BillsFan130 Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 On 1/15/2018 at 3:38 PM, xRUSHx said: Why it is the same old gibberish of making excuses as to why Tyrod has had a new OC every season he has been a starter. Expand What I said were not excuses. Most of my points were actually facts. If that’s all you have to say to my post then take the L and move on
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 On 1/15/2018 at 3:36 PM, The_Dude said: Im commenting on the hire in a thread dedicated to commenting on the hire. ? Expand You never say what you want other than some fantastical idea that doesn't exist. All I hear is someone with his own pelts and trophies or great rankings as an NFL OC. We hired a guy with 5 Super Bowl rings and a national championship and is plenty good enough for Belichick and Saban. Nobody knows how he will do, but it is illogical to think we know everything about this hire. We might know 20% if were lucky just tp pick a number.
xRUSHx Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) On 1/15/2018 at 3:40 PM, billsfan11 said: What I said were not excuses. Most of my points were actually facts. If that’s all you have to say to my post then take the L and move on Expand Tyrod can have the L, its the big L we have every season with Tyrod as the starter, the L that tells each OC with Tyrod to get Lost. It's the same L our new OC will get with Tyrod, why? Because there is not a OC that will ever keep a job with Tyrod under center. Edited January 15, 2018 by xRUSHx
Dr. Who Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 On 1/15/2018 at 3:22 PM, ndirish1978 said: Isn't the "pound the rock" philosophy a product of the place we play though? I might be wrong, but doesn't conventional thinking state that colder climate stadiums without a roof and swirling winds are tougher places for passing teams? Expand That is the typical wisdom and one understands why folks think that. OTOH, Big Ben and Brady consistently seem to have prolific passing offenses in similar weather. 1
BillsFan130 Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 On 1/15/2018 at 3:42 PM, xRUSHx said: Tyrod can have the L, its the big L we have every season with Tyrod as the starter, the L that tells each OC with Tyrod to get Lost. Expand Lol once again, great response to my post. Thank you for your amazing insight
SouthNYfan Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 On 1/15/2018 at 3:43 PM, Dr. Who said: That is the typical wisdom and one understands why folks think that. OTOH, Big Ben and Brady consistently seem to have prolific passing offenses in similar weather. Expand Don't forget Rodgers, who thrives in lambeau 1
xRUSHx Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 On 1/15/2018 at 3:43 PM, billsfan11 said: Lol once again, great response to my post. Thank you for your amazing insight Expand Truth is a new OC EVERY SEASON regardless of how you try to sugar coat it.
MrEpsYtown Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 Daboll is probably the guy McDermott wanted all along from the minute he was hired. There was probably no way Belicheat would let Daboll leave to go an AFC east rival, so when to Bama for a year to win a national championship and now he was free to go wherever he wanted. That's probably why this decision was made so quickly.
ndirish1978 Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 On 1/15/2018 at 3:43 PM, Dr. Who said: That is the typical wisdom and one understands why folks think that. OTOH, Big Ben and Brady consistently seem to have prolific passing offenses in similar weather. Expand Yeah I don't pretend to be an expert on the matter but this seems like a logical point against my contention.
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 On 1/15/2018 at 3:43 PM, Dr. Who said: That is the typical wisdom and one understands why folks think that. OTOH, Big Ben and Brady consistently seem to have prolific passing offenses in similar weather. Expand It is a simple heuristic that in bad whether it is easier to run the ball, play defense, don't turn the ball over and have a good kicking game. If you have a HOF like Jim Kelly or the guys you mentioned you can do more. Ideally your team can do it all, because you play on the road right. But, if you don't have a great thrower, it doesn't make sense to come out throwing the ball all over the place in bad weather. Ever see Dan Fouts in the 1982 championship game? Not pretty!
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 On 1/15/2018 at 3:45 PM, xRUSHx said: Truth is a new OC EVERY SEASON regardless of how you try to sugar coat it. Expand Truth is he's the QB of the team that broke the drought regardless of how you try to downplay it.
HappyDays Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 On 1/15/2018 at 3:30 PM, The_Dude said: it’s also possible that the Bills couldn’t get other guys to town. I mean think about it — if you’re a sought after coach why go to the Bills? We got Tyrod Taylor and as of now picks 21 and 22. There’s no guarantee to an OC that we’ll have a QB he can work with or an elite prospect. Expand I don't get the sense that the Bills were shopping around. I think McDermott wanted Daboll and they got him right away. No other interviews were reported. McDermott has a history with him so maybe he just trusts Daboll can do what he needs him to on offense. Daboll unlike Dennison has had play calling duties in his career and I'm guessing that's what McDermott was primarily looking for.
xRUSHx Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 On 1/15/2018 at 3:46 PM, BuffaloHokie13 said: Truth is he's the QB of the team that broke the drought regardless of how you try to downplay it. Expand Truth is he is NOT the reason the drought ended 1
BillsFan130 Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 On 1/15/2018 at 3:45 PM, xRUSHx said: Truth is a new OC EVERY SEASON regardless of how you try to sugar coat it. Expand Once again if that’s all if you have to say to my post just take the L. I gave you facts and a detailed response, and if that’s all you have to say then just please stop
Stank_Nasty Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 On 1/15/2018 at 3:46 PM, BuffaloHokie13 said: Truth is he's the QB of the team that broke the drought regardless of how you try to downplay it. Expand i'm still trying to wrap my head around his new OC every year comment.... lynn got promoted becuz of what he got out of taylor and the offense. how on earth does somebody spin that into pretending taylor got him canned? rush is honestly one of the worst posters ive ever encountered. I've been off the board for a couple days and sure enough I see his ignorance right in the top thread of the page. good lord.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 On 1/15/2018 at 3:30 PM, The_Dude said: Um, I’m sorry you don’t like my point but I don’t have to submit a name just to appease you. I can say I’m not fond of the hire just yet without having to state ‘this guy would have been better.’ it’s also possible that the Bills couldn’t get other guys to town. I mean think about it — if you’re a sought after coach why go to the Bills? We got Tyrod Taylor and as of now picks 21 and 22. There’s no guarantee to an OC that we’ll have a QB he can work with or an elite prospect. Kelly never had an issue throwing here. Expand Shhh. Don't look now, but during the Bills "4 Falls" and 1989, we typically rushed more than we passed (1 year I think within 10 attempts). Not until 1994 did passing attempts clearly >> rushing attempts (the year we fell to 7-9). Bills only had a top-5 passing offense once in those years. You can say "you're not fond of the hire" without suggesting who you prefer, but you may come across as a Mikey ("give it to Mikey, he hates everything"). IOW, without knowing who you would prefer, it's hard to place a value on your dislike. I reserve judgement myself. I just point out this: you're writing as though this guy was an afterthought, and better folks wouldn't come here because, QB. Here's a college OC making $1.2M who just unveiled a hot new QB during the college championship. He doesn't have to go anywhere, he can stay right there and have fun. He also has to know he'll get a limited number of future OC shots in the NFL given his past lack of success. He's absolutely not gonna take a gig if he thinks he'll get stuck at QB again. I expect in order to get him here, he had to understand their plans for QB and buy into them. 1 1
ndirish1978 Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 On 1/15/2018 at 3:46 PM, horned dogs said: It is a simple heuristic that in bad whether it is easier to run the ball, play defense, don't turn the ball over and have a good kicking game. If you have a HOF like Jim Kelly or the guys you mentioned you can do more. Ideally your team can do it all, because you play on the road right. But, if you don't have a great thrower, it doesn't make sense to come out throwing the ball all over the place in bad weather. Ever see Dan Fouts in the 1982 championship game? Not pretty! Expand This guy said heuristic, so I'm gonna go with whatever he said. 1
Stank_Nasty Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 On 1/15/2018 at 3:48 PM, billsfan11 said: Once again if that’s all if you have to say to my post just take the L. I gave you facts and a detailed response, and if that’s all you have to say then just please stop Expand he's also the same guy that pitched a fit after the colts game when taylor got the nod and swore we wouldn't win another game all year and that taylor would probably be getting bench by halftime of the home fins game.... he's not all there man.
Fixxxer Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 On 1/15/2018 at 3:45 PM, MrEpsYtown said: Daboll is probably the guy McDermott wanted all along from the minute he was hired. There was probably no way Belicheat would let Daboll leave to go an AFC east rival, so when to Bama for a year to win a national championship and now he was free to go wherever he wanted. That's probably why this decision was made so quickly. Expand I read there's some Wiliams & Mary connection, but when I googled them, McD was there in 1998, whereas, Daboll was there in 1997. In 1998 Daboll took a job at Michigan State. Am I missing something?
xRUSHx Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 On 1/15/2018 at 3:48 PM, billsfan11 said: Once again if that’s all if you have to say to my post just take the L. I gave you facts and a detailed response, and if that’s all you have to say then just please stop Expand Facts are a new OC EVERY SEASON that is all I need to say about it. You trying to paint a pretty picture still shows the same thing, a new OC EVERY SEASON
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