Mat68 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Buffalo30 said: There's no guarantee he signs with that team, he'd have no choice if he's traded. Also, the point of the post that everyone is missing because they are going nuts over someone possibly trading for Tyrod is even if we cut him, we will have at least another 10 million in cap space to work with...btw shotty QBs have been traded in the past. It's all about finding the right team That 10 mil goes a long way. I have a feeling that the team will pouch whichever DT Carolina doesn't retain between Star Loutilie or Kewan Short. Beane already has an inside track on which player that is going to be. Again with Taylor i think you are over evaluating Taylor's market value. He took the pay cut last year because there were not any teams beating down his door. I guess a conditional pick could be had but the chances are low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 3 hours ago, Buffalo30 said: There's no guarantee he signs with that team, he'd have no choice if he's traded. Also, the point of the post that everyone is missing because they are going nuts over someone possibly trading for Tyrod is even if we cut him, we will have at least another 10 million in cap space to work with...btw shotty QBs have been traded in the past. It's all about finding the right team Agree. Beane's willingness to trade player for player adds to the equation. A lot will depend on how the 2018 Rookie QB Class will be rated. TT will be on a team in 2018 and probably will be fighting for a #1 position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) 10 million in cap savings to release him. Good as gone. Fun to note - dareus will have the 2nd highest cap hit for next year, and Tyrod will be like 5th highest. Edited November 16, 2017 by dneveu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 On 11/16/2017 at 9:48 AM, Buffalo30 said: Maybe not, but look at the bigger picture of the post...we will have at least 10 million more to work with if he's gone next year. However, I've seen Brock Osweiler get traded so...anything can happen You have the 10M to work with if his option isnt picked up. He is not getting traded because every team in NFL and CFL and Highschool and College and Pop Warner know we are not picking up that option On 11/16/2017 at 10:00 AM, Buffalo30 said: There's no guarantee he signs with that team, he'd have no choice if he's traded. Also, the point of the post that everyone is missing because they are going nuts over someone possibly trading for Tyrod is even if we cut him, we will have at least another 10 million in cap space to work with...btw shotty QBs have been traded in the past. It's all about finding the right team Name those QBs and dont use Osweiller because Houston gave picks not gained them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 On 11/15/2017 at 10:11 PM, JohnBonhamRocks said: Not to mention the value of choosing where he can go and be less likely to haunt you. I'd like to see him on the Jests, two easy wins, load the box, 51-3 go Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Here is what LaConjecture is hearing around the league: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/tyrod-taylor-will-be-a-prime-trade-chip-for-the-bills-in-the-offseason/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 On 11/15/2017 at 8:45 PM, Buffalo30 said: Even though it may not look like it, Tyrod is more talented than some of the starting QBs on teams right now. He may have a market, not for a high pick but who knows. I've seen worse QBs traded It doesn't matter. The Bills don't really care about the cap except when they can use it as an excuse to not re-sign their own players. They care about actual $$$ they spend. Taylor is due a bonus of several million at the beginning of the new league year, so he'll be cut before that date. Since the entire NFL knows how the Bills operate, nobody will offer them anything. Money ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 7 minutes ago, SoTier said: It doesn't matter. The Bills don't really care about the cap except when they can use it as an excuse to not re-sign their own players. They care about actual $$$ they spend. Taylor is due a bonus of several million at the beginning of the new league year, so he'll be cut before that date. Since the entire NFL knows how the Bills operate, nobody will offer them anything. Money ball. They’ve actually been the EXACT opposite in the Pegula era. The Bills don’t operate “cash to the cap” really. They have eaten a ton of real dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) 45 minutes ago, SoTier said: It doesn't matter. The Bills don't really care about the cap except when they can use it as an excuse to not re-sign their own players. They care about actual $$$ they spend. Taylor is due a bonus of several million at the beginning of the new league year, so he'll be cut before that date. Since the entire NFL knows how the Bills operate, nobody will offer them anything. Money ball. Have you been asleep for 4 years? 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: Here is what LaConjecture is hearing around the league: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/tyrod-taylor-will-be-a-prime-trade-chip-for-the-bills-in-the-offseason/ Bills fans think their opinion of Tyrod is widespread. The opposite is true. Most of the NFL seems him as an average QB in a league starved for average QB play. I would expect a 3rd round pick for him, some team that knows they can use his skill set to build a formidable offense. Edited November 19, 2017 by HappyDays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) On 11/15/2017 at 8:38 PM, TonyBeets said: Why would anyone trade for TT? Believe it or not the Bills actually traded a 5th rounder for Matt Cassel at one point...yeah, Matt freaking Cassel!!! Surely we can get something for Tyrod Edited November 19, 2017 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 THe whole idea of TT's contract is they literally can get out of it with minimal cap hit for a qb. I think a very late pick is possible....your trading to be able to have his rights and him not choosing where he wants to go.....but it would be a Marcel D. type pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 2 hours ago, SoTier said: It doesn't matter. The Bills don't really care about the cap except when they can use it as an excuse to not re-sign their own players. They care about actual $$$ they spend. Taylor is due a bonus of several million at the beginning of the new league year, so he'll be cut before that date. Since the entire NFL knows how the Bills operate, nobody will offer them anything. Money ball. This is completely wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Ian RapoportVerified account @RapSheet On #Bills QB Tyrod Taylor: Do not assume they decline Taylor's $6M option in 2018 and move on. His salary is manageable and they believe he'll have trade value, I'm told. Expect them to explore that market before making any moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 On 11/16/2017 at 7:48 AM, Buffalo30 said: Maybe not, but look at the bigger picture of the post...we will have at least 10 million more to work with if he's gone next year. However, I've seen Brock Osweiler get traded so...anything can happen I don't see the cap as being an issue next season , even with all the dead space. I think that's part of the plan, take the hit next year. We will have many rookies on the team next season after using all those draft picks, plus the 2nd year players from this years draft. Wouldn't be surprised if KW, McCoy and Glenn are also gone. No cap issues for a while with team in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted November 19, 2017 Author Share Posted November 19, 2017 1 hour ago, klos63 said: I don't see the cap as being an issue next season , even with all the dead space. I think that's part of the plan, take the hit next year. We will have many rookies on the team next season after using all those draft picks, plus the 2nd year players from this years draft. Wouldn't be surprised if KW, McCoy and Glenn are also gone. No cap issues for a while with team in my opinion. I don't expect him to be the starter...cutting him will allow them to use that space on other guys to keep rebuilding the roster. Never said we'd have cap trouble, I said we have an opportunity with all the potential cap space to bring in a lot of talent this offseason. Cutting Tyrod's contract would help that 4 hours ago, MAJBobby said: You have the 10M to work with if his option isnt picked up. He is not getting traded because every team in NFL and CFL and Highschool and College and Pop Warner know we are not picking up that option Name those QBs and dont use Osweiller because Houston gave picks not gained them Matt Flynn was traded by the Seahawks to the Raiders for two conditional draft picks on a bigger contact but the contract was reconstructed to complete the deal...something like this could certainly be an option. I'm not saying that they definitely will find a trade partner but it could happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 11 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said: I don't expect him to be the starter...cutting him will allow them to use that space on other guys to keep rebuilding the roster. Never said we'd have cap trouble, I said we have an opportunity with all the potential cap space to bring in a lot of talent this offseason. Cutting Tyrod's contract would help that Matt Flynn was traded by the Seahawks to the Raiders for two conditional draft picks on a bigger contact but the contract was reconstructed to complete the deal...something like this could certainly be an option. I'm not saying that they definitely will find a trade partner but it could happen. Flynn was NOT on an 18M contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted November 19, 2017 Author Share Posted November 19, 2017 2 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Flynn was NOT on an 18M contract. Never said he was man. Said he was traded and restructured at the same time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said: Never said he was man. Said he was traded and restructured at the same time... Yes but no team knee he was getting cut. The entire NFL knows TT is not getting his option picked up. Same teams that passed on him last year and why he redid his deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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