JPP Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 28 minutes ago, JM2009 said: It took this game to realize that the Oline is in trouble? LOL...only for some....only for some.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerx Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 21 minutes ago, dpberr said: I literally LOL'ed that a FB in the NFL is *not* a skill player and he shouldn't be able to catch passes. You could be the greatest defense attorney America has ever seen. You mean the FB position that has been eliminated by most teams in the league to get more "SKILLED" players on the field and spread things out? That's skilled to you? Wait a second? Is that you RICO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Bills757 said: No need. Just taking his head out of his butt will be a great start. I put myself in Coaches shoes. I did it because I wanted him to start Nate Peterman at the exact time he ended up doing it. I would be repenting right about now. So it may have sounded sarcastic because it was meant to be funny. I was very serious. Edited November 21, 2017 by Lfod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 45 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: I think it is more or less fair to put 2 INTs on Peterman, but not 5. I also think there is a strong chance he starts in KC, even though most fans probably can't believe that. I do NOT think he is ready to play and had things gone slightly differently, he could have had a really good day. He's not ready. Still glad they tried with him though. That game is still a loss all day long if Tyrod had started. Until the D is fixed, forget winning again this season. Well, except 1 or maybe 2 more games. I have not seen one fan criticize Taylor for interceptions, ever. No one criticizes Taylor for the balls he throws; they criticize him for the balls he does not throw. You must not read all the game day threads then because I have seen Tyrod criticized for every throw he makes both good and bad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) 32 minutes ago, NoPlayoffs said: If one drop by a receiver is enough to turn Peterman into a drooling interception machine, then he has no business being on a NFL field. Then you didn't watch the game. Edited November 21, 2017 by RoyBatty is alive wrong edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) I am sure Tom Brady would do bad with Dennison and O-Line. With this swiss D as well Yes it is that horrible. Edited November 21, 2017 by Buffalo Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick B Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, theRalph said: Drought psychosis is reigning supreme. Everywhere. Except at One Bills Drive. Yes, it was a disaster. But shut down your emotions for a moment and consider the facts: 1. Peterman went 3-3 before the first INT. Who among us, after the throw to Benjamin, did not shout “that’s the throw we’ve been looking for!!!” 2. Pat DiMarco should have his beard plucked out whisker by whisker for playing beach volleyball with a throw right on his hands. That 1st INT wrecked the day. 3. We didn’t expect it, but Peterman’s start revealed stark weaknesses on the offensive line. On 2 of the interceptions, he had pass rushers in his grill. And it certainly wasn’t because he was holding out of the ball too long. 4. So 3 of the 5 INTs weren’t exactly Peterman’s fault. The other two were his fault. Dak Prescott also had two very similar INTs 2 hours later, at home, vs. the Eagles. For as much as fans go on and on about the drought, they really don’t give credence to the fact that the drought has tremendous negative energy. This may sound crazy but I believe Peterman’s start actually put a dent in that energy and that energy bit back. When you arrive at this understanding, you will understand that it will be much more difficult for the bills to break the drought that it will for them to go on a run in the playoffs. Peterman starts in Kansas City, Mark my words. I can agree with most of this. You can not lay the blame for this lose on Peterman. The defense and O line played a huge roll in the lose. However, your point number 3. You may not of expected the O line to play so poorly. But I have seen in in several games before that one. A contributing factor to Taylor's performance. Just Taylor protects the ball better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, aceman_16 said: Yep... the defense is crapping the bed. However, still doesn't absolve the Bills from making adjustments to be a better team today or for tomorrow. It is like saying "why deal with my heart condition when I have skin cancer?" The team works on both the best they are able and you move on. This is NOT an either or situation. Fair enough but that's not really what I'm referring too. He was talking about ending the drought and I basically said whether its Peterman or TT, or really any QB, if the Bills don't fix their defence they won't be going on any run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 minute ago, billsfan11 said: Fair enough but that's not really what I'm referring too. He was talking about ending the drought and I basically said whether its Peterman or TT, or really any QB, if the Bills don't fix their defence they won't be going on any run I stand corrected then... sorry for my reading comprehension lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 18 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: I stand corrected then... sorry for my reading comprehension lol Haha no worries buddy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grb Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, theRalph said: Drought psychosis is reigning supreme. Everywhere. Except at One Bills Drive. Yes, it was a disaster. But shut down your emotions for a moment and consider the facts: 1. Peterman went 3-3 before the first INT. Who among us, after the throw to Benjamin, did not shout “that’s the throw we’ve been looking for!!!” 2. Pat DiMarco should have his beard plucked out whisker by whisker for playing beach volleyball with a throw right on his hands. That 1st INT wrecked the day. 3. We didn’t expect it, but Peterman’s start revealed stark weaknesses on the offensive line. On 2 of the interceptions, he had pass rushers in his grill. And it certainly wasn’t because he was holding out of the ball too long. 4. So 3 of the 5 INTs weren’t exactly Peterman’s fault. The other two were his fault. Dak Prescott also had two very similar INTs 2 hours later, at home, vs. the Eagles. For as much as fans go on and on about the drought, they really don’t give credence to the fact that the drought has tremendous negative energy. This may sound crazy but I believe Peterman’s start actually put a dent in that energy and that energy bit back. When you arrive at this understanding, you will understand that it will be much more difficult for the bills to break the drought that it will for them to go on a run in the playoffs. Peterman starts in Kansas City, Mark my words. "So 3 of the 5 INTs weren’t exactly Peterman’s fault" Wow. You know. I've been one of Taylor's biggest supporters, but would never in a million years claim the Charger-strip-fumble-TD "wasn't exactly Taylor's fault". Because it was. And I'll bet theRalph didn't cut Taylor any slack about that fumble. Maybe if he just shut down his emotions and considered the facts, he wouldn't use such a laughable double standard. But, who knows? Perhaps he's still light-headed from all the "positive energy" of Peterman's 6-14-66-5 half....... Edited November 21, 2017 by grb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 2 hours ago, theRalph said: Drought psychosis is reigning supreme. Everywhere. Except at One Bills Drive. Yes, it was a disaster. But shut down your emotions for a moment and consider the facts: 1. Peterman went 3-3 before the first INT. Who among us, after the throw to Benjamin, did not shout “that’s the throw we’ve been looking for!!!” 2. Pat DiMarco should have his beard plucked out whisker by whisker for playing beach volleyball with a throw right on his hands. That 1st INT wrecked the day. 3. We didn’t expect it, but Peterman’s start revealed stark weaknesses on the offensive line. On 2 of the interceptions, he had pass rushers in his grill. And it certainly wasn’t because he was holding out of the ball too long. 4. So 3 of the 5 INTs weren’t exactly Peterman’s fault. The other two were his fault. Dak Prescott also had two very similar INTs 2 hours later, at home, vs. the Eagles. For as much as fans go on and on about the drought, they really don’t give credence to the fact that the drought has tremendous negative energy. This may sound crazy but I believe Peterman’s start actually put a dent in that energy and that energy bit back. When you arrive at this understanding, you will understand that it will be much more difficult for the bills to break the drought that it will for them to go on a run in the playoffs. Peterman starts in Kansas City, Mark my words. Ridiculous. When the Oline was dominated vs the Panthers; vs the Bengals; and vs the Jets, it was Tyrod’s fault. Now when the Oline is dominated with Peterman in there, its really the O-line’s fault. Yes, the o-line is bad. Peterman didnt stand a chance. Tyrod wouldve at least given us more of a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Bills757 said: 1. Peterman wasn't 3-3 on his first three passes. In the first two drives, he was 2-3 to Bills receivers and 2-2 to LAC DB's (with 1 TD I might add). As for the throw to Benjamin, I'd say the touch TD pass from Taylor to McCoy was far more difficult. 2. If you look closely, the sun was right in the receiver's face, and, the pass was definitely thrown harder than what it should've been. But yes, he should've caught it. 3. Ya think?! So it took Peterman getting killed to figure out the Oline stunk?! I guess, when Taylor was getting blasted in the Jets game, it was somehow Taylor's fault for taking the sacks. The double standard is alive and well in Buffalo. And if you're gonna play woulda-shoulda-coulda, two of Taylor's 3 INT's this year should've been caught which would give him a total of one for the year. In fact, the one to Clay should've given him one more TD for the year. 4. Are you really gonna go there? They weren't his fault? He threw them, bottom line. Again, the double standard is ridiculous. What's even more ridiculous is the fact McDoof is at the head of the club. If Peterman starts in KC, McD is shortening his own leash. And if Peterman has another terrible game, he will get laughed out of a job. I can only wonder how much ridicule the Pegulas will be able to take. At this point, McD looks like a stubborn coach trying to justify what most consider a ridiculous decision by compounding it to make a point. Boy was I fooled by this guy. I feel so bad to say... I agree with every bit of this. How this team must be reeling at this moment. There are so many apologists on this board for Peterman-- and I get it, my knee-jerk reaction for every QB who has stunk up the field in the last decade from Trent to Fitz to EJ to occasionally Tyrod (see there, I did it again!!!), has been to defend them-- but Peterman's play last Sunday was some of the worst NFL play I have ever seen. The interceptions do not tell the full story. He utterly crumbled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 2 hours ago, theRalph said: Drought psychosis is reigning supreme. Everywhere. Except at One Bills Drive. Yes, it was a disaster. But shut down your emotions for a moment and consider the facts: 1. Peterman went 3-3 before the first INT. Who among us, after the throw to Benjamin, did not shout “that’s the throw we’ve been looking for!!!” 2. Pat DiMarco should have his beard plucked out whisker by whisker for playing beach volleyball with a throw right on his hands. That 1st INT wrecked the day. 3. We didn’t expect it, but Peterman’s start revealed stark weaknesses on the offensive line. On 2 of the interceptions, he had pass rushers in his grill. And it certainly wasn’t because he was holding out of the ball too long. 4. So 3 of the 5 INTs weren’t exactly Peterman’s fault. The other two were his fault. Dak Prescott also had two very similar INTs 2 hours later, at home, vs. the Eagles. For as much as fans go on and on about the drought, they really don’t give credence to the fact that the drought has tremendous negative energy. This may sound crazy but I believe Peterman’s start actually put a dent in that energy and that energy bit back. When you arrive at this understanding, you will understand that it will be much more difficult for the bills to break the drought that it will for them to go on a run in the playoffs. Peterman starts in Kansas City, Mark my words. You are right. The drought is a huge negative energy to be overcome. There will be an almost immediate reaction to any positive force it encounters. She is B word. Who is the Chosen One to lead the way? Who can remove the sword from the stone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, bobobonators said: Ridiculous. When the Oline was dominated vs the Panthers; vs the Bengals; and vs the Jets, it was Tyrod’s fault. Now when the Oline is dominated with Peterman in there, its really the O-line’s fault. Yes, the o-line is bad. Peterman didnt stand a chance. Tyrod wouldve at least given us more of a chance. they made Peterman stay in the "pocket" and be a qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, section122 said: they made Peterman stay in the "pocket" and be a qb. Ha. Thats all we needed right? I read that here somewhere. Thats what was wrong with this offense - not having that amazing 3 step drop for an INT was what we were truly missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, theRalph said: Drought psychosis is reigning supreme. Everywhere. Except at One Bills Drive. Yes, it was a disaster. But shut down your emotions for a moment and consider the facts: 1. Peterman went 3-3 before the first INT. Who among us, after the throw to Benjamin, did not shout “that’s the throw we’ve been looking for!!!” 2. Pat DiMarco should have his beard plucked out whisker by whisker for playing beach volleyball with a throw right on his hands. That 1st INT wrecked the day. 3. We didn’t expect it, but Peterman’s start revealed stark weaknesses on the offensive line. On 2 of the interceptions, he had pass rushers in his grill. And it certainly wasn’t because he was holding out of the ball too long. 4. So 3 of the 5 INTs weren’t exactly Peterman’s fault. The other two were his fault. Dak Prescott also had two very similar INTs 2 hours later, at home, vs. the Eagles. For as much as fans go on and on about the drought, they really don’t give credence to the fact that the drought has tremendous negative energy. This may sound crazy but I believe Peterman’s start actually put a dent in that energy and that energy bit back. When you arrive at this understanding, you will understand that it will be much more difficult for the bills to break the drought that it will for them to go on a run in the playoffs. Peterman starts in Kansas City, Mark my words. Ok...so let me see if I can follow. Peterman, and his 5 INT's, of which 4 were legit on him, only DiMarco was not his fault, is now getting the OL is bad excuse to justify 4 irresponsible INT's in one half? Yet, Tyrod who has thrown just 3 INT's all year gets no break from playing behind the SAME OL thats been just as bad? I get we are going to move on from TT, but this is the kind of stuff that drives me crazy. For one QB its a reason, for the other its an excuse...even tho the QB where its labeled an excuse managed to throw just 3 INTs the entire season, led us to 5 wins, and managed 3 TDs and no Picks against the Jets where the OL had one of the worst performances I have ever seen an OL on any team play ever. Not to mention, his INT's were really really bad, not tight throws where the DB made a play when a QB tried to gunsling into a tight window. The most comical part is you are trying to find solice in a few throws...throws TT had made MANY times himself this year no matter how blind you want to be to that fact. And one of those throws was to KB, a guy TT really hasnt had a chance to play much with yet. And TT also made one of those very throws to KB on the first drive of the saints game just like NP did. Maybe just maybe that game helps appreciate more what TT has been able to accomplish behind this same line that ate Nate alive. The biased here is just absurd...and people wonder why some say that Black QB's are held to a different standard. For the record I am NOT saying your opinion has come from a race point of view, but its these types of things that add to those fires. Edited November 21, 2017 by Alphadawg7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 What a hilarious thread. Go all the way though and none were his fault. Peterman really is untouchable to some. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Just now, Billsfan1972 said: What a hilarious thread. Go all the way though and none were his fault. Peterman really is untouchable to some. The great white hope! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 22 minutes ago, section122 said: The great white hope! Yes white. A good head on his shoulders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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