jethro_tull Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 trading dareus was the last contradiction to "win now" that the players could overlook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, dpberr said: I think the offense has lost faith in Dennison and his reluctance to deviate from the "his" blocking scheme no matter how ineffective it is. Same old, same old. The OLine was fine today. Not even on the Top 10 list of reasons why the Bills lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 How disgusted must Kelvin Benjamin be about being here? Leave Cam Newton and a team with a shot for a QB that doesn’t even realize receivers are on the field. I’m sure he’s going to buy in and work hard...The guy will probably get a fake injury and beg to not have his option picked up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, Brianmoorman4jesus said: How disgusted must Kelvin Benjamin be about being here? Leave Cam Newton and a team with a shot for a QB that doesn’t even realize receivers are on the field. I’m sure he’s going to buy in and work hard...The guy will probably get a fake injury and beg to not have his option picked up. He's probably on the phone crying to his agent right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 25 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said: Probably to help mentor some younger players that they will bring next offseason. His experience will help some young kid out I'm sure. A very expensive mentor. I can't see how his experience helps another player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, vincec said: He's probably on the phone crying to his agent right now. Hopefully he’s on the phone with the HC telling him to put Peterman in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, Buffalo30 said: That's why we need to give the regime time to get players that fit the scheme in the building but we never do because we are too impatient Do you think they were too impatient with Rex? Not having players for his scheme was Rex's excuse. I think he was going to fail anyway but if it's just about being patient then they should have been patient with him. Adapting systems to the talent on hand is the prudent path.........it's not like these schemes McD and Dennison run are game changers.........they are pretty simple.......which is why the team was able to adapt to them pretty quickly. But once teams get tapes on the personnel in these new schemes........you need the talent to keep them working and the Bills have been careless with the talent in-house and there appears to be a lot of frustration and business decisions going on out there.........which is worst-case scenario for someone trying to change the quitting culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 47 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said: It's a rebuilding project that will take a few years. We have an old roster and these coaches inherited most of it...I just don't understand the constant turnover mindset and how it would be good for the franchise to not allow this regime to have a couple of years to build something. They haven't had a chance to get their guys on the roster? It's still been less than a year... There’s absolutely no reason this needed to be a multi year rebuild. Fans went hook line and sinker on a narrative about how bad the cap was.... we now also believe that every young talent was a cancer... it’s ridiculous. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 15 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: The defense isn't playing in a vacuum. They see the inept offense and the quarterback who checks down on 3rd and 15 to the 300 pound running back surrounded by defenders 10 yards shy of the first down marker. The defense had buried itself before they even had time to see what Tyrod was doing. This was a lot like that flexed game against the Patriots in their 18-1 season where they scored 8 straight TD's to start the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, NoSaint said: There’s absolutely no reason this needed to be a multi year rebuild. Fans went hook line and sinker on a narrative about how bad the cap was.... we now also believe that every young talent was a cancer... it’s ridiculous. "Signability" NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 minute ago, jmc12290 said: "Signability" NoSaint It’ll sound snarky but a genuine point here— there are very few fans on this board that have closely watched a successful team week in and week out, year in and year out, in the salary cap era. Most are so used to hearing they can’t afford talented players, when the truth is that this is a league where you need a few explosive stars to even start to compete consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: There’s absolutely no reason this needed to be a multi year rebuild. Fans went hook line and sinker on a narrative about how bad the cap was.... we now also believe that every young talent was a cancer... it’s ridiculous. This is where the parallels to Jauron continue. Despite not technically drafting awfully bad Jauron decimated the roster with bad decisions on players acquired by the previous regime..........whom he used most of his draft picks to replace......causing a lack of progress. And then when Buddy Nix came in he basically had the excuse that the roster was barren. Nix rebuilt the lines......Whaley added some playmakers on offense..........and rather than running with what he had and giving himself a fighting chance.......McD is misguidedly deconstructing it all like he has an unlimited amount of time to rebuild. And he doesn't. Terry Pegula has proven that he will give his regimes the freedom to do what they want......likely in deference to his cluelessness wrt pro sports......... but he has proven that he will hold them accountable. I don't get any sense that they are going to turn into the Ford or Brown families and tolerate failure or mediocrity for much more than a couple seasons at a time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: It’ll sound snarky but a genuine point here— there are very few fans on this board that have closely watched a successful team week in and week out, year in and year out, in the salary cap era. Most are so used to hearing they can’t afford talented players, when the truth is that this is a league where you need a few explosive stars to even start to compete consistently. Great point. Almost all playoff caliber NFC and AFC teams have highly paid and highly productive/talented players on both sides of the ball. Our most productive star on defense is probably Tre White or Hyde. We don't even have a star pass rusher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 15 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: The defense had buried itself before they even had time to see what Tyrod was doing. Oh please. It was 7-3 in the second quarter when Tyrod did his first Edwards impression by checking down to Tubby Tolbert on 3rd and long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) 23 minutes ago, NoSaint said: There’s absolutely no reason this needed to be a multi year rebuild. Fans went hook line and sinker on a narrative about how bad the cap was.... we now also believe that every young talent was a cancer... it’s ridiculous. The Bills could have re-signed Woods, picked up Watkins option, and drafted Watson. Sure, they might have had to overpay Woods, and Watkins option would have stressed the salary cap, and who knows if Watson would have suffered the same injury with the Bills, but what you would rather have right now: Deshaun Watson throwing to Watkins and Woods with Shady running against light fronts, or the "process?" The fact that the Bills are again run by a front office who lacks the foresight to identify talent at key positions is frustrating. Edited November 13, 2017 by Perry Turtle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 9 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Oh please. It was 7-3 in the second quarter when Tyrod did his first Edwards impression by checking down to Tubby Tolbert on 3rd and long. Taylor was horrible today. No doubt about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) 19 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: if a player is traded the narrative from fans is "Another Whaley mistake". Many of those Whaley "mistakes" are starting for other teams right now. But hey, at least they got a couple of subway tokens for them. Edited November 13, 2017 by vincec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 36 minutes ago, klos63 said: A very expensive mentor. I can't see how his experience helps another player. I'm sure they will get out of his contract when he is replaced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, ScottLaw said: That's why the Saints ran it ALL DAY down our throats? Because Taylor was sucking? Im missing the logic. He's saying it's demoralizing for a defense when the offense looks lifeless. How could anyone disagree with that? Has anyone watched Denver? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Pegula's teams really quit on their coaches quickly when the going gets tough... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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