Yeezus Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Can't think of many others that are projected this high in the draft with the skillset he has. he is literally being hyped solely based on his physical attributes. Height, weight, big hands. All factors that are virtually irrelevant when it comes to QB's translating into the NFL. Yet GM's are putting this guy infront of actual talents like Mayfield, Rosen, and Jackson, guys who have shown they have far more talent than Allen, but lack the physical size. It's a joke. Josh Allen has the skill set of a 5th round QB, the fact that he is being compared to Wentz is hysterical. He is one of the most inaccurate QB's in the ENTIRE DRAFT. I can't even imagine wasting all of our hard work to take a guy who is a glorified JP Loseman. Lets throw away real skills like reading defenses, accuracy, footwork, QB vision. Allen is not good at any of these things, but he has 10 inch hands so let's put the franchise on his back. Every year there is always 1 team who gets suckered into these type of QB's, drafts them far too high, and wonders why they are looking for another QB in 2-3 years bc the guy they drafted has thrown more picks than TD's and still can't read an NFL defense. Please don't let the Bills become this team. 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 (edited) You are so wrong. He will end up as the best QB from this draft. Edited March 14, 2018 by Thurmanator 12074 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Yeezus said: Every year there is always 1 team who gets suckered into these type of QB's, drafts them far too high, and wonders why they are looking for another QB in 2-3 years bc the guy they drafted has thrown more picks than TD's and still can't read an NFL defense. Please don't let the Bills become this team. 2 In 2016, Yeezus (the OP) stated this same thing about Wentz and Goff lol. Said the bills would be a joke to move up and take either of them and neither are worth a top 5 pick. A solid quote "The bills do not need to be trading their future to pick top 3 in this draft. NO QB in this draft is worth a top 5 pick. They are all projects and hyped up b/c the QB class is mediocre at best. There is no Winston or Mariota in this draft." and See: It seems you do this every year haha Edited March 14, 2018 by Crayola64 6 9 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 We all know that gaudy college stats are what matter. Those guys always kill it in the NFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted March 14, 2018 Author Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Thurmanator 12074 said: You are so wrong. He will end up as the best QB from this draft. yup. did you see him at the senior bowl? He looked like the event was too big for him. but he can throw bombs in shorts, thats what we should look at. this board has become delusional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Stats mean nothing. Skill is everything. Josh Allen has the most skill and arm talent. Put him with good players. Your getting a Big Ben on steroids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Just now, Yeezus said: yup. did you see him at the senior bowl? He looked like the event was too big for him. but he can throw bombs in shorts, thats what we should look at. this board has become delusional. Can you post to when you were actually right about a QB? You seem to be wrong every time somehow 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Yeezus said: yup. did you see him at the senior bowl? He looked like the event was too big for him. but he can throw bombs in shorts, thats what we should look at. this board has become delusional. Did you even watch the senior bowl. If you did that’s not what I saw or the scouts saw. you have no idea what your talking about. Edited March 14, 2018 by Thurmanator 12074 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Gugny said: We all know that gaudy college stats are what matter. Those guys always kill it in the NFL. He prob wasn't even trying last yr bc he knew it was only college and nothing really even matters until you get the the NFL Besides, if he got hurt in college then it might screw up his NFL career so he prob was just taking it easy so he didn't get injured.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Scouts minds were changed to the better because of how well he played in the senior bowl. Get your facts straight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, Crayola64 said: In 2016, Yeezus (the OP) stated this same thing about Wentz and Goff lol. Said the bills would be a joke to move up and take either of them and neither are worth a top 5 pick. A solid quote "The bills do not need to be trading their future to pick top 3 in this draft. NO QB in this draft is worth a top 5 pick. They are all projects and hyped up b/c the QB class is mediocre at best. There is no Winston or Mariota in this draft." and See: It seems you do this every year haha I guess that means we should take Allen. I was on the fence before. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted March 14, 2018 Author Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Thurmanator 12074 said: Scouts minds were changed to the better because of how well he played in the senior bowl. Get your facts straight no lmaoo it was after the combine. he was trash at the senior bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 There is a reason some scouts and draft pundits have him going number 1 or 2 overall. Man get a grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaphappy Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Where did the inaccurate label come from? That would be the only turn off for me. Does he have accuracy issues or no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Just now, Yeezus said: no lmaoo it was after the combine. he was trash at the senior bowl You are wrong. that’s not correct at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Line him up and have him throw the ball at a target 20 times. Ask all others. He will lose badly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 well you nay sayers better get ready because he will be the next Bills qb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 It concerns me greatly that I may agree with the OP. I think it's time to go to bed. I’ll trust our FO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 (edited) ok lookie here, lots of reviews by many people in this article https://www.google.com/amp/trib.com/sports/college/wyoming/football/wyoming-s-josh-allen-helps-himself-at-senior-bowl-though/article_3ff60ef7-2ce9-5833-beea-07951b05c08c.amp.html Edited March 14, 2018 by Thurmanator 12074 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 If he busts the front office guys get fired quick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, Yeezus said: yup. did you see him at the senior bowl? He looked like the event was too big for him. but he can throw bombs in shorts, thats what we should look at. this board has become delusional. Trent Edwards was the same and look what we got out of him. No thanks on Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 It will take 32 starts for us to know that. So it will not happen until 3 years from now. 1 year of sitting 2 years as a starter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, aristocrat said: If he busts the front office guys get fired quick If they move up just to draft him the scouts should be fired before the season even starts. Got to be blind to think Allen will do anything in this league in the 1st 2 years. What a waste to use all that draft capital for a player sitting a few seasons. Edited March 14, 2018 by xRUSHx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, xRUSHx said: Trent Edwards was the same and look what we got out of him. No thanks on Allen Your joking right Mr.check down please that’s like comparing Jim Kelly to Doug flute. Mr Allen has most air yards completions of any QB in this draft. it’s not even close. Edited March 14, 2018 by Thurmanator 12074 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Not saying I want him but he is legit as a first round prospect IMO. His game has little consistency to it right now and he obviously needs work but he is capable of executing properly and when he does the result is genuinely jaw dropping. He flashed in his Bowl game and when he came back out a second time in the senior bowl game. Thing is you just want to see it more often. I dont think its fair or accurate to compare him to Jamarcus. JR had bad intangibles, and that was ultimately his downfall. If Allen doesnt make it, it wont be because he is lazy or lacks the will to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Just now, Thurmanator 12074 said: Your joking right Mr.check down please that’s like comparing Jim Kelly to Doug flute. Mr Allen has most air yards completions of any QB in this draft. it’s not even close. Looks great in shorts just like Trent Edwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Just now, xRUSHx said: Looks great in shorts just like Trent Edwards So are you going to quit being a Bills fan when they draft him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Thurmanator 12074 said: So are you going to quit being a Bills fan when they draft him. No I will just be upset that our scouts failed so bad at picking a QB out of the 6 in this class we could get by picking the most not ready inaccurate Allen. Edited March 14, 2018 by xRUSHx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 (edited) There is not one QB in this draft that can do what this guy can do. He is the next Big Ben with a better arm but he also is mobile. He is a dream QB. The Bills will rue the day they pass on this guy. lets learn why, this guy jumps off the screen Edited March 14, 2018 by Thurmanator 12074 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 18 minutes ago, slaphappy said: Where did the inaccurate label come from? That would be the only turn off for me. Does he have accuracy issues or no? It comes from watching his alarmingly bad decision making and throws when he was in the unique and unimportant situation of...wearing pads against a (always weak, in that conference) defense in real actual football games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Allen has never completed 60 percent of his passes in college and, in fact, his career completion percentage is only 56.1. At this point in his college career, Allen has played with inconsistent mechanics, leading to bad throw trajectories. He needs a bunch of work before he is NFL ready. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 24 minutes ago, slaphappy said: Where did the inaccurate label come from? That would be the only turn off for me. Does he have accuracy issues or no? Yes. I wouldn’t touch him before the 3rd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills11 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Uhmm Josh Allen is a legitimate first round prospect..he had accuracy issues related to footwork ..his mobility is borderline elite .his arm is all time elite ..and he possesses the intaligibles you look for. Now does that mean he'll be a star ..no but this isn't a ej Manuel situation where he had no business going in the first based on his intangibles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 31 minutes ago, Thurmanator 12074 said: Stats mean nothing. Skill is everything. Josh Allen has the most skill and arm talent. Put him with good players. Your getting a Big Ben on steroids We don't have skill position players other than shady 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 you do know that Jim Kelly career completion percentage for his entire career is 60.1, he’s in the Hall of Fame. This kid has John Elway arm and mobility. Did you even watch the video I posted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 40 minutes ago, Yeezus said: Can't think of many others that are projected this high in the draft with the skillset he has. he is literally being hyped solely based on his physical attributes. Height, weight, big hands. All factors that are virtually irrelevant when it comes to QB's translating into the NFL. Yet GM's are putting this guy infront of actual talents like Mayfield, Rosen, and Jackson, guys who have shown they have far more talent than Allen, but lack the physical size. It's a joke. Josh Allen has the skill set of a 5th round QB, the fact that he is being compared to Wentz is hysterical. He is one of the most inaccurate QB's in the ENTIRE DRAFT. I can't even imagine wasting all of our hard work to take a guy who is a glorified JP Loseman. Lets throw away real skills like reading defenses, accuracy, footwork, QB vision. Allen is not good at any of these things, but he has 10 inch hands so let's put the franchise on his back. Every year there is always 1 team who gets suckered into these type of QB's, drafts them far too high, and wonders why they are looking for another QB in 2-3 years bc the guy they drafted has thrown more picks than TD's and still can't read an NFL defense. Please don't let the Bills become this team. You are spot on. He has terrible accuracy at WYOMING. He has played terribly against Power 5 teams. And anytime someone says, "His big arm would be great in Buffalo" I want to throw something. You know who else has strong arms: Mayfield (gets windy in Oklahoma), Rosen, L. Jackson, and Darnold. Take one of them. I'd take L. Falk or Mike White over J. Allen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2763953-simms-spotlight-lamar-jackson-is-no1-qb-in-2018-draft 12 minutes ago, Thurmanator 12074 said: There is not one QB in this draft that can do what this guy can do. He is the next Big Ben with a better arm but he also is mobile. He is a dream QB. The Bills will rue the day they pass on this guy. lets learn why, this guy jumps off the screen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 You guys are all going to be eating crowe after the Bills draft him. Then what are you going to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Just now, Thurmanator 12074 said: You guys are all going to be eating crowe after the Bills draft him. Then what are you going to do. If we draft him I'll want him to succeed, but this great QB threw a whopping ZERO TD's against Power 5 teams last year. Mike White will be a better NFL QB. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 He played on a terrible team. Put him with talent and he will shine. Also give him some protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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