Chicken Boo Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: The thing about Cousins is this: if you watch a few Redskins games and really focus on his individual play and talent set, it's just not that great or impressive. He is not "bad" and a definite upgrade over Tyrod, but he is nothing particularly special. Give him a legit run game and watch him work. All that Kirk has accomplished so far in his career has been without any semblance of a running game. It's been all on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 2 hours ago, PolishDave said: Like "Pickle Surprise?" Don't Google it. You can't unwatch that. best damn internet video ever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 2 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: 20+17+14 = 51 to be accurate in case of a typo Sorry you're right, guess I was more focused in it be 30 less than Cousins had the last three seasons. TT does have 51 in three seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 2 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: I think the primary folks who view Taylor as a longshot starter in 2018 for the Bills are the national media who doesn't really focus on or care much about the Bills and a faction of fans on places like this message board who have generally disdained Taylor for the bulk of his tenure in Buffalo. We might cut him, but even the national reporters like Rappaport are catching onto the fact that even that is rather unlikely. We might trade him, if we can. We might go after Cousins, but at his price tag, I just kind of doubt it. I'm 99.9% sure we're drafting a QB in the first round to replace him and eager to see who that might be (Please GOD don't let it be Josh Allen!!!), but good GOD, can you just imagine the uproar here the night of Thursday, April 26th if the 1st round ends and in the 1st round the Bills didn't trade up and, instead, spent their 2 1st round picks on a DL and OL!!! I don't think the Bills pissing away another chance to get a franchise QB is all that funny. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Didn't cousins OC become HC in SF not LA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Surprise QB Drew Brees. Payton is in love with his replacement Mayfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 24 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: I don't think the Bills pissing away another chance to get a franchise QB is all that funny. You've been awfully serious as of late. The reactions on this message board will be absolutely hilarious if that's what happens. I wouldn't be surprised if SDS just shuts the board down until the start of the 2nd round the next day for fear of having to ban most of the posters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 44 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: Didn't cousins OC become HC in SF not LA? Shanahan was OC in ATL. He was OC in Washington too, but not when Cousins was starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Who is saying TT didn’t have his best season in 2015? 1 hour ago, The Jokeman said: Sorry you're right, guess I was more focused in it be 30 less than Cousins had the last three seasons. TT does have 51 in three seasons. Shhhh just don’t tell anyone that I defended Tyrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) Shocking stat of the day. Rushing TDs the last 3 years: Taylor - 14 Cousins - 13 Surprised to see Cousins with that many. Edited February 16, 2018 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2018/02/16/fan-friday-2-16/ 1 – Hi Chris, Many thanks for all the updates and info this past season. With all the focus on the upcoming draft is there any chance the Bills look to keep Tyrod with a new OC whose scheme may better fit Tyrod’s skill set? Then look to fill holes with all the draft picks they have acquired and/or hope one of the non-top 5 QB’s are still there at 21/22? I realize it is early in the process as GM Beane noted and a lot could change. Thank you. Bryon Plattsburgh, NY CB: You’re right that a lot can change between now and the week after the NFL draft. That being said, I think there is a real possibility that Tyrod Taylor remains the starter. There is a lot of uncertainty regarding the quarterback position in terms of what could be available in free agency and who is affordable in a way that doesn’t cripple a team’s cap situation. As for new offensive coordinator Brian Daboll, he certainly comes in with very recent experience working with a mobile quarterback in Alabama’s Jalen Hurts. I’m sure there will be a lot of conversations among the offensive staff this offseason as to what, and with whom, their best approach would be to move the offense forward. The passing game was frankly substandard last season. Can Daboll help to improve it with Taylor in the lineup? That’s the big question. The next question is what other quarterback talent can the Bills realistically acquire in terms of price tag and/or draft capital. There may not be defined answers on the draft capital question until a week or two before the draft. And with more demand than supply concerning free agent QBs, the price to acquire one is going up and some teams are likely going to overpay. I get the sense that Bills GM Brandon Beane isn’t big on overpaying, even at QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 8 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: So here's a little story about a day 3 draft pick at QB. He sat for a few years and finally got an opportunity to come into the season as his team's starter in 2015. He put together solid seasons in 2015 and 2016, but 2017 was his worst year by nearly any statistical measure. 2017 wasn't entirely his fault, though. It was his first year with a new OC because his previous OC was hired to be the HC in LA. His top 2 WRs from 2015 and 2016 were no longer with the team in 2017, and OL injuries were an issue throughout the year. In addition to all that, his favorite target (his TE) was also injured for a portion of the year. This QB was also a contributor on the ground, ranking top 3 in rushing TDs by QBs from 2015-2017. His team made the playoffs once in his 3 years as a starter, and despite consistently below average defensive performance over the 3 years, the team has a record above .500 when he starts. Now that 2017 is over, many of the local fans criticize him because they do not believe he is capable of elevating the team around him and they question why the national media ever speaks highly of him. It is pretty clear that the team also intends to move on from him prior to the 2018 season. Who's that QB? Sounds like a real bum who needs to go to another team so other fans can see how he underperforms in big games! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Fadingpain said: The thing about Cousins is this: if you watch a few Redskins games and really focus on his individual play and talent set, it's just not that great or impressive. He is not "bad" and a definite upgrade over Tyrod, but he is nothing particularly special. Well, I just watched a few Redskins games on Youtube. I was really focused (as best I could from televised film) on Cousins footwork, progressions, ability to throw the receiver open and to put the ball accurately into tight coverage, as well as his ability to slide about in the pocket and make yards with his feet, and I was 100% sold. That may not be Drew Brees or Aaron Rodgers, but that's a d*mn good QB and if we could sign him, I'd take him in a minute. 1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said: http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2018/02/16/fan-friday-2-16/ 1 – Hi Chris, Many thanks for all the updates and info this past season. With all the focus on the upcoming draft is there any chance the Bills look to keep Tyrod with a new OC whose scheme may better fit Tyrod’s skill set? Then look to fill holes with all the draft picks they have acquired and/or hope one of the non-top 5 QB’s are still there at 21/22? I realize it is early in the process as GM Beane noted and a lot could change. Thank you. Bryon Plattsburgh, NY CB: You’re right that a lot can change between now and the week after the NFL draft. That being said, I think there is a real possibility that Tyrod Taylor remains the starter. There is a lot of uncertainty regarding the quarterback position in terms of what could be available in free agency and who is affordable in a way that doesn’t cripple a team’s cap situation. As for new offensive coordinator Brian Daboll, he certainly comes in with very recent experience working with a mobile quarterback in Alabama’s Jalen Hurts. I’m sure there will be a lot of conversations among the offensive staff this offseason as to what, and with whom, their best approach would be to move the offense forward. The passing game was frankly substandard last season. Can Daboll help to improve it with Taylor in the lineup? That’s the big question. The next question is what other quarterback talent can the Bills realistically acquire in terms of price tag and/or draft capital. There may not be defined answers on the draft capital question until a week or two before the draft. And with more demand than supply concerning free agent QBs, the price to acquire one is going up and some teams are likely going to overpay. I get the sense that Bills GM Brandon Beane isn’t big on overpaying, even at QB. Welp, then. I guess my dreams of Cousins will go unfulfilled. However, I think a lot of the people who like to get an exaggerated Dis on Taylor, also like to Dis on Cousins. So there will still be plenty of disappointed folks about if Taylor stays. Edited February 17, 2018 by Hapless Bills Fan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said: http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2018/02/16/fan-friday-2-16/ 1 – Hi Chris, Many thanks for all the updates and info this past season. With all the focus on the upcoming draft is there any chance the Bills look to keep Tyrod with a new OC whose scheme may better fit Tyrod’s skill set? Then look to fill holes with all the draft picks they have acquired and/or hope one of the non-top 5 QB’s are still there at 21/22? I realize it is early in the process as GM Beane noted and a lot could change. Thank you. Bryon Plattsburgh, NY CB: You’re right that a lot can change between now and the week after the NFL draft. That being said, I think there is a real possibility that Tyrod Taylor remains the starter. There is a lot of uncertainty regarding the quarterback position in terms of what could be available in free agency and who is affordable in a way that doesn’t cripple a team’s cap situation. As for new offensive coordinator Brian Daboll, he certainly comes in with very recent experience working with a mobile quarterback in Alabama’s Jalen Hurts. I’m sure there will be a lot of conversations among the offensive staff this offseason as to what, and with whom, their best approach would be to move the offense forward. The passing game was frankly substandard last season. Can Daboll help to improve it with Taylor in the lineup? That’s the big question. The next question is what other quarterback talent can the Bills realistically acquire in terms of price tag and/or draft capital. There may not be defined answers on the draft capital question until a week or two before the draft. And with more demand than supply concerning free agent QBs, the price to acquire one is going up and some teams are likely going to overpay. I get the sense that Bills GM Brandon Beane isn’t big on overpaying, even at QB. Chris: Brandon, is this an okay way to answer this fan question? Brandon: Excellent, Chris. You keep it up and maybe we can get a 6th or 7th for the guy Coach benched. Chris: Happy to help the cause. Brandon: Here's a Tim Horton's gift card. Enjoy buddy! (Editor's Note: Brandon = Beane not Russ) Edited February 17, 2018 by JoeF 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Well, I just watched a few Redskins games on Youtube. I was really focused (as best I could from televised film) on Cousins footwork, progressions, ability to throw the receiver open and to put the ball accurately into tight coverage, as well as his ability to slide about in the pocket and make yards with his feet, and I was 100% sold. That may not be Drew Brees or Aaron Rodgers, but that's a d*mn good QB and if we could sign him, I'd take him in a minute. Welp, then. I guess my dreams of Cousins will go unfulfilled. However, I think a lot of the people who like to get an exaggerated Dis on Taylor, also like to Dis on Cousins. So there will still be plenty of disappointed folks about if Taylor stays. I felt the same on Beane. but honestly , we have no idea about Beanes take on how many beans it takes to acquire Cousins and also how the beans at laid out. such as guaranteed beans and such. I think another question might really be about his character. But I suspect it's not him, it is Washington who yanked him a bit. I would feel him out in consideration. but keep in mind, he will likely reset the bar at QB salary. thats when i look back at Foles,,, or Harrington if they go FA for starter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Well, I just watched a few Redskins games on Youtube. I was really focused (as best I could from televised film) on Cousins footwork, progressions, ability to throw the receiver open and to put the ball accurately into tight coverage, as well as his ability to slide about in the pocket and make yards with his feet, and I was 100% sold. That may not be Drew Brees or Aaron Rodgers, but that's a d*mn good QB and if we could sign him, I'd take him in a minute. Welp, then. I guess my dreams of Cousins will go unfulfilled. However, I think a lot of the people who like to get an exaggerated Dis on Taylor, also like to Dis on Cousins. So there will still be plenty of disappointed folks about if Taylor stays. Make Kirk a fair long term deal and I think he would take a serious look at it. As for tp, he’s just trying to look for offsetting reports to the poll where nearly 80% don’t think he’ll be here. I hear the good and bad about Kirk every day here on DC radio. He’s still an improvement over TT. Edited February 17, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 4 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Shanahan was OC in ATL. He was OC in Washington too, but not when Cousins was starting. Whoops. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Welp, then. I guess my dreams of Cousins will go unfulfilled. However, I think a lot of the people who like to get an exaggerated Dis on Taylor, also like to Dis on Cousins. So there will still be plenty of disappointed folks about if Taylor stays. I'll be honest, the two most likely veteran QB options as far as guys McBean are actually planning on starting at QB and not just being a veteran mentor backup, I believe, are Taylor or Cousins, for almost opposite reasons. Cousins is the only QB that I can see Buffalo going after legitimately in the open market and paying a lot of money for. Why? Because he's the only QB in the open market who legitimately has a shot to be a franchise Quarterback for a team. If we acquire cousins, we're building the team with all of our draft and are obviously not going to spend first round pick on a QB. If we don't acquire Cousins, unless we are planning on trading the farm to go up and get "our guy," whether Rosen or Darnold or Mayfield (and even maybe if we do go up and get them we still keep him), then Taylor likely stays on what is really an ideal Bridge deal for a starting QB to let a rookie who needs time to learn the game ride the bench for one year. Think the Chiefs with Alex Smith last year but we won't need to search for a trade partner. McDermott is really close with Andy Reid... you can bet he paid attention to what he did with Smith/Mahomes and likely even talks to Reid about it. I really don't think any of the Vikings QBs, McCarron, Foles, etc are seriously being considered because I think OBD wants to nail this QB decision out of the park. That, at least in terms of immediate PR appearance, would solely be Kirk Cousins or a 1st round QB we ideally trade up for in order to demonstrate that he was truly "our guy." 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Make Kirk a fair long term deal and I think he would take a serious look at it. As for tp, he’s just trying to look for offsetting reports to the poll where nearly 80% don’t think he’ll be here. I hear the good and bad about Kirk every day here on DC radio. He’s still an improvement over TT. Weird... I thought you were ignoring me. Hey... remember when you said "there can't be more than a half dozen posters who think Taylor will be back next year"...? Man... you were waaaAAAAaaayyyyy off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 So 25 more days until the Bills can part ways with Tyrod Just over three weeks. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: So 25 more days until the Bills can part ways with Tyrod Just over three weeks. So only one more tyrod menstrual cycle to go? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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