at one guy at a position with a 30% success rate of being a franchise QB, that's not a good use of resources. And if he turns out to be one of the 70%... And McCarron was never going to unseat Dalton. Not with the Bengals giving Dalton a huge extension prior to the 2014 season, making the playoffs every year Dalton had been there through the 2015 season, and Dalton having an excellent 2016 season. 1996 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: 1996 A great and a terrible year. I graduated med school...and then started internship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Doc said: Seems pretty arbitrary. Again if this draft truly has 70 starting-caliber players, the Bills can get 5 of them, and they trade them away for the chance at one guy at a position with a 30% success rate of being a franchise QB, that's not a good use of resources. And if he turns out to be one of the 70%... And McCarron was never going to unseat Dalton. Not with the Bengals giving Dalton a huge extension prior to the 2014 season, making the playoffs every year Dalton had been there through the 2015 season, and Dalton having an excellent 2016 season. I like how this argument goes to 30% success rate for the position. What is the Success rate of players picked at 65? 53? this argument always goes we can get starters with the other picks without actually talking about the CHANCE of THAT actually happening. If you actually lay that out, I bet it doesn't look as bad to package them up for that 30% chance at finally fixing the most important position on the football field. Edited March 22, 2018 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 19 minutes ago, Doc said: Seems pretty arbitrary. Again if this draft truly has 70 starting-caliber players, the Bills can get 5 of them, and they trade them away for the chance at one guy at a position with a 30% success rate of being a franchise QB, that's not a good use of resources. And if he turns out to be one of the 70%... And McCarron was never going to unseat Dalton. Not with the Bengals giving Dalton a huge extension prior to the 2014 season, making the playoffs every year Dalton had been there through the 2015 season, and Dalton having an excellent 2016 season. And Brett Favre couldn't beat out Chris Chandler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 22, 2018 Author Share Posted March 22, 2018 Just now, reddogblitz said: And Brett Favre couldn't beat out Chris Chandler. Favre was raw and didn't stay in ATL for very long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 My hope is plays at a Case Keenum level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 22, 2018 Author Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: My hope is plays at a Case Keenum level. If only the Bills had the talent of the Vikings to surround him with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 21 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: If only the Bills had the talent of the Vikings to surround him with. That can happen real quick with all those picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 1:57 PM, elltrain22 said: Call me crazy, but convince why he isn't just as good as Garrappolo?? Accurate passer, intelligent, potential, and knows how to win football games. Ok. Go look up Garoppolo’s stats with NEvand with SF. Then look up McCarron’s in 2015. Convince yourself. Explain to us why they are just as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sky Diver said: I wasn't a fan of Dareus from the very beginning. Cyrus K. was a reach. Love most things about the school. Its a good school, no doubt. Not a Stanford or maybe even an UNC on a state school level, but still a fine institution. And like him or not, Saban is the best. Edited March 22, 2018 by stony 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigduke6 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) i listened to him being interviewed live, and i must say, he either was bored, sleepy, or hes dumber than a box of rocks. not saying he definately is, but that was a terrible segment to listen too. if hes our starter day 1, ill support him till he doesnt deserve it anymore, but this particular interview didnt leave me feeling like our QB situation has been resolved. Edited March 22, 2018 by bigduke6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I think the interesting part of McCarran is that he sat on the bench. Why is that interesting. 1. He won't want to go there again. 2. He sat behind Dalton for a while. And say what you will about Dalton but he got them to the playoffs a few years in a row and he's a pro...maybe not the best pro but he's a good mentor. 3. He's a smart enough kid yo know how to prep properly after sitting for a while so I believe he will be ready to play whenever we need him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 2 hours ago, MAJBobby said: I like how this argument goes to 30% success rate for the position. What is the Success rate of players picked at 65? 53? this argument always goes we can get starters with the other picks without actually talking about the CHANCE of THAT actually happening. If you actually lay that out, I bet it doesn't look as bad to package them up for that 30% chance at finally fixing the most important position on the football field. Sorry but if I'm offering-up at least 5 premium picks, I'm going to need more than a 30% chance at a franchise QB (and that includes guys like Matt Stafford, Carson Palmer, and Alex Smith). If you want to talk SB-winning QB's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Doc said: Sorry but if I'm offering-up at least 5 premium picks, I'm going to need more than a 30% chance at a franchise QB (and that includes guys like Matt Stafford, Carson Palmer, and Alex Smith). If you want to talk SB-winning QB's... What are the chances you get a premium player at those picks again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 4 hours ago, aristocrat said: That can happen real quick with all those picks. big maybe 3 hours ago, bigduke6 said: i listened to him being interviewed live, and i must say, he either was bored, sleepy, or hes dumber than a box of rocks. not saying he definately is, but that was a terrible segment to listen too. if hes our starter day 1, ill support him till he doesnt deserve it anymore, but this particular interview didnt leave me feeling like our QB situation has been resolved. you've seen the perhaps? trust the Process 32 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: What are the chances you get a premium player at those picks again? Is Mccarron starting ? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 57 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: What are the chances you get a premium player at those picks again? Better than the chances of getting a franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Ok. Go look up Garoppolo’s stats with NEvand with SF. Then look up McCarron’s in 2015. Convince yourself. Explain to us why they are just as good. When they were backups, you are saying that Garrapolo's numbers were a whole lot better than McCarron's? Really? Yes, SF. In NE? NFW. Both completed a high percentage of passes. McCarron threw 2 picks, Garrapolo none. Numbers weren't that much different. I'm not saying they are equivilant players now. But you don't just get to make up numbers when they were backups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 16 hours ago, Doc said: Better than the chances of getting a franchise QB. Really you Might want to relook the hit statistics or just going to keep blindly saying false statements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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