BigDingus Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 http://www.espn.com/nfl/attendance/_/sort/homePct So I keep seeing these threads mocking the Dolphins attendance for the last game of the season, saying if the situation was reversed the Bills would've had a full stadium. But we've seen time & time again that really isn't true. Even this year, we've seen games where there are plenty of seats empty, even though we were in the thick of the playoff race. Even in week 15, against the apparently "hated rival" Dolphins, with a chance to go 8-6 and as our LAST home game, we only managed to sell 85% of the tickets. Overall, we rank 24th while Miami ranks 3rd. Even when you switch to "average" attendance, Bills only move up to 17th, still one spot below Miami at 16th. The Jags are 19th in percentage, and 21st in average just for reference since they're also made fun of for the tarps, then swapping them out for pools. I think people still assume we just turn out in droves no matter what, as we used to be that way in the past. I don't blame people for not going amidst an 18 year playoff drought, but I feel the glorification of our fan turnout isn't reality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Yes, but we are 17th in avg attendance/game 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF Bills Fan Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Pittsburgh, Minnesota and Buffalo all at the same level which is interesting for teams with hardcore fan bases, successful teams (more so Pitt and minn right now) and Minnesota has that awesome new stadium. I'll point to our snow game which probably didn't help the attendance figure. But that seems low for us and few other cities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Could this be based on purchased tickets? As in corporate seasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Yes, but we are 17th in avg attendance/game Yep. Despite being in the second-smallest market, holding the longest postseason-less streak in sports, and having to travel to a game in this... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloSol Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 We are 4th in road attendance, so your point is invalid. Or are you saying more opponents fans show up when ever the daunting, must have ticket, previously part of the longest playoff draught Bills come into town? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 14 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Yes, but we are 17th in avg attendance/game That's what I said in the original post...and still behind Miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloSol Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Also, official numbers are based on tickets sold not attendance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, BuffaloSol said: We are 4th in road attendance, so your point is invalid. Or are you saying more opponents fans show up when ever the daunting, must have ticket, previously part of the longest playoff draught Bills come into town? We're actually 30th in attendance for road games. http://www.espn.com/nfl/attendance/_/sort/awayAvg Or you're talking about percentage. I guess that makes sense for all the displaced Bills fans. Kudos there. But I was talking about home games and how "if the situations were reversed" in regards to the Miami game, we'd have apparently sold out. We wouldn't have, and didn't in week 15, even though it was the LAST HOME GAME, against a division rival, and with playoffs on the line. 3 minutes ago, BuffaloSol said: Also, official numbers are based on tickets sold not attendance. No, you can see attendance by those who checked into the game. It's posted after each game. Also, if you have eyes you can look at the Bills stadium and see all the empty seats, like with Miami in week 15, and know it's definitely not even close to full capacity. Edited January 4, 2018 by BigDingus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloSol Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Just now, BigDingus said: We're actually 30th in attendance for road games. http://www.espn.com/nfl/attendance/_/sort/awayAvg No, we're actually 4th, we go by percentage not amount. You understand we played the chargers right? You know at the 25,000 seat stubhub soccer stadium...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Oh well. At least we are in the top 6 of teams still playing football right now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, BuffaloSol said: No, we're actually 4th, we go by percentage not amount. You understand we played the chargers right? You know at the 25,000 seat stubhub soccer stadium...... Yes, I corrected my post in terms of percentage we're at 4th for away, in terms of average we're at 30th. But it doesn't change the home game sellout issue which is what I brought up. How we apparently would've sold out if we were 5-10 against an 8-7 Miami team playing for a playoff birth. We didn't even sell out the last home game of the year against Miami, when our own playoffs were on the line. 1 minute ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Oh well. At least we are in the top 6 of teams still playing football right now Cheers to that. But you mean 12 teams Edited January 4, 2018 by BigDingus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuvtalker Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, BigDingus said: We're actually 30th in attendance for road games. http://www.espn.com/nfl/attendance/_/sort/awayAvg No, you can see attendance by those who checked into the game. It's posted after each game. Also, if you have eyes you can look at the Bills stadium and see all the empty seats, like with Miami in week 15, and know it's definitely not even close to full capacity. I have a feeling that those numbers are about to change, starting next season. What McDermott is doing, and between he and Beane, if they can hit a homerun in the upcoming draft, and make just a few key additions in free agency, this team won't just be gunning for a WC spot. They'll be aiming for a championship. And attendance, I do believe, will reflect it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cage Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 26 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Yes, but we are 17th in avg attendance/game Curious how we rank per game if you exclude the Colts game under dire weather circumstances?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, BigDingus said: Cheers to that. But you mean 12 teams Of course. No work today, and I’ve had a few barley pops waiting for this USA v Sweden game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloSol Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Attendance is determined by tickets sold not actual attendance. You are wrong, I thought most people knew that this is how attendance is counted. www.forbes.com/sites/sportsmoney/2011/05/25/how-sports-attendance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 13 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Oh well. At least we are in the top 6 of teams still playing football right now Swingin away! Drinking out of cups! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 The Bills have always had a problem selling December games and having 3 this year doesn't help the #'s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 (edited) 41 minutes ago, BigDingus said: http://www.espn.com/nfl/attendance/_/sort/homePct So I keep seeing these threads mocking the Dolphins attendance for the last game of the season, saying if the situation was reversed the Bills would've had a full stadium. But we've seen time & time again that really isn't true. Even this year, we've seen games where there are plenty of seats empty, even though we were in the thick of the playoff race. Even in week 15, against the apparently "hated rival" Dolphins, with a chance to go 8-6 and as our LAST home game, we only managed to sell 85% of the tickets. Overall, we rank 24th while Miami ranks 3rd. Even when you switch to "average" attendance, Bills only move up to 17th, still one spot below Miami at 16th. The Jags are 19th in percentage, and 21st in average just for reference since they're also made fun of for the tarps, then swapping them out for pools. I think people still assume we just turn out in droves no matter what, as we used to be that way in the past. I don't blame people for not going amidst an 18 year playoff drought, but I feel the glorification of our fan turnout isn't reality. How does Dallas have a 116% attendance average? Edited January 4, 2018 by ColoradoBills 116 not 117 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said: How does Dallas have a 117% attendance average? Disproportionate amount of conjoined twins in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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