papazoid Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 5 hours ago, Fadingpain said: I heard Dunkirk Don was in attendance along with his agent, a few lawyers, his press girl, and a few other handlers. Possibly related to the new stadium. 5 hours ago, Augie said: East of town. Connect the dots. all a diversionary tactic while DD and Pegula were closing on several deals in and around the cobblestone district I saw on the internet DD is a millionaire ....many times over presser at walleye willies follow the money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 15 hours ago, Chuck Wagon said: I would not be shocked to see one of Allen / Jackson still on the board. If we traded Tyrod and/or a LATE pick for Kizer and one of Allen or Jackson are still on the board at 21, I would not mind an open competition between the rookie / Kizer / Peterman in camp. That would leave no one with any experience (meaningful) to win such a competition. You have to have a vet in there, I think. Otherwise, what are they going to judge them on in an offseason competition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said: He's being rude. He's a lame. I see. Well that's all clear now. 6 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: Damn, I forgot that asterisk: "Anyone but Tyrod"* *except, of course, any current Browns QB. Actually, I'm interested in Cody Kessler*. He may have been ruined by now, of course. *not as a potential starter Edited February 6, 2018 by Hapless Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 6, 2018 Author Share Posted February 6, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, sfladave said: Actually Brian Kelly said he should have waited another year before declaring and Kizer himself said that Kelly was right, he should have stayed for another year just before the draft or combine, I can't remember exactly. Brian Kelly said he should stay another year before he declared. After he declared, he said he was the best QB in the draft. But when I say he’s partly to blame, I’m referring to his failed attempt to run a 2-QB system in 2016 with Malik Zaire. Sure he maybe thought that gave them the best chance to win, I don’t follow Nd close enough. If that’s the case then that’s his job. But it didn’t do Kizer any favors in his development toward being NFL ready - which again I recognize is not Brian Kelly’s job. That doesn’t change the circumstance though of the impact it had on Kizer and most certainly influenced his decision not to return. Edited February 6, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmuggs Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 10 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said: He's being rude. He's a lame. Lol. So True. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Brian Kelly said he should stay another year before he declared. After he declared, he said he was the best QB in the draft. But when I say he’s partly to blame, I’m referring to his failed attempt to run a 2-QB system in 2016 with Malik Zaire. Sure he maybe thought that gave them the best chance to win, I don’t follow Nd close enough. If that’s the case then that’s his job. But it didn’t do Kizer any favors in his development toward being NFL ready - which again I recognize is not Brian Kelly’s job. That doesn’t change the circumstance though of the impact it had on Kizer and most certainly influenced his decision not to return. Zaire was the team leader and Kizer left much to be desired in that aspect. It was clear in spring ball that Kizer was a better QB but Zaire had team support. You're right though, they should have just stuck with Kizer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 6, 2018 Author Share Posted February 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: Zaire was the team leader and Kizer left much to be desired in that aspect. It was clear in spring ball that Kizer was a better QB but Zaire had team support. You're right though, they should have just stuck with Kizer. I do remember that leadership narrative with Zaire/Kizer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: That would leave no one with any experience (meaningful) to win such a competition. You have to have a vet in there, I think. Otherwise, what are they going to judge them on in an offseason competition? Doesn't matter, Peterman wins the competition before it even begins. He doesn't need experience or veteran guidance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 I'm not down on Kizer as much as others here. He should have never had to start a single game this past season, but he did, for a terrible team, took a beating and still kept chugging along. He still has his entire career in front of him. A QB's rookie season, starting for the Browns shouldnt define him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 On 2/5/2018 at 10:37 AM, BuffaloHokie13 said: I get it! Kizer is there on business because he's buying up property east of Buffalo! Or he's opening up a new wheat flakes plant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: Or he's opening up a new wheat flakes plant. Did he accidentally burn them or something? I guess he could make use of some of the old silos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Maybe they meant Kizer Sose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 hour ago, apuszczalowski said: Doesn't matter, Peterman wins the competition before it even begins. He doesn't need experience or veteran guidance. he can certainly spot the opposing DB's with no outside guidance.... 1 hour ago, Chicken Boo said: I'm not down on Kizer as much as others here. Couch McKown Frye Quinn Weedon Manziel A QB's rookie season, starting for the Browns shouldnt define him. Sure thing pal.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Kelly the Dog said: Maybe they meant Kizer Sose. I love that someone labeled this Kizer as "Kizer Soso". It cracked me up a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, The Dean said: I love that someone labeled this Kizer as "Kizer Soso". It cracked me up a bit. That is pretty fantastic, actually. My vote is Kizer "no no". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Luxy312 said: That is pretty fantastic, actually. My vote is Kizer "no no". Kizer Quinn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: he can certainly spot the opposing DB's with no outside guidance.... Sure thing pal.... I'm not your pal, friend. As if there aren't a slew of variables that contributed to the previous QBs failures, having nothing to do with the QBs themselves. It's Cleveland, ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: I'm not your pal, friend. As if there aren't a slew of variables that contributed to the previous QBs failures, having nothing to do with the QBs themselves. It's Cleveland, ffs. They were all bad drafts, throughout 2 decades. So you would actually have said the same thing for all of the other QBs I listed after their rookie seasons with the Browns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 43 minutes ago, The Dean said: I love that someone labeled this Kizer as "Kizer Soso". It cracked me up a bit. I stole Kizer Soso from Mike Lombardi of the ringer NFL show (ex browns gm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: They were all bad drafts, throughout 2 decades. So you would actually have said the same thing for all of the other QBs I listed after their rookie seasons with the Browns? I see potential with Kizer. Like most QBs, he needs a better team around him. He may indeed suck, but I can't make that decision, given his current supporting cast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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