leonbus23 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) If they lose Sunday, then it would probably be better to lose out. But we will probably end up winning against the Fins once and the Colts. 7-9. If we win Sunday, then we have a real chance at the playoffs because we can beat the Fins twice and the Colts. Edited November 15, 2017 by leonbus23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, leonbus23 said: If they lose Sunday, then it would probably be better to lose out. But we will probably end up winning against the Fins once and the Colts. 7-9. If we win Sunday, then we have a real chance at the playoffs because we can beat the Fins twice and the Colts. Got a fair amount of young players as well as a fair amount of pride in the locker room. You want to win every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 4 hours ago, Cygnus99 said: Will it be better if the Bills lose the rest of the season and be 5-11 for better draft ? Of course that is not going to happen . Most of us know we will have another mediocre season and end up 7-9 or 8-8 and be out of the playoffs . We are going to win meaningless games like beating the colts and the Dolphins at Miami I would feel sad if we couldn't beat Miami. That would show how much this team fell from a 5-2 start. You will lose the locker room at that point. I do feel like we have a lot on the uptick. Just look at the Eagles last year, I feel like we are on the same trajectory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 46 minutes ago, dneveu said: It's more than Watson. They have missed on like everyone in the first round in the last bunch of drafts. Phil Taylor Trent Richardson Weeden Mingo Gilbert Manziel Shelton We've drafted one in 3 of the last 5 - considering you only carry 2 on the active roster that's a decent amount. Decent chance we draft another one this year giving us 1 in each of the last 3 years. And we still have no Franchise QB, time to draft another, Rudolph or Falk would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 4 hours ago, Cygnus99 said: Will it be better if the Bills lose the rest of the season and be 5-11 for better draft ? Of course that is not going to happen . Most of us know we will have another mediocre season and end up 7-9 or 8-8 and be out of the playoffs . We are going to win meaningless games like beating the colts and the Dolphins at Miami I cant believe people actually are responding to this. You are a fan? Or you just trolling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 52 minutes ago, dneveu said: Well we at least got rid of most of the non-fits in year 1 instead of slowly phasing them out. What the Bills did was shed talent and 2017 payroll, and they used the claim that they didn't "fit" McDermott's "skill set" as their excuse. I actually heard some analyst on tv -- it might have been before/during the Thursday night fiasco against the Jests -- actually say that Woods, Watkins, and Goodwin were all gone because they didn't have the "skill set" the Bills "needed". What "skill set" was that exactly? Apparently Beane and McDermott don't see talent as being a need because the Bills are quickly descending into the talentless depths most recently occupied by Indy and Cleveland ... and the Jauron era Bills. What veterans are left on the team that have any proven talent? Shady, Glenn, Benjamin, and Clay. Since there were so many rumors earlier first about Shady and then later about Glenn being traded, I would not at all be surprised to see them both gone before the beginning of next season, probably swapped for draft picks so that the Bills can draft their shiny new Savior QB and keep the fans excited at least until he looks awful because he has crappy coaching, no protection, and few targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, SoTier said: What the Bills did was shed talent and 2017 payroll, and they used the claim that they didn't "fit" McDermott's "skill set" as their excuse. I actually heard some analyst on tv -- it might have been before/during the Thursday night fiasco against the Jests -- actually say that Woods, Watkins, and Goodwin were all gone because they didn't have the "skill set" the Bills "needed". What "skill set" was that exactly? Apparently Beane and McDermott don't see talent as being a need because the Bills are quickly descending into the talentless depths most recently occupied by Indy and Cleveland ... and the Jauron era Bills. What veterans are left on the team that have any proven talent? Shady, Glenn, Benjamin, and Clay. Since there were so many rumors earlier first about Shady and then later about Glenn being traded, I would not at all be surprised to see them both gone before the beginning of next season, probably swapped for draft picks so that the Bills can draft their shiny new Savior QB and keep the fans excited at least until he looks awful because he has crappy coaching, no protection, and few targets. Woods and Goodwin were UFAs. Its not like we just cut them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 4 hours ago, Cygnus99 said: Will it be better if the Bills lose the rest of the season and be 5-11 for better draft ? Of course that is not going to happen . Most of us know we will have another mediocre season and end up 7-9 or 8-8 and be out of the playoffs . We are going to win meaningless games like beating the colts and the Dolphins at Miami Yes, losing every year is the best way to build a winning team.......Bills and Sabres are perfect examples...hoping Sabres finish last again...Buffalo sports are so much fun to watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, dneveu said: Woods and Goodwin were UFAs. Its not like we just cut them. They could have signed one of them. They chose not to. They also chose to let Gilmore and Gillislee walk. Then they started holding a fire sale via trades. They started peddling Dareus so early and often that I'm shocked that they even got a sixth rounder for him; most observers were sure that teams would just wait until they cut him in the off season. Marrone must have really, really wanted ol' #99 ... and he'll probably blossom in Jax. Meanwhile, the Bills have loaded up their roster with JAGs, STers, PS refugees, and some rookies. Cleveland isn't the only team playing moneyball. 11 minutes ago, nucci said: Yes, losing every year is the best way to build a winning team.......Bills and Sabres are perfect examples...hoping Sabres finish last again...Buffalo sports are so much fun to watch Well, according to at least one poster, since we should be grateful that we don't live in Syria, we should be happy to continue to support perennial losers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Not now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 7 minutes ago, SoTier said: They could have signed one of them. They chose not to. They also chose to let Gilmore and Gillislee walk. Then they started holding a fire sale via trades. They started peddling Dareus so early and often that I'm shocked that they even got a sixth rounder for him; most observers were sure that teams would just wait until they cut him in the off season. Marrone must have really, really wanted ol' #99 ... and he'll probably blossom in Jax. Meanwhile, the Bills have loaded up their roster with JAGs, STers, PS refugees, and some rookies. Cleveland isn't the only team playing moneyball. Well, according to at least one poster, since we should be grateful that we don't live in Syria, we should be happy to continue to support perennial losers. You can't make someone sign here - and i wouldn't have given woods or goodwin those contracts based on their production here. Gilmore didn't want to play here so it was tag or he walks. Gillislee would've been the highest paid backup RB in the league, on a team with the highest paid starting RB in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 11 minutes ago, SoTier said: Well, according to at least one poster, since we should be grateful that we don't live in Syria, we should be happy to continue to support perennial losers. Ha, nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talley56 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 As bad as the AFC is this year, 8-8 might actually get us in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonbus23 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 2 hours ago, dneveu said: Got a fair amount of young players as well as a fair amount of pride in the locker room. You want to win every game. I agree. Players are not going to tank. But in terms of a higher draft pick, if we lost all the rest, it would be better. So, if we lose Sunday, I will still cheer for the Bills to win every game. But in the back of my mind, I know it is better if we lose the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 18 minutes ago, leonbus23 said: I agree. Players are not going to tank. But in terms of a higher draft pick, if we lost all the rest, it would be better. So, if we lose Sunday, I will still cheer for the Bills to win every game. But in the back of my mind, I know it is better if we lose the rest. and please tell me when does this end? Seems this is the conversation every year....it's always next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Why would we want to lose even more? That doesn't help build a culture for a new head coach. They are trying to do it right which is win while you are rebuilding. I absolutely think this is the goal that has been set by them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Ill never get Bills fans. This year is the best chance to mke the playoffs since 04 and your coach just pissed it away and everyone is happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 2 hours ago, mead107 said: Not now Win baby Win!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, artmalibu said: Then KC and New England are going to happen. Which is OK as long as the Bills beat the chargers. If they lose to KC and Pats, then they need to beat Dolphins 2x and Colts to ensure at least 9 wins. The other main competitor is the Ravens who need to lose to the Pack, Lions, and Steelers to give them 8 losses. They end against Colts and Bengals. Holy Crap! Next time I better look at TSW before responding to a post. Peterman IN! Wow! I have to believe one reason McD is doing it is because it's not really going to be like a road game. I seriously doubt he would've thrown Peterman in if it was KC. Edited November 15, 2017 by TPS new info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Without a true run stuffer they were going to lose of the season with or without Tyrod. Maybe they win one game if they can't stop the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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