ALF Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 I would be ok with Lamar at #12 if the Bills can't trade up further. If only this mock were right https://www.drafttek.com/2018-NFL-Draft-Prospect-Rankings/Top-QBs.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Sky Diver said: TT made so many big passing plays he’s now with Cleveland. Comparing him to Russell Wilson is laughable. Glad we have a new pocket passer in the fold. You missed the point of course and of course had to make a reference to AJM. Just go ahead and change your name to Savior McCarron. Maybe the Bills will get a long term starting caliber QB in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 46 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: Staring down primary receivers, getting all scrambly when the pocket breaks down, and benefitting tremendously from poor DB play that likes of which doesn't exist in the NFL... These "highlights" show an athletic QB doing lots of crap you can get away with at the college level. No thanks. Which describes probably 99% of college QBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: You missed the point of course and of course had to make a reference to AJM. Just go ahead and change your name to Savior McCarron. Maybe the Bills will get a long term starting caliber QB in the draft. The fact that you compare TT to Russell Wilson tells me everything I need to know about your ability to assess QB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: The fact that you compare TT to Russell Wilson tells me everything I need to know about your ability to assess QB's. I compared their style not the caliber of player. Must be too complex for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) 38 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I compared their style not the caliber of player. Must be too complex for you. I lived in WI when Wilson played at Madison and am pretty familiar with him. I don't think their styles compare at all. Edited March 20, 2018 by Sky Diver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: I lived in WI when Wilson played at Madison and am pretty familiar with him. I don't think their styles compare at all. It doesn't matter where you live, there is plenty of NFL game film to show how Wilson creates out of structure plays on a fairly regular basis often because of OL deficiencies of the Seahawks. No one is talking about or referring to what he did in College and on this matter you are off base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 I watched Wilson play live for Madison when I lived in WI and I have watched him in the NFL. Who cares how they compare anyway, Neither one plays for Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Sky Diver said: I watched Wilson play live for Madison when I lived in WI and I have watched him in the NFL. Who cares how they compare anyway, Neither one plays for Buffalo. My post that included him wasn't directed at you, but somehow you felt the need to respond to it and now you post this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 TT is gone. Time to move on and support our new starting QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Just now, Sky Diver said: TT is gone. Time to move on and support our new starting QB. Rosen perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalover4life Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 5 hours ago, Fadingpain said: Staring down primary receivers, getting all scrambly when the pocket breaks down, and benefitting tremendously from poor DB play that likes of which doesn't exist in the NFL... These "highlights" show an athletic QB doing lots of crap you can get away with at the college level. No thanks. Getting all scrambly? yeah, he should just not use his gift and take the sack. Also, when you get "scrambly" DBs have a hard time with coverage and your likely not on your first read. He does have the speed and acceleration to get away with a lot of this in the pros, because the college athletes didn't come close to shutting him down. Lamar is likely one of the best athletes, if not THE BEST athlete to ever play the position. No one ever called him the best pocket passer, but the guy is a playmaker and is at the front of the conversation for highest ceiling of any QB in the draft. Also a guy who could use his skills to make a splash early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kirby Jackson Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Ha ha, I just saw this and came here to post it. It’s kind of interesting. It certainly flies in the face of “one look and takes off.” I didn’t know this before seeing the tweet. I’d be interested to see how many plays were scramble plays? Basically, what percentage of his drop backs result in a run? Edited March 21, 2018 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) On 3/19/2018 at 10:38 PM, BullBuchanan said: People in NFL circles have been talking to us about "dual-threat" for decades, yet how many of them amounted to anything? Steve young is probably the best example in modern history, and won a single Super Bowl against a San Diego team that was one of the all-time worst to make it to the show. For the electrifying player Cunningham was, it never translated into postseason success. Vick never won a thing. If Cam ever wins anything it won't be by using his legs. I want my QB to be about as athletic as Aaron Rodgers. I'd MUCH rather have a guy that sidesteps a rush like Rogers, Ben, Brady than a guy who takes off running like Taylor and Jackson at the first hint of pressure. It's a recipe for knee injuries, fumbles, and an inability to make the big play with your arm and brain. 20 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: For the record, neither Taylor nor Jackson do what you allege. You are simply incorrect on on both players who often escape pressure but keep their eyes downfield to make big passing plays outside of the structure of the offense just as Russell Wilson similarly does. Posted this earlier in response to someone else. 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Ha ha, I just saw this and came here to post it. It’s kind of interesting. It certainly flies in the face of “one look and takes off.” I didn’t know this before seeing the tweet. I’d be interested to see how many plays were scramble plays? Basically, what percentage of his drop backs result in a run. Anyone who has watched his games knows better. Edited March 21, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Posted this earlier in response to someone else. Anyone who has watched his games knows better. I’ll admit that it is less than I thought. I would have thought that it was closer to half of his yards. He’s so explosive with the ball in his hands. There will be some LONG runs at the next level too. When Lamar has space, look out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: I’ll admit that it is less than I thought. I would have thought that it was closer to half of his yards. He’s so explosive with the ball in his hands. There will be some LONG runs at the next level too. When Lamar has space, look out. He is all of that, but I think he needs to sit to begin his NFL career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 On 2/1/2018 at 2:52 PM, DCOrange said: No effing chance that Lamar runs a 4.78. Last I read 4.43 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneblitz Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Obviously we aren't (and shouldn't) even considering Jackson if we're trying to trade up to number 2, this guys a athlete more than a NFL QB and we've had way way too many of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 19 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Ha ha, I just saw this and came here to post it. It’s kind of interesting. It certainly flies in the face of “one look and takes off.” I didn’t know this before seeing the tweet. I’d be interested to see how many plays were scramble plays? Basically, what percentage of his drop backs result in a run? 9 hours ago, greeneblitz said: Obviously we aren't (and shouldn't) even considering Jackson if we're trying to trade up to number 2, this guys a athlete more than a NFL QB and we've had way way too many of those. Sam Darnold had more turnovers than ANY of the prospects, yet he's still ranked #1? 19 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Facts doesn't matter!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 The case to build an NFL offense around Lamar Jackson | NFL Draft news and analysis | Pro Football FocusLet’s open up this Lamar Jackson debate.There are varying opinions when it comes to Jackson’s skillset, from top quarterback in the class to necessary wide receiver conversion. Of course, the truth is likely somewhere in the middle where Jackson’s limitations must be acknowledged, as does his incredible playmaking ability.The key for Jackson at the next level will be his future offensive coordinator’s ability to tap into his playmaking while understanding and mitigating his limitations. The same can be said for any player, but it’s even more vital for Jackson who must use his athleticism at the quarterback position, something many teams are reluctant to rely upon with their franchise signal caller.Let’s take a look at some of the positives and negatives when it comes to Jackson’s game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: The case to build an NFL offense around Lamar Jackson | NFL Draft news and analysis | Pro Football FocusLet’s open up this Lamar Jackson debate.There are varying opinions when it comes to Jackson’s skillset, from top quarterback in the class to necessary wide receiver conversion. Of course, the truth is likely somewhere in the middle where Jackson’s limitations must be acknowledged, as does his incredible playmaking ability.The key for Jackson at the next level will be his future offensive coordinator’s ability to tap into his playmaking while understanding and mitigating his limitations. The same can be said for any player, but it’s even more vital for Jackson who must use his athleticism at the quarterback position, something many teams are reluctant to rely upon with their franchise signal caller.Let’s take a look at some of the positives and negatives when it comes to Jackson’s game. Okay you sold me, let's trade up to #1 now...Browns can have this guy at 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I would be ok with Lamar if the Bills can't trade up. At 6'3 he might have more potential , but would need to sit a year or 2. He seems to have the determination to work hard not willing to settle for WR with his speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Why not? Should start a new thread saying we should trade for Watson.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: Should start a new thread saying we should trade for Watson.... Don't we already have enough chaos? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Why not? That's really weird. If I was a Texans can this would make me more concerned about Watson's knee but maybe they're just doing their due diligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Just now, HappyDays said: That's really weird. If I was a Texans can this would make me more concerned about Watson's knee but maybe they're just doing their due diligence. Watson is progressing well in his rehab, but why not work Jackson out in case he slips out of the 1st round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Don't we already have enough chaos? But, but just hear me out....it's kinda long though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Solomon Grundy Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 3 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Watson is progressing well in his rehab, but why not work Jackson out in case he slips out of the 1st round. Pat Kirwan just stated, with certainty, that ONE team has Jackson as their #2 QB on their board. Hmmm.... Remember the rumors after the combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 minute ago, the skycap said: Pat Kirwan just stated, with certainty, that ONE team has Jackson as their #2 QB on their board. Hmmm.... Remember the rumors after the combine. I actually forgot that the Texans also have no 2nd round pick because they traded it to the Browns to eat the Osweiler contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, the skycap said: Pat Kirwan just stated, with certainty, that ONE team has Jackson as their #2 QB on their board. Hmmm.... Remember the rumors after the combine. I don't think Jackson fits what the Bills look for in a QB so I doubt it's us but you never know. He ran the EVP system in college which is what Daboll runs so there is a possible connection. I wonder how much input Daboll will have on our pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I don't think Jackson fits what the Bills look for in a QB so I doubt it's us but you never know. He ran the EVP system in college which is what Daboll runs so there is a possible connection. I wonder how much input Daboll will have on our pick. I am guessing he will have an awful lot of input that will carry very little weight. Just my opinion. McDermott is going to decided because his future is on the line and he is the boss. "Head process guy". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phils n Bills Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 On 2/1/2018 at 3:19 PM, #34fan said: Okay, fine.... I'll support taking Lamar Jackson in the first round... - IF Bobby Petrino comes with him as part of the deal... Petrino is a truly special offensive mind, that can coach, and coordinate with the best of them... He's on my Short-list of HC candidates once the inevitable happens to McDermott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 https://sports.yahoo.com/m/1cbae177-3c41-3fe3-bb3e-884058e9112d/ss_deshaun-watson-says-one-qb-in.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 5 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: Should start a new thread saying we should trade for Watson.... Please don’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Please don’t. It was a joke... I do however, understand the concern! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 5 hours ago, HappyDays said: That's really weird. If I was a Texans can this would make me more concerned about Watson's knee but maybe they're just doing their due diligence. Sad that Watson already has a knee issue. Jackson's legs are skrony I would imagine he will end in the same fate as RG3, broken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly101 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 On 2/10/2018 at 1:11 PM, joesixpack said: Just say no to QBs who default to their legs. No thanks. I just dont understand why everyone doesnt want a pure passing qb... its a passing league now...rb's are practically an after thought now, and it seems any rb succeeds with a solid passing game... Just not going to beat Philadelphia or NE with a run first game hoping the defense carries you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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