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Longtime NFL Scout Says Taylor Is "Below Average QB"


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Just now, dulles said:

I would agree with you on those points...I am just a "slow change at QB" kinda guy.  You can't go Hue Jackson on the starting QB situation without getting into trouble in a hurry. 

I do like Peterman's apparent command of the offense.  I heard that he had been working on 2-minute offense during the week.  Evidently he audibled at the line.  He threw some dangerous passes.  He threw guys open.  There was a lot to like.

I hear you but a seven year vet and a 3 year starter getting benched doesn't equate to a fast change to me. What I still don't get is Tyrod is a known commoditty at this point. If you are going to have him run this offense then you have to let him loose and let him run and use his athleticism. Even in Carolina Cam was struggling and is considered a franchise guy that is getting paid and they are now having him running arond a lot the last couple of weeks because it helps their team win. Apparently the Bills would rather lose the way they want to play then win ugly by doing things that don't appeal to their system.

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Just now, Rocbillsfan1 said:

I hear you but a seven year vet and a 3 year starter getting benched doesn't equate to a fast change to me. What I still don't get is Tyrod is a known commoditty at this point. If you are going to have him run this offense then you have to let him loose and let him run and use his athleticism. Even in Carolina Cam was struggling and is considered a franchise guy that is getting paid and they are now having him running arond a lot the last couple of weeks because it helps their team win. Apparently the Bills would rather lose the way they want to play then win ugly by doing things that don't appeal to their system.

I agree that it is not a fast change, but if Peterman doesn't pan out, you have egg on your face and you can't really go back to TT.  Your "Process" and every other shred of credibility is gone.  Now you have deeper issues.  With that said, I think the time is drawing near...it might not be this week, but within a month for sure.  

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4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Says the guy with Fitzpatrick as part of his TBD name.  :thumbsup:

If Fitz had half the physical talent as Tyrod, he would be a top 12 qb in the league. At least Fitz understood that there were receivers on the field and if you trust them

to make plays, they can move the ball. Fitz trusted his guys to much at times and just didn’t have the arm to get it there, but all things considered I would still take him any day over Tyrod. Those defenses were the problem with Gaileys team. Not fitz. And you talk about lack of WR talent? Look at the trash Fitz had to throw to. Donald Jones and T.J. Graham were #2 WRs. Tyrod had Watkins, Woods, Mathews, Benjamin, Goodwin. 

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3 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Everybody always says it was the cardinals knock out that ruined Trent. It wasn’t. If you look, then next week he played one of his best games ever. It was the following game against Cleveland that he got picked off like 3 times real early on Monday night. He took shots and got picked. After that he was scared to death to throw it down field. THATS what ruined him. Not the hit IMO

I know I was at that game but concussions are no joke and that was a bad one. He had one anomily game the next week at home against a mediocre SD team coming from the west coast and playing at one o clock. His whole career was terrible after that and he even couldn't hold down a backup spot in the NFL for too long. He showed enough before that in his career to lead me to believe that his brain and his quickness never really came back the way it was.

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Just now, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

If Fitz had half the physical talent as Tyrod, he would be a top 12 qb in the league. At least Fitz understood that their were receivers on the field and if you trust them

to make plays, they can move the ball. Fitz trusted his guys to much at times and just didn’t have the arm to get it there, but all things considered I would still take him any day over Tyrod. Those defenses were the problem with Gaileys team. Not fitz. And you talk about lack of WR talent? Look at the trash Fitz had to throw to. Donald Jones and T.J. Graham were #2 WRs. Tyrod had Watkins, Woods, Mathews, Benjamin, Goodwin. 

 

:lol: Sure he would.  He's a choikng dog. 

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1 minute ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

If Fitz had half the physical talent as Tyrod, he would be a top 12 qb in the league. At least Fitz understood that their were receivers on the field and if you trust them

to make plays, they can move the ball. Fitz trusted his guys to much at times and just didn’t have the arm to get it there, but all things considered I would still take him any day over Tyrod. Those defenses were the problem with Gaileys team. Not fitz. And you talk about lack of WR talent? Look at the trash Fitz had to throw to. Donald Jones and T.J. Graham were #2 WRs. Tyrod had Watkins, Woods, Mathews, Benjamin, Goodwin. 

You forget McCoy as a RB and Clay as a TE. Tyrod has had the most weapons then any other QB in the playoff drought and he can't even crack a 300 yard passing game. SAD.

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31 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said:

Everyone who wants Peterman to see the field (myself included) is on that train because we know what we have in Tyrod Taylor. And it's not good enough. For those who argue Taylor starts because coaches believe he gives the team the best chance to win, there was another QB in New England who rode the bench for over a year for the same reason. Bill Belichek thought Drew Bledsoe gave the team the best chance to win and then Mo Lewis proved him wrong. Nobody knows anything, give Peterman the reins, if he bombs, we're in position to draft high. If he succeeds, draft competition for him and thank our lucky stars.

I jave been wanting Petterman to play since the draft. 2 years of TT showed me enough. That said I thought I mighy be wrong about TT......nope I was right.

2 minutes ago, White Linen said:

I would take Tyrod as a back up in a second.

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1 minute ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

If Fitz was the qb in this current West Coast offense with Benjamin, Mathews McCoy and Clay, no doubt we are going to the playoffs. I understand that’s my opinion and there is no way to prove it. I just think he fits this offense great...No pun intended 

 

He had a chance to take the NYJ to the playoffs in 2015.  What happened?  Peanut Butter Sandwich with Sand.......Choke!!!

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14 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

If Fitz had half the physical talent as Tyrod, he would be a top 12 qb in the league. At least Fitz understood that there were receivers on the field and if you trust them

to make plays, they can move the ball. Fitz trusted his guys to much at times and just didn’t have the arm to get it there, but all things considered I would still take him any day over Tyrod. Those defenses were the problem with Gaileys team. Not fitz. And you talk about lack of WR talent? Look at the trash Fitz had to throw to. Donald Jones and T.J. Graham were #2 WRs. Tyrod had Watkins, Woods, Mathews, Benjamin, Goodwin. 

I'm looking forward to what Tyrod can (can't?) do with a real quality receiving corps. If everyone gets/stays healthy, he'll have:

- Clay: not great, but certainly a top 10 ball catching TE

- McCoy: one of the best receiving threats out of the backfield in football

- Matthews: a quality #2 receiver for several years

- Benjamin: a quality #1 receiver for several years

- Zay Jones: a highly rated rookie who showed signs of figuring out the game at the NFL level just before getting injured

It'll be no excuses time for Tyrod. These guys - or at least 1 or 2 of them every play - WILL get open. Can Tyrod find/hit them? We'll see.

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2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

He had a chance to take the NYJ to the playoffs in 2015.  What happened?  Peanut Butter Sandwich with Sand.......Choke!!!

Which year has Tyrod made it to week 17 with a chance? Or had double digit wins? Or thrown for 300 yds in regulation? Or beaten the Pats with Brady? Or gotten chances to start for multiple teams? Or made a single audible at the line? 

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Tyrod is a coach killer. He teases you because of his athleticism, and he is likeable. You are always thinking if just.......I've been enticed at times, but I'm officially off the train. Actually started last year with the feeling. Time to move on before its too late.

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37 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said:

 

Gabriel does come off as a know it all sometimes, yet there could be a reason why he's never held a position higher than scouting and there could be a reason why he's unemployed.

 

 

With that take on TT, you would think any team would snap up such a savant.

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