Kelly the Dog Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 We need a lot of talent. That is for sure. But that said, it's becoming more and more clear a franchise quarterback is a necessity. I consider the Chiefs #1 almost to be a freebie, because Tre White is a bona fide first rounder regardless of the place in the first round. He would have been a decent if not good choice at 10. If we have to give up three number ones to get Rosen I think I would do it. He's going to be good. Mayfield to me would cost half as much as have half as much chance of being a franchise guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 I thought there’d be over a dozen USC and UCLA QBs that would dominate the NFL for my four decades of watching NCAA not even close to what happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 I like both of these QBs..... but I truly think Mayfield will be the steal if the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 It’s not a steal of a draft to highly value the QB of a top ranked college team. everyine in football knows he exists, I could ask my 7 year old nephew to find 5 top prospects on google for me and Mayfield would show up on his list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 1 hour ago, TheBrownBear said: Incredibly immobile too. Could care less about that. I want a strong armed accurate pocket passer that makes every throw. That is rosen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 I really liked Darnold at the start of the year. Now, I think he should go back to school-- needs more time to develop. Rosen looks like the No. 1 pick in the upcoming draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 3 hours ago, dulles said: Well, since we aren't the Browns or Niners, I guess I don't need to spend much time watching him anymore! You never know what the Browns will do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 I really doubt that the browns will pass on the qb this time, barring a trade like luck just for example. Their fans will riot if they pass again. Might as well start watching other guys closer now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: But grew up in PA, if that makes a difference then again Rodgers grew up in Cali, played at Cal, and then went on to this career in GB of all places So did Brady. Rosen does throw the better ball but I prefer the guy who can make plays when the play breaks, which is why I prefer Darnold. 4 hours ago, dulles said: Well, since we aren't the Browns or Niners, I guess I don't need to spend much time watching him anymore! Ahh but we can trade with the 9ers who already have their QB, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 5 hours ago, /dev/null said: hand is down, knee is not. that's a fumble Nope that back knee was down before the ball even started to move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Totally confused how anyone could have Darnold over Rosen on their draft board. It's a moot point because Darnold is staying in school but c'mon it's not even close. Darnold looks like a game manager with a horrible wind up and Rosen is a star with flawless mechanics and a rifle arm. If it's because they don't trust Rosen's mental make up that's one thing but on the football field he is the better player 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Bills should develop that package to get to NO 2 and take Rosen (if both he and Darnold declare) which i think they will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted November 19, 2017 Author Share Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, kdiggz said: Totally confused how anyone could have Darnold over Rosen on their draft board. It's a moot point because Darnold is staying in school but c'mon it's not even close. Darnold looks like a game manager with a horrible wind up and Rosen is a star with flawless mechanics and a rifle arm. If it's because they don't trust Rosen's mental make up that's one thing but on the football field he is the better player Darnold has a super quick release and is pretty mobile. Plus, he's only a RS sophomore so he has more upside than Rosen. Rosen is way more polished and NFL ready. Edited November 19, 2017 by bills6969 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: Bills should develop that package to get to NO 2 and take Rosen (if both he and Darnold declare) which i think they will. We're not going to have enough ammo to trade up that far. With the QB class this year and Saquon Barkley the top picks in the draft are going to be going for a premium. Figure another 7-9 or 8-8 season for the Bills and a playoff berth for KC which puts us in the 11-17 range and KC anywhere from 21-32 Figure Cleveland, Giants, and San Fran are fighting for the #1 pick. The Giants and Browns could both be looking for a QB. San Fran would want a bonanza to move up for a QB or Barkley Rest of the Top 10 picks are going to look like Houston, Indy, Chicago, and Tampa. Not looking for a QB. Denver, San Diego, and Arizona are going to be looking at the QB class and are in a much better position to move up In the middle of the draft we also have to contend with the Jets and Miami. The Redskins could be in the market with the uncertain Cousins situation and Baltimore's eye could wander from Average Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Rosen is so, so, so good and wasted on such crappy team. It makes me sad we don't have a chance to get him. I hope Mora is having his daddy get his next job for him. 14 hours ago, TheBrownBear said: Rosen is the best pure passer in college football by a mile, but I still question his leadership and decision-making skills. Incredibly immobile too. His teammates love him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 2 hours ago, /dev/null said: We're not going to have enough ammo to trade up that far. With the QB class this year and Saquon Barkley the top picks in the draft are going to be going for a premium. Figure another 7-9 or 8-8 season for the Bills and a playoff berth for KC which puts us in the 11-17 range and KC anywhere from 21-32 Figure Cleveland, Giants, and San Fran are fighting for the #1 pick. The Giants and Browns could both be looking for a QB. San Fran would want a bonanza to move up for a QB or Barkley Rest of the Top 10 picks are going to look like Houston, Indy, Chicago, and Tampa. Not looking for a QB. Denver, San Diego, and Arizona are going to be looking at the QB class and are in a much better position to move up In the middle of the draft we also have to contend with the Jets and Miami. The Redskins could be in the market with the uncertain Cousins situation and Baltimore's eye could wander from Average Joe Perfect then deal with San Fran or Colts and get Rosen. The package wont be that much look at the Wentz package if you have your QB for 20 year NO ONE will care what it cost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 9 hours ago, bills6969 said: Darnold has a super quick release and is pretty mobile. Plus, he's only a RS sophomore so he has more upside than Rosen. Rosen is way more polished and NFL ready. You do realize they are both from the class of 2015 right? so it's a moot point that Darnold is a RS Sophomore because Rosen is a true JR and they are the same class coming out i don't think he has more upside because he is a RS sophomore i think his athleticism can be a huge upside for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: You do realize they are both from the class of 2015 right? so it's a moot point that Darnold is a RS Sophomore because Rosen is a true JR and they are the same class coming out i don't think he has more upside because he is a RS sophomore i think his athleticism can be a huge upside for him Rosen has started for 3 years, Darnold 2. Rosen was bad last year and look at him now, I wouldn't be surprised to see Darnold do the same thing next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said: Rosen has started for 3 years, Darnold 2. Rosen was bad last year and look at him now, I wouldn't be surprised to see Darnold do the same thing next year. Well yea because Rosen has been eligible for 3 years and Darnold only 2 due to RS and UCLA is a mess. Even after last year Rosen was the number 1 QB after a "bad" year. They are the same age and HS class so I dont think their potential should be judged by Darnold having 1 extra year of college eligibility i think their gameplay and tools should be the indicator. And both are gifted in different ways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Well yea because Rosen has been eligible for 3 years and Darnold only 2 due to RS and UCLA is a mess. Even after last year Rosen was the number 1 QB after a "bad" year. They are the same age and HS class so I dont think their potential should be judged by Darnold having 1 extra year of college eligibility i think their gameplay and tools should be the indicator. And both are gifted in different ways It's not about eligibility it's actual playing experience. I prefer Darnold long-term because he can make plays when plays break down and can still play in the pocket. Right now Rosen is better and hope we get him but if not I hope we get Darnold next year if we still haven't found our QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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