Jasovon Posted January 8, 2018 Author Share Posted January 8, 2018 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Ah, that’s the Pepsi Rookie of the Year. It’s annual nominees are driven by their weekly award. There is an AP OROY and AP DROY that they present the night before the SB at the NFL Honors ceremony. They usually invite 2 or 3 finalists for each and present it that night. ah fair enough, there are so many i struggle to keep track. Still sucks Tre isn't on there though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Jasovon said: ah fair enough, there are so many i struggle to keep track. Still sucks Tre isn't on there though Yes there are a ton. Pro Football Weekly is another, which I think Kiko won in 2013. i don’t remember Tre ever winning (or being nominated for) that Pepsi ROW -so not surprised he’s not on that ballot. Edited January 8, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 15 minutes ago, Virgil said: Where is this coming from? I thought there was offensive and defensive I, too, am confused for this exact reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Ahhh ok, so not APs OROY and DROY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 OROY will be Kamara and DROY will be Lattimore. The NOS had a great draft! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 15 minutes ago, Jasovon said: https://247sports.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/Bolt/Pittsburgh-Steelers-JuJu-Smith-Schuster-TJ-Watt-not-on-NFLs-ballot-for-Rookie-of-the-Year-113268643 Christian McAffery made it, that's nonsense Maybe they saw White's dropped interception that may have changed the outcome of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 16 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: That’s fine - one less negotiation point in his second contract. The NFL is a joke though - you start to wonder if it’s being run by the Russian mob. No it is not fine if he does not get some love. Kid has played his arse off , and has fine stats. a nod would be the right thing to do 15 minutes ago, section122 said: It is a billion dollar industry. I won't say Russian mob but to believe it is entirely on the up and up would be naive at best. Putin still have Kraft's ring? he loaned it to trump 7 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: OROY will be Kamara and DROY will be Lattimore. The NOS had a great draft! tis true enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 How is Lattimore on there but White isn't? They're both CB's, and their stats are extremely similar. Lattimore White -52 Tackles -69 Tackles -1 Forced Fumbles -1 Forced Fumble -0 Fumbles Rec. -2 Fumbles Rec. -5 Interceptions -4 Interceptions -18 Pass Def. -18 Pass Def. -1 TD -1 TD Ok so what makes Lattimore worthy of a nomination but not White? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, BigDingus said: How is Lattimore on there but White isn't? They're both CB's, and their stats are extremely similar. Lattimore White -52 Tackles -69 Tackles -1 Forced Fumbles -1 Forced Fumble -0 Fumbles Rec. -2 Fumbles Rec. -5 Interceptions -4 Interceptions -18 Pass Def. -18 Pass Def. -1 TD -1 TD Ok so what makes Lattimore worthy of a nomination but not White? Well you also have to look at snap count. Lattimore played in nearly 4 less games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Wayne Cubed said: Well you also have to look at snap count. Lattimore played in nearly 4 less games. shouldn't that be a negative when considering. Being available should be pretty high on the list of factors ? and He should just get in for his dancing anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Just now, 3rdand12 said: shouldn't that be a negative when considering. Being available should be pretty high on the list of factors ? and He should just get in for his dancing anyways. Actually I would consider availablility a positive but when comparing stats like that, Lattimore did all that in 4 less games. Doesn’t really make Whites stats stand out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Wayne Cubed said: Well you also have to look at snap count. Lattimore played in nearly 4 less games. Fair point, but on the opposite end I could argue Lattimore was in a better situation for stats as the Saints were putting the hurt on people and forcing opponents to pass to play catch up. The Bills let people run on over them, and never really put anyone away to where they'd have to ditch the run game and focus solely on passing. Lattimore got more picks just by virtue of teams having to play catchup all the time. Buffalo was ranked 29th in rush defense, so opponents never had to throw much against us, while the Saints were ranked 16th. Not sure how much of a factor any of that is, and I acknowledge Lattimore is good (and deserving), but I think considering the circumstances White had working against him proved he's equally as capable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 It's Trumps fault. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I'm not sure how you pick Lattimore, but then pick Kamara over Tre White. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I would take McCaffery out and put Tre in, but like you said he wouldn't win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said: Well you also have to look at snap count. Lattimore played in nearly 4 less games. Lattimore's impact on the Saints' D goes far beyond the numbers. He dramatically changes the way they play coverage. Both he and White are fine players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Lattimore's impact on the Saints' D goes far beyond the numbers. He dramatically changes the way they play coverage. Both he and White are fine players. Oh I definitely agree, just was saying if you are going to bring numbers to the table, Lattimore got his numbers in less games and less snaps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Lattimore's impact on the Saints' D goes far beyond the numbers. He dramatically changes the way they play coverage. Both he and White are fine players. So he didn't even make the list from this weekend? And Cam threw all over the place (like a lot of teams end up having to do against the Saints), so he had more opportunities to make plays than White. Again, not saying Lattimore isn't deserving, I'm just saying I don't see White as far beneath him. Edited January 8, 2018 by BigDingus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, BigDingus said: So he didn't even make the list from this weekend? And Cam threw all over the place (like a lot of teams end up having to do against the Saints), so he had more opportunities to make plays than White. Again, not saying Lattimore isn't deserving, I'm just saying I don't see White as far beneath him. No one should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 ...how can he NOT be a DROY candidate?......what the hell happened from Nov. 2017 when the evaluations were made (see below) versus now? NFL.com Published: Nov. 1, 2017 at 01:46 p.m. Updated: Nov. 5, 2017 at 09:37 a.m. DEFENSIVE ROOKIE OF THE YEAR Gil Brandt: Tre'Davious White, CB, Buffalo Bills. White has allowed just 48.9 percent of passes against him to be completed -- that's phenomenal. He has 12 pass breakups, 26 tackles and a pick. Steve Wyche: White. He is making plays and getting better. With the Bills likely in the hunt, he'll be put on the spot. Adam Rank: White. Looks like we have another shutdown corner in the NFL. He absolutely ghosted Amari Cooper on Sunday (right after the Raiders receiver had the game of his life). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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