billsfan89 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 28 minutes ago, westerndecline said: Star lotuleli Richardson Upshaw Resign Thornton Resign Williams possibly.... The nt from Wisconsin is amazing Id also sign ngata to replace williams if possible Lotuleli and ngata next to each other is destruction!! I think Kyle is done. He is still a decent player but another season of NFL football on his older body and I think he is better off just retiring. The Bills are better off getting some cap space and Kyle is best off leaving while he is still decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westerndecline Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 25 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: I think Kyle is done. He is still a decent player but another season of NFL football on his older body and I think he is better off just retiring. The Bills are better off getting some cap space and Kyle is best off leaving while he is still decent. I agree The only dts id say are worthy of coming back to.compete are Washington ( who i like) and Thornton as a backup Having the lotulelei brothers at dt is my ultimate goal if i was gm... Ngata to replace thornton is possible too Defensive tackle will be the most overall position going into 2018 in my opinion Having a devastating run defense and destruction at d-tackle is a huge part of McDermott's scheme Id like Star lotulelei Haloti Ngata Lowell lotulelei Aldophus Washington Cedric thornton Hughes Lawson Davis Ealy Thts my dline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, westerndecline said: I agree The only dts id say are worthy of coming back to.compete are Washington ( who i like) and Thornton as a backup Having the lotulelei brothers at dt is my ultimate goal if i was gm... Ngata to replace thornton is possible too Defensive tackle will be the most overall position going into 2018 in my opinion Having a devastating run defense and destruction at d-tackle is a huge part of McDermott's scheme Id like Star lotulelei Haloti Ngata Lowell lotulelei Aldophus Washington Cedric thornton Hughes Lawson Davis Ealy Thts my dline 11 I think they need to find a pass rusher early in the draft. Hughes, Lawson, and Davis should come back but the 4th player should be a rookie, Hughes is older, Lawson more of an edge controller and Davis is a good backup, but they need some youth off the edge. Unless the team makes a big play for a QB in the draft they need to upgrade. I also don't see Ngata being a fit. He is an older player and he is coming off of an injury. I would rather they save that roster spot for a younger player. But Star and Lowell Lotulelei with Adolphus would be a nice trio at the position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westerndecline Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Just now, billsfan89 said: I think they need to find a pass rusher early in the draft. Hughes, Lawson, and Davis should come back but the 4th player should be a rookie, Hughes is older, Lawson more of an edge controller and Davis is a good backup, but they need some youth off the edge. Unless the team makes a big play for a QB in the draft they need to upgrade. I also don't see Ngata being a fit. He is an older player and he is coming off of an injury. I would rather they save that roster spot for a younger player. But Star and Lowell Lotulelei with Adolphus would be a nice trio at the position. Its very difficult to find premium edge rushers Attachou is a great speed rusher i like But u might have to over pay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 (edited) I'm am surprised they let Coleman go again--but I say bring him back with more time to develop. From the list Poe or Allen. And draft Vita Vea from Washington Edited December 27, 2017 by CSBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I like Bromley as a rotational guy or someone to start opposite another real stout Dlineman...and he's only 25. I also think like others have said, it's a real chance to get a couple of guys on that list AND Draft their true star DT IF they don't move up for a QB.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 20 hours ago, The Jokeman said: Only if at a reduced salary and role would I want Kyle back as he's never been a run stuffing DT. Love meatball, but this is the right plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westerndecline Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, CSBill said: I'm am surprised they let Coleman go again--but I say bring him back with more time to develop. From the list Poe or Allen. And draft Vita Vea from Washington I'm pretty sure they'll bring back Deandre Coleman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 minute ago, westerndecline said: I'm pretty sure they'll bring back Deandre Coleman I do hope so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, westerndecline said: I'm pretty sure they'll bring back Deandre Coleman I think there is a PS squad position open. Just look at the moves from the last few weeks,guys are released then re-signed a few weeks later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westerndecline Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I also think Coleman is one of those run-stuffing tackles that can play way better when he has a star Lotulelei playing next to him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I doubt we break the bank at the DT position in FA especially if given the Dareus situation. So at this point I'm guessing we use one of our 1st round picks on a DT (assuming there's one there worth taking) and then also sign a FA who isn't a big name and won't cost as much. Either way DT is probably the biggest hole on this team not factoring in the QB situation. Also need to address LB and DE as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobloodfloridahome Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Is there a Sam Adams available? 8 minutes ago, SaviorPeterman said: Either way DT is probably the biggest hole on this team not factoring in the QB situation. Also need to address LB and DE as well. I honestly think a big run stuffing DT that can take on two blockers immediately helps our pass rush and reduces our need for a DE. That being said Shaq has so far not lighted it up so a DE would be a nice pickup. Another Milano would help tremendously in the LB core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 minute ago, buffalobloodfloridahome said: Is there a Sam Adams available? At the closest grocery store I think Star and his brother fit the profile,plus the bills still have Washington,Thornton and Coleman in the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuru4 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I think we need to grab 2 dt’s in fa because there is no question that we are moving up in the draft for allen or darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 They might sign a couple of lower-tier DTs and see who can be productive in their rotation. I doubt they spend big money in FA at that position, they're more likely to draft some guys. A trade could happen with the way Beane was dealing this off-season, can't rule that out. If KW wants to play, I'm sure McDermott would want him back. And surely the FO would want a team-friendly deal and I think we'd see KW's role reduced quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 20 hours ago, billsfan89 said: Star would be a great anchor, fits a lot of what they need. What about trying to get Star’s “little” brother in maybe the 2nd round of the draft? 1 hour ago, SaviorPeterman said: I doubt we break the bank at the DT position in FA especially if given the Dareus situation. So at this point I'm guessing we use one of our 1st round picks on a DT (assuming there's one there worth taking) and then also sign a FA who isn't a big name and won't cost as much. Either way DT is probably the biggest hole on this team not factoring in the QB situation. Also need to address LB and DE as well. The Dareus trade was not about his price tag. He is not a worker, never in the kind of shape he should be and is unreliable in his availablility due to suspensions. I think the new regime hoped that he would come around, but he punched his ticket out of town when he missed team bus to a preseason game and was sent home. i don’t think his trade means that the Bills would not spend substantial money on a DT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 hour ago, blacklabel said: They might sign a couple of lower-tier DTs and see who can be productive in their rotation. I doubt they spend big money in FA at that position, they're more likely to draft some guys. A trade could happen with the way Beane was dealing this off-season, can't rule that out. If KW wants to play, I'm sure McDermott would want him back. And surely the FO would want a team-friendly deal and I think we'd see KW's role reduced quite a bit. The Bills would be idiotic to not pick up a good run stuffing DT in free agency. There is a big need on the roster for a big 'DT. The Panthers defense always struggled until they plugged Star into the middle. In 2011 McD's first year as the D-Coordinator the Panthers were 6-10 and ranked 25th against the rush. In 2012 they were ranked 14th in rush defense (Helped by Dwan Edwards.) Star's rookie year they were ranked 2nd in rush defense. Big run stuffing DT's are important to the success of a 4-3 defense. The Bills have enough cap space, there are a lot of good DT's out on the market, and the Bills have so many other needs on the roster that their draft picks could be used to address. Why on Earth would they waste a draft pick or try and go cheap at DT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Why does ANYONE think Adolphus Washington should be a part of any rotation next year......this guy makes NO plays. trade for a box of rocks or cut please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Beane stated in his press conference that he doesn't make many big splashes in free agency, I'm going to take his word on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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