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1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said:

I think he should get a chance too.  But, I think this should also speak volumes to the people who think he is a 1st Round Prospect at quarterback. 

 

He is irrespective of your dissenting opinion. 

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22 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

He is irrespective of your dissenting opinion. 

 

Technically we wont know if he is or isnt a 1st round pick until April 26th.  You dont know and I dont know, just different opinions.  But I think working someone out at a position they have never played, in favor of a position they have played their entire career says a lot about how a team views that player.

 

I dont imagine teams will be working out Minkah Fitzaptrick at quaterback just to get a feel, but again just my opinion. 

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I want him at 21...or Rosen in a trade up.....I would be absolutely be ok playing Tyrod for another year while Lamar learns the NFL.....this guy (imo) is Michael Vick in a bigger frame and more accurate. Vick went number 1. I know the NFL is different today but my god this talent is hard to overlook. The whole WR stuff is nonsense.

https://mobile.twitter.com/QBKlass/status/906775200649195520/photo/1

 

this is a perfect example of how Lamar is nothing like Tyrod....10 out of 10 times tyrod swings it to the rb....lamar takes the strike over the middle

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On 2/1/2018 at 1:49 PM, Spiderweb said:

OMG... Avoid this possibility at all costs. After watching him the past two years ( I live in the Louisville area) we would be making yet another big mistake. He'll bring some running ability but he's slower than Taylor. Has a published college time of 4.78. He's not like Taylor in one area though, he has no problem turning the ball over. Tebow / Andre Ware II.

 

As a Jr. Taylor threw 13 TD and 5 INT, which is a 2.6 ratio. 

As a Jr. Jackson threw 27 TD and 10 INT, which is almost the same 2.7 ratio, except that Jackson threw more than twice as many TD and had 60% more passing yards.

Comparing Jackson to Taylor as a Sr. Taylor improved his TD/INT and threw 24 TD, closer to Jackson, while keeping his INT low.  Jackson still had 33% more passing yards.

 

College 40 time published from Louisville as 4.34 last year.

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/college/louisville/2017/03/09/lamar-jackson-runs-40-yard-dash/98930194/

 

Andre Ware was not at all the same type of QB.  He had negative rushing yards as a college QB and more "air raid" type passing yardage.  Tim Tebow also played in an offense well known as a 'run option' with half field reads, even I know  that.

 

I wouldn't want to dispute what you see, but the facts and comparisons you attach to it seem to be off which does make one question.


 

23 minutes ago, zevo said:

I want him at 21...or Rosen in a trade up.....I would be absolutely be ok playing Tyrod for another year while Lamar learns the NFL.....this guy (imo) is Michael Vick in a bigger frame and more accurate. Vick went number 1. I know the NFL is different today but my god this talent is hard to overlook. The whole WR stuff is nonsense.

https://mobile.twitter.com/QBKlass/status/906775200649195520/photo/1

 

this is a perfect example of how Lamar is nothing like Tyrod....10 out of 10 times tyrod swings it to the rb....lamar takes the strike over the middle

 

YES!  This is exactly the kind of throw that makes me agree with you.  Lamar knows perfectly well he could run right there.  Instead he steps up into the running lane, uses it as a passing lane, and leads the guy on the crossing route so that he gets the YAC and moves the chains.  I have seen Tyrod make good throws, but I can't ever remember Tyrod stepping up into that lane and making that throw.

 

Like Jackson, don't like Jackson...but he is NOT the same QB as Taylor, except that he's black and can run.

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24 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

 

So there you have it.

 

All Jackson needs is 1 team to draft him and give him a chance as a QB.  So since he says he can't catch, and since his dream is evidently to play QB, he should remember this when teams ask him to work out as a WR:  "No" is a complete sentence.

 

 

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People wanted Tyrod to be a receiver too. Maybe the bills should draft both Lamar Jackson, and another QB in the first round. Two chances to see which one is a franchise QB, and if Jackson isn't good enough to be our guy, he can play receiver. Every guy is different, maybe he would be ok with that.

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49 minutes ago, wagon127 said:

People wanted Tyrod to be a receiver too. Maybe the bills should draft both Lamar Jackson, and another QB in the first round. Two chances to see which one is a franchise QB, and if Jackson isn't good enough to be our guy, he can play receiver. Every guy is different, maybe he would be ok with that.

 

No.

 

Respect the man as a player.  He says he can't catch, and he wants to play QB.  Like him as a QB and draft him, or don't like him as a QB and pass.

 

Draft 1 QB in the high rounds and put enough resources (OL, WR, coaching, reps) to give him a fair shot.  If you want to take a late round flier on someone who falls, that's OK but if they haven't given up on Peterman he fills that role for now.

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I wouldn't mind him in the 2nd if still available and we missed out on the top # 3 QBs. However, my preference would be Kyle Lauletta in rounds 3-4. Jackson is going to need a full year in a NFL weight and conditioning program. He would get killed out there with his slight frame. Look at the beating Cam Newton takes but at least he weighs 250. Also, you are going to need a special offense catered to his strengths. If Lamar is the pick I see no reason why they shouldn't keep Tyrod as well for another year since he would be an ideal fit for the same type of offense.

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9 minutes ago, billieve420 said:

I wouldn't mind him in the 2nd if still available and we missed out on the top # 3 QBs. However, my preference would be Kyle Lauletta in rounds 3-4. Jackson is going to need a full year in a NFL weight and conditioning program. He would get killed out there with his slight frame. Look at the beating Cam Newton takes but at least he weighs 250. Also, you are going to need a special offense catered to his strengths. If Lamar is the pick I see no reason why they shouldn't keep Tyrod as well for another year since he would be an ideal fit for the same type of offense.

 

If the Bills want Jackson they better move on him in the 1st because I can't see him lasting until the 53rd pick.  Lauletta isn't impressive at all to me and needs quite a bit of work IMO based on a few games of watching him.  

 

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12 minutes ago, billieve420 said:

I wouldn't mind him in the 2nd if still available and we missed out on the top # 3 QBs. However, my preference would be Kyle Lauletta in rounds 3-4. Jackson is going to need a full year in a NFL weight and conditioning program. He would get killed out there with his slight frame. Look at the beating Cam Newton takes but at least he weighs 250. Also, you are going to need a special offense catered to his strengths. If Lamar is the pick I see no reason why they shouldn't keep Tyrod as well for another year since he would be an ideal fit for the same type of offense.

he is not going to be there in the 2nd

 

If they want him they better use one of their 1sts

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Jackson and Mayfield are two of the most intriguing qbs I can rememberin The draft.  They could be either stars or busts. I really don't see an in between with them.

 

that said, I don't trust the Bills in developing qbs so I would prefer a more polished guy. But LJ is very interesting. 

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When asked which teams he met with, the Buffalo Bills were the first team he mentioned. Jackson ran the Erhardt-Perkins offense at Louisville. That happens to be the same offense Bills offensive coordinator Brian Daboll is scholed in. Jackson is more than confident he can command that offense in the NFL, too.

 

"I'm mobile, I can hit any target on the field," Jackson said. "I love the game with a passion. I lead my team. I feel like I'm a field general. I love to score. I love to put the ball in other receivers' hands. I'm not a ball hog at all. It may look like it but I'm not. I just love winning. Yes sir."

 

 

 

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33 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Worth repeating.

More importantly, wouldn't it be the same nomenclature that Daboll should be installing here? The more I see of Jackson the more I am warming up to him being the guy. I see Beane drawing a lot of Cam comparisons when discussing him as well.

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4 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

 

1 minute ago, KelsaysLunchbox said:

More importantly, wouldn't it be the same nomenclature that Daboll should be installing here? The more I see of Jackson the more I am warming up to him being the guy. I see Beane drawing a lot of Cam comparisons when discussing him as well.

 

Indeed.

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1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

 

Indeed.

Im warming up to the fact that we might be able to upgrade at QB while still being able to use our picks in this draft to load this team up with talent at other positions

 

How about

 

Lamar Jackson and a DT?

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Lamar Jackson and a LB?

 

and then there are the plethera of other picks we have in this draft to fill areas like RB, ORT, WR

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On 2/2/2018 at 6:53 AM, Loosh said:

He blows Taylor away....please.  He will be a great pro. 

Agreed, I'm betting 4.4-4.5.  He's the fastest QB I've ever seen...Vick included.  And the best arm in the draft.   Needs better accuracy...we'll see.  I'd take him in a heartbeat.

I second that......I rate Rosen and Jackson the top two QB's

 

I actually have me some Baker love, despite the shorty dis.  Rosen or Mayfield if we trade up, Jackson I hope just a mild trade-up.

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16 hours ago, Domdab99 said:

Let's be honest: if he was white, there'd be no discussion on whether or not he should be a QB. 

I'd be fine with the Bills taking Jackson at 21 or 22. 

 

I hate to believe that, but I'm reluctantly coming to agree.  Asking a Heisman winning QB with close to 60% completion and 3660 passing yards (similar yards to a known pocket guy) to work out at WR while drooling over a big hulking behemoth with 56% completion and much fewer yards against weaker competition, is just not a good look.

 

Pointing out a draft prospects flaws is one thing - fair game, and he has flaws.  Suggesting he should change positions is something else.

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14 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Jackson and Mayfield are two of the most intriguing qbs I can rememberin The draft.  They could be either stars or busts. I really don't see an in between with them.

 

that said, I don't trust the Bills in developing qbs so I would prefer a more polished guy. But LJ is very interesting. 

If Mayfield were 6'4", nobody would be talking about his bust potential.  The guy is going to be a star.

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