Domdab99 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 WHy does everyone think Alex Smith or Kirk Cousins would do any better than Tyrod as a stop-gap? It's absurd. Let's Alex Smith put up the same numbers with the supporting cast Tyrod has had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, Domdab99 said: WHy does everyone think Alex Smith or Kirk Cousins would do any better than Tyrod as a stop-gap? It's absurd. Let's Alex Smith put up the same numbers with the supporting cast Tyrod has had. Maybe because Cousins is a better QB than Tyrod?? I agree with you regarding Smith, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 4 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said: Please just get cousins. The way he played in seattle was awesome Cousins is great between the 20s...inaide the redzone he struggles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Cousins is great between the 20s...inaide the redzone he struggles 71 passing touchdowns in his last 42 regular season games. Wish we had a qb who struggled like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGun12TD Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Ugh!!! Yuck!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 24 minutes ago, mannc said: 71 passing touchdowns in his last 42 regular season games. Wish we had a qb who struggled like that. And yet he has probably a near identical record to Taylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 29 minutes ago, matter2003 said: And yet he has probably a near identical record to Taylor As does Drew Brees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Domdab99 said: WHy does everyone think Alex Smith or Kirk Cousins would do any better than Tyrod as a stop-gap? It's absurd. Let's Alex Smith put up the same numbers with the supporting cast Tyrod has had. Kirk Cousins would be more than a stop gap. Smith maybe but not Cousins. I'd still rather sign him no matter how much money it is over possibly drafting another J.P. Losman or E.J Manuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 22 hours ago, mannc said: Wow, some awful takes in this thread. You also realize that Phil Rivers has led the Chargers to a much worse record than Tyrod since 2015, and that Drew Brees has led the Saints to one more win than Tyrod during that time, right? Please explain how a guy who was 22-30, for 320 yards, 3tds and zero ints cost his team the game. Grounding when they were in position to kick a FG and win at end of regulation. And stats don't make a great QB. Rivers is a stats guy and Romo was a stats guy and neither of them were clutch players. Romo could throw for 400 nyds and still blow the game with a clutch mistake.same with Rivers. Cousins is similar to these guys. Is he better than TT ? Yes. he has talent. But some QBs are winners and others just aren't. In NBA terms think Carmelo Anthony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 21 hours ago, JM57 said: What description did Beane give http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2017/07/buffalo_bills_gm_brandon_beane_describes_what_he_looks_for_in_franchise_quarterb.html He will keep an open mind, but his preference is a big QB. Mason Rudolph, Josh Rosen and Sam Darnold fit more of what he's describing in terms of physicality. He wants Cam or Big Ben types. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 19 hours ago, matter2003 said: Then again Cousins is 4-6 despote putting up huge numbers If he put up huge numbers, then obviously the problem isn't Cousins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PABillsfan23 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 On 11/19/2017 at 10:18 PM, Domdab99 said: God no. Cousins is an idiot who has already lost two games single-handedly with stupid decisions. I'd rather have Tyrod. ?? 28 minutes ago, buffalo2218 said: If he put up huge numbers, then obviously the problem isn't Cousins Cousins gave up 15 points in the last 5 minutes.. He missed a block on third and one and the running back got stuffed. Then he was playing defense and missed a few tackles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, purple haze said: http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2017/07/buffalo_bills_gm_brandon_beane_describes_what_he_looks_for_in_franchise_quarterb.html He will keep an open mind, but his preference is a big QB. Mason Rudolph, Josh Rosen and Sam Darnold fit more of what he's describing in terms of physicality. He wants Cam or Big Ben types. Reading that, he's talking about those guys in terms of size, sure. But then he mentions arm strength and the scheme they play in and whether or not they can or do audible. Rudolph probably has the weakest arm out of the 4, and I've seen multiple mentions of the Oklahoma State offense being a detriment to his draft stock. Then he goes into intangibles which is where I think Mayfield is going to make good GMs drool. Yeah, he's done some silly stuff like the crotch grab, but that stuff can be corrected with a little more maturity. He's got that fiery leadership style. Intangibles is where Rosen will probably get dinged by teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, PABillsfan23 said: ?? Cousins gave up 15 points in the last 5 minutes.. He missed a block on third and one and the running back got stuffed. Then he was playing defense and missed a few tackles. Well hell, that explains everything. Oh, did he kick his lineman on a FG attempt that caused a false start knocking them out of FG range that ultimately would have won them the game too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 4 hours ago, buffalo2218 said: If he put up huge numbers, then obviously the problem isn't Cousins Numbers dont alwsys equal points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 25 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Numbers dont alwsys equal points It's not the defining stat no, but given what we've seen the last 3 weeks, Cousins has put up elite numbers compared to Taylor/Peterman. Not to mention Cousins had NO beat on the road whereas Taylor couldn't do anything at home. Those that are blaming Cousins for that loss apparently just want something to argue about. If the Bills decide to go after Cousins, and use the picks to either grab a top QB or fill holes all over the place, I won't have a problem with that. Numbers may not equal points but by the same standard, the QB isn't solely the reason why a team loses either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Again no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no nnnnnnnnnnoooooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) 53 minutes ago, buffalo2218 said: It's not the defining stat no, but given what we've seen the last 3 weeks, Cousins has put up elite numbers compared to Taylor/Peterman. Not to mention Cousins had NO beat on the road whereas Taylor couldn't do anything at home. Those that are blaming Cousins for that loss apparently just want something to argue about. If the Bills decide to go after Cousins, and use the picks to either grab a top QB or fill holes all over the place, I won't have a problem with that. Numbers may not equal points but by the same standard, the QB isn't solely the reason why a team loses either Do you ever wonder why some QBs always put up great numbers but have crappy records? I mean they did make the playoffs the year before but it wasnt like they were 12-4 or something... Cousins just doesn't seem to elevate his team or raise others level of play. Its hard to judge but making plays at key times of a game will often decide who wins and who loses. Cousins is not very good during this time, henceforth why his record is near .500...putting up 350 yards passing a game is all well and good but converting on a key 3rd down late in the game is going to decide whether you win or lose more times than passing for a lot of yards...he hasnt gotten it done in crunch time...hes not that much different from Taylor in that regard. Cousins is 23-28-1 in his career as a starting QB. He wins 45% of his games. There is a reason for that. Its hard to exactly pinpoint but it's a thing...he is not that guy who is going to lead a team to a great record...he is going to put up tons of yards in the early part of the game but when you need a drive or a play late he is going to let you down. Not what we need here. He is the opposite of Aaron Rodgers in this regard. Taylor's 19-18 in comparison as a starting QB. Edited November 21, 2017 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) Cousins has put up great numbers for 3 straight years now. He is a very good, bordering on great QB. The Redskins are allowing the 2nd most points per game against in the league and their running game is 24th in the league in yards per rush. The Redskins have also had several injuries on the offensive line, yet Cousins is still playing great. People who wouldn't want Cousins on this team are clueless. We would instantly have a passing game that we haven't seen since the days of Kelly. He could legit, walk in here next year and throw for 4,500-5,000 yards and 25-30 TD's. It is actually likely his numbers would be in that range. Drew freaking Brees didn't have success the last few years because he was in a similar situation as Cousins is now. If you put a team around Cousins, you are going to the playoffs and could become a Super Bowl contender. Every game the Redskins have lost this year, their defense has allowed more than 30 points except for the Chiefs where they gave up 29. Their 6 losses are to the Vikings, the Cowboys, the Saints, the Chiefs in week 4 when they were absolutely on fire and the best team in the league, and 2 to the 9-1 Eagles. Again the Redskins troubles have absolutely nothing to do with Cousins. If we were lucky enough to get him, Bills fans should be doing back flips. Edited November 21, 2017 by K-GunJimKelly12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said: Cousins has put up great numbers for 3 straight years now. He is a very good, bordering on great QB. The Redskins are allowing the 2nd most points per game against in the league and their running game is 24th in the league in yards per rush. The Redskins have also had several injuries on the offensive line, yet Cousins is still playing great. People who wouldn't want Cousins on this team are clueless. We would instantly have a passing game that we haven't seen since the days of Kelly. He could legit, walk in here next year and throw for 4,500-5,000 yards and 25-30 TD's. It is actually likely his numbers would be in that range. Drew freaking Brees didn't have success the last few years because he was in a similar situation as Cousins is now. If you put a team around Cousins, you are going to the playoffs and could become a Super Bowl contender. No we arent clueless we realize that stats dont always tell the whole story. Cousins does not win. Wins are what counts not 5000 yards passing. Converting a 3rd down late in the game is far more important to Wins and losses than throwing for 350 yards. Cousins is not good in the red zone, is not good when the team needs him late or in close games. There is a reason why he has a .452 win percentage. He makes boneheaded decisions at the wrong times in games. When you make or dont make plays are really important. Some people are great when the chips are down and the team needs a play some aren't. Cousins isn't. He will get paid and will put up huge numbers and will continue to have a mediocre to poor record. Just let it be elsewhere. Edited November 21, 2017 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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