2018 Mock drafts and top prospects

[Buffalo Barbarian]

Would love Oklahoma TE Mark Andrews 6'5" 255  to with Mayfield here.

[Kirby Jackson]

4 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Who? What?

 

[Cripple Creek]

11 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

We talk a lot about prospects that we like but Parris Campbell in the 2nd would be a blessing. He is so, so explosive.

Rich man's Percy Harvin?

[Kirby Jackson]

Just now, Cripple Creek said:

Rich man's Percy Harvin?

That’s actually a pretty good comparison. Harvin was a little thicker but they both outrun angles. The Bills need some playmaking. Last year Beane took McCaffrey and Samuel who are both comparable. I actually think Campbell is a little more explosive than both of them (but a little less polished). 

[Cripple Creek]

10 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

That’s actually a pretty good comparison. Harvin was a little thicker but they both outrun angles. The Bills need some playmaking. Last year Beane took McCaffrey and Samuel who are both comparable. I actually think Campbell is a little more explosive than both of them (but a little less polished). 

Because of the system and what he is asked to do? Can't be practice time (injuries aside) because he's had plenty of that.

[Kirby Jackson]

13 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said:

Because of the system and what he is asked to do? Can't be practice time (injuries aside) because he's had plenty of that.

He doesn’t have a ton of experience. This is really his first year as a featured guy. At the same time Campbell ran a 4.3 at 13 years-old and was a basketball star as well. 

[Cripple Creek]

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

He doesn’t have a ton of experience. This is really his first year as a featured guy. At the same time Campbell ran a 4.3 at 13 years-old and was a basketball star as well. 

I guess that depends on how you define experience. He's been in there 4 years. That's a ton of time to perfect his craft.  But, Meyer's job is winning college games not preparing players for the NFL so maybe he does have room to grow.

[Kirby Jackson]

30 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said:

I guess that depends on how you define experience. He's been in there 4 years. That's a ton of time to perfect his craft.  But, Meyer's job is winning college games not preparing players for the NFL so maybe he does have room to grow.

It’s funny because I saw a mock this morning that had us taking him in the 3rd. He is a guy that I could see rising a lot in the offseason though because he will test off the charts. I’m not sure that he’s an every down player but he can be a dangerous weapon and hit some of the home runs that we can’t hit. 

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[thunderingsquid]

4 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Vea is a man's man and can be available when we pick.

[The Now Moment]

On 12/2/2017 at 8:57 PM, Kirby Jackson said:

We talk a lot about prospects that we like but Parris Campbell in the 2nd would be a blessing. He is so, so explosive.

Thing I am not so sure about is he hasn't seem a lot of action on the field.  Only two years of play and really not very productive for the first one.  I like him though.  

[thenorthremembers]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said:

Thing I am not so sure about is he hasn't seem a lot of action on the field.  Only two years of play and really not very productive for the first one.  I like him though.  

 

He may not have a lot of on field action, but man can the kid play special teams.   What really stands out to me with him aside from his speed is how good of a blocker he is. 

[The Now Moment]

If we decide to take a tight end...I'm all aboard the Dallas Goedert train.  He reminds me of some of the best tight ends in the game with his catching ability. Outta San Diego State but he is a modern day receiving tight end.  He could be a really nice security blanket for a young QB.  Clay may be here...he may not.  Even if he is, Dallas Goedert could be a nice tight end to pair with a rookie.  I think he has the potential to be like a Gronk type receiving threat if used properly.  

[Kirby Jackson]

5 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said:

Thing I am not so sure about is he hasn't seem a lot of action on the field.  Only two years of play and really not very productive for the first one.  I like him though.  

Yeah, it is a little risk reward. He could be Tyreke Hill though (minus the domestic violence). That crossing route he took the other day, he just outran the angles. He does that a lot. He has an extra gear.

1 minute ago, Buffalo30 said:

If we decide to take a tight end...I'm all aboard the Dallas Goedert train.  He reminds me of some of the best tight ends in the game with his catching ability. Outta San Diego State but he is a modern day receiving tight end.  He could be a really nice security blanket for a young QB.  Clay may be here...he may not.  Even if he is, Dallas Goedert could be a nice tight end to pair with a rookie.  I think he has the potential to be like a Gronk type receiving threat if used properly.  

Kiper has him as his top TE.

[The Now Moment]

Just now, thenorthremembers said:

 

He may not have a lot of on field action, but man can the kid play special teams.   What really stands out to me with him aside from his speed is how good of a blocker he is. 

I think he will be a great player eventually.  I'm just wondering if McD would take a guy who is technically only a sophomore.  That being said, he is exactly what this offense needs.  It needs a guy with flat out speed.  One that can stretch the field and one you want to give the ball in space to.  He is that no question

1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Yeah, it is a little risk reward. He could be Tyreke Hill though (minus the domestic violence). That crossing route he took the other day, he just outran the angles. He does that a lot. He has an extra gear.

Kiper has him as his top TE.

I'd certainly take him.  But how high?  As for Dallas, if he slips into the second round...that would be tough to pass up.  Or even if we end up with a late first. Especially if we draft a QB 1st.

[Kirby Jackson]

11 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said:

I think he will be a great player eventually.  I'm just wondering if McD would take a guy who is technically only a sophomore.  That being said, he is exactly what this offense needs.  It needs a guy with flat out speed.  One that can stretch the field and one you want to give the ball in space to.  He is that no question

I'd certainly take him.  But how high?  As for Dallas, if he slips into the second round...that would be tough to pass up.  Or even if we end up with a late first. Especially if we draft a QB 1st.

I’m thinking Campbell is a late 2 or 3. I saw a mock recently that actually projected him to the Bills in the 3rd. My guess is that he climbs some during the testing though because he will be fast. They timed him at a 4.3 at age 13!!

[The Now Moment]

3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I’m thinking Campbell is a late 2 or 3. I saw a mock recently that actually projected him to the Bills in the 3rd. My guess is that he climbs some during the testing though because he will be fast. They timed him at a 4.3 at age 13!!

Yeah I could see him going in the middle of the second.  He could be a target.  If they grab a QB, I expect them to snag some sort of weapon in the second round for him.  Campell could be the guy or Dallas Goedert in my opinion. Campell does give the added bonus of special teams but Goedert looks like the next Gronk in terms of production...both should be in our sights

[Kirby Jackson]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said:

Yeah I could see him going in the middle of the second.  He could be a target.  If they grab a QB, I expect them to snag some sort of weapon in the second round for him.  Campell could be the guy or Dallas Goedert in my opinion. Campell does give the added bonus of special teams but Goedert looks like the next Gronk in terms of production...both should be in our sights

I would agree with that. I always try to look at the GM’s history too. He drafted big bodied pass catchers early in Olsen and Benjamin and weapon types in McCaffrey and Samuel. I could see those guys as options. 

[The Now Moment]

4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I would agree with that. I always try to look at the GM’s history too. He drafted big bodied pass catchers early in Olsen and Benjamin and weapon types in McCaffrey and Samuel. I could see those guys as options. 

Agreed.  I just like Goebert a lot haha.  He reminds me of the Kelce's and the Gronk's of the tight end world.  He can truly catch the ball and be an important weapon for a rookie QB.  Both would be a nice thing to have for a rookie QB.  

[BuffaloHokie13]

Also a chance that the Pegs like Mike Gesicki I'd imagine. Though he'd obviously be more of a late day 2 early day 3 pick.

[JohnC]

I'm assuming and hoping that the Bills use their first pick on a qb. After that I think that the wrestling coach will be more inclined to address the defense, line and LBs, before using a high pick on a receiver. Another receiver can be added to the mix through free agency. The biggest question for this team is how many draft assets is the franchise going to use to select a qb. If the Bills are able to get a qb of their choice without using many assets then there are so many more options with our draft strategy.  

[GunnerBill]

On 12/3/2017 at 1:24 PM, Kirby Jackson said:

That’s actually a pretty good comparison. Harvin was a little thicker but they both outrun angles. The Bills need some playmaking. Last year Beane took McCaffrey and Samuel who are both comparable. I actually think Campbell is a little more explosive than both of them (but a little less polished). 

 

Oh god no then.  Percy Harvin is one of the most overrated NFL players of the 21st century.  For most of his career he just wasn't very..... well.... you know..... good.  

[Kirby Jackson]

38 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Oh god no then.  Percy Harvin is one of the most overrated NFL players of the 21st century.  For most of his career he just wasn't very..... well.... you know..... good.  

Percy Harvin at Florida

[thunderingsquid]

It's sad that I can't wait for April now.  

 

17: R1P17

 

EDGE ARDEN KEY

LSU

25: R1P25

 

QB DREW LOCK

MISSOURI

49: R2P17

 

G BILLY PRICE

OHIO STATE

60: R2P28

 

DL TAVEN BRYAN

FLORIDA

93: R3P29

 

RB JOSH ADAMS

NOTRE DAME

119: R4P17

 

OT TIMON PARRIS

STONY BROOK

155: R5P17

 

WR DANTE PETTIS

WASHINGTON

162: R5P24

 

S VAN SMITH

CLEMSON

[Woodman19]

3 QB's went off the board in the top 4 and nothing else was worth taking without being an overreach.

 

17: R1P17

 

EDGE AUSTIN BRYANT

CLEMSON

25: R1P25

 

WR CALVIN RIDLEY

ALABAMA

49: R2P17

 

LB MALIK JEFFERSON

TEXAS

60: R2P28

 

RB NICK CHUBB

GEORGIA

93: R3P29

 

C MASON COLE

MICHIGAN

119: R4P17

 

EDGE CHAD THOMAS

MIAMI (FL)

155: R5P17

 

OT DAVID BRIGHT

STANFORD

162: R5P24

 

DL JERRY TILLERY

NOTRE DAME

[Billsfansinceday1]

9 hours ago, Woodman19 said:

3 QB's went off the board in the top 4 and nothing else was worth taking without being an overreach.

 

17: R1P17

 

EDGE AUSTIN BRYANT

CLEMSON

25: R1P25

 

WR CALVIN RIDLEY

ALABAMA

49: R2P17

 

LB MALIK JEFFERSON

TEXAS

60: R2P28

 

RB NICK CHUBB

GEORGIA

93: R3P29

 

C MASON COLE

MICHIGAN

119: R4P17

 

EDGE CHAD THOMAS

MIAMI (FL)

155: R5P17

 

OT DAVID BRIGHT

STANFORD

162: R5P24

 

DL JERRY TILLERY

NOTRE DAME

Can any of these guys throw a football?

[Woodman19]

1 hour ago, Billsfansinceday1 said:

Can any of these guys throw a football?

Nope, I would have traded up for one if I could have

[Woodman19]

My mock was difficult because the Sim was gobbling up all QB's and skill positions so I had to dig deep to take the best raw upside in positions of need in less sexy parts. 

 

Bryant: Very high upside big run stopper for the D-Line

 

Ridley: (my best pick IMO) gets you a speed receiver with great route discipline and toughness but average size.

 

Jefferson: raw athletic coverage LB that we so badly need.

 

Chubb: wasn't looking RB here but couldn't let him pass.  3 down all purpose back.  Would give you a 2 headed monster and heir for McCoy once he is gone.

 

Cole: versatile, good technique OL. Can play anywhere in the middle (Wood replacement?) And a good pass blocker.

 

Thomas:. Piece of athletic clay for McDermott to mould into a gem.  Great raw tools and size, boom or bust raw talent.

 

Bright: good run blocking tackle who needs to add weight, I think he could be a dominant guard especially next to someone like Cole.

 

Tillery: Big, strong DT with good penetration.  Adds depth to line.

 

I should note that I would have taken Mike White if we keep our 7th, basically another Peterman type smart accurate QB with questions on arm strength.

 

[BuffaloHokie13]

17: R1P17  
QB MASON RUDOLPH
OKLAHOMA STATE

 

25: R1P25  
WR CALVIN RIDLEY
ALABAMA

 

49: R2P17  
G ISAIAH WYNN
GEORGIA

 

60: R2P28  
DL DA'RON PAYNE
ALABAMA

 

93: R3P29  
LB OREN BURKS
VANDERBILT

 

119: R4P17  
RB RASHAAD PENNY
SAN DIEGO STATE

 

155: R5P17  
EDGE CHAD THOMAS
MIAMI

 

162: R5P24  
S DOMINICK SANDERS
GEORGIA

[thunderingsquid]

That's a beaut, Hokie. 

 

I'm telling you, these 4 picks in the first 2 rounds may reshape our franchise for years.

 

There are so many good players in the first two rounds, if we play our cards right we can have impactful starters for years. 

[BuffaloHokie13]

1 hour ago, thunderingsquid said:

That's a beaut, Hokie. 

 

I'm telling you, these 4 picks in the first 2 rounds may reshape our franchise for years.

 

There are so many good players in the first two rounds, if we play our cards right we can have impactful starters for years. 

I actually think ILB might be right up there with QB for our FO's wish list. Something tells me McD really misses having Keuchly as the QB of his D. Would not be surprised at all if Roquon Smith, Micah Kiser, or Oren Burks are major targets. Kiser is especially intriguing. As for later round options, maybe Kendall Joseph from Clemson.

Edited December 7, 2017 by BuffaloHokie13

[26CornerBlitz]

Round 1, Pick No. 17: QB Mason Rudolph, Oklahoma State

25. Buffalo Bills (from KC) | Maurice Hurst | DL | Michigan

Round 2, Pick No. 49: LB Tegray Scales, Indiana

Round 2, Pick No. 60 (from LAR): WR Anthony Miller, Memphis

Round 3, Pick No. 93 (from PHI): CB M.J. Stewart, North Carolina

Round 4, Pick No. 113: RB Bo Scarbrough, Alabama

[BuffaloHokie13]

5 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

Round 1, Pick No. 17: QB Mason Rudolph, Oklahoma State

25. Buffalo Bills (from KC) | Maurice Hurst | DL | Michigan

Round 2, Pick No. 49: LB Tegray Scales, Indiana

Round 2, Pick No. 60 (from LAR): WR Anthony Miller, Memphis

Round 3, Pick No. 93 (from PHI): CB M.J. Stewart, North Carolina

Round 4, Pick No. 113: RB Bo Scarbrough, Alabama

I like 2 of the 5...  Rudolph & Miller. Although I think it's a bit too high for Rudolph, but don't risk it with QB.

I don't mind Mo Hurst, but I think he's smaller than McD likes his DTs

I need to watch more film on Scales, but he's not my preference at 49 at the moment

[Woodman19]

2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

Round 1, Pick No. 17: QB Mason Rudolph, Oklahoma State

25. Buffalo Bills (from KC) | Maurice Hurst | DL | Michigan

Round 2, Pick No. 49: LB Tegray Scales, Indiana

Round 2, Pick No. 60 (from LAR): WR Anthony Miller, Memphis

Round 3, Pick No. 93 (from PHI): CB M.J. Stewart, North Carolina

Round 4, Pick No. 113: RB Bo Scarbrough, Alabama

Yes, you get a toolsy QB prospect, some help on the DL and LB and some skill players that are badly needed for depth.

[thunderingsquid]

I finally found my best case scenario draft:

 

17: R1P17

 

G QUENTON NELSON

NOTRE DAME

25: R1P25

 

EDGE ARDEN KEY

LSU

49: R2P17

 

QB MASON RUDOLPH

OKLAHOMA STATE

60: R2P28

 

DL DA'RON PAYNE

ALABAMA

93: R3P29

 

OT GERON CHRISTIAN

LOUISVILLE

119: R4P17

 

WR ANTONIO CALLAWAY

FLORIDA

155: R5P17

 

LB DAVIN BELLAMY

GEORGIA

162: R5P24

 

RB AKRUM WADLEY

IOWA

[26CornerBlitz]

Who's going to be the No. 1 pick in the NFL draft? (4:12)

Mike Greenberg, Mel Kiper Jr. and Todd McShay weigh in on which college QBs will top the draft boards in 2018.

[JohnC]

16 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

Who's going to be the No. 1 pick in the NFL draft? (4:12)

 

When qbs are discussed about this draft class I've come to the harden conclusion that there is no excuse for this failed organization not to make an aggressive move to come away with their future franchise qb. Even if our most preferred qb or two are not available that doesn't mean that this regime still can't secure a quality option. If the McBeane duo take the Levy/Jauron conservative approach to the draft they will deservedly be scorned. 

[OldTimer1960]

19 hours ago, JohnC said:

When qbs are discussed about this draft class I've come to the harden conclusion that there is no excuse for this failed organization not to make an aggressive move to come away with their future franchise qb. Even if our most preferred qb or two are not available that doesn't mean that this regime still can't secure a quality option. If the McBeane duo take the Levy/Jauron conservative approach to the draft they will deservedly be scorned. 

There has to be a quality option to take or there is a reason not to take a QB.  Just because we want to believe that this is a deep and talented QB class, does not necessarily make it so.

 

if none of Rosen, Darnold, Jackson or Mayfield are available, I think we may be out of luck and have to take a desperation shot on someone else later in the draft.

[JohnC]

23 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

There has to be a quality option to take or there is a reason not to take a QB.  Just because we want to believe that this is a deep and talented QB class, does not necessarily make it so.

 

if none of Rosen, Darnold, Jackson or Mayfield are available, I think we may be out of luck and have to take a desperation shot on someone else later in the draft.

The Bills have more high draft picks to parlay than most teams. This draft class has more qbs that will probably be taken in the first round than most years. This team has been stuck  in the middle with a 7-9 to 9-7 during its ignominious drought that has lasted for more than a generation. I'm not advocating for a stupid reach on a prospect that will  have little chance to succeed. The Bills have the wherewithal and they need to use it to accomplish what needs to be accomplished. This year, I'm not accepting excuses. 

[OldTimer1960]

15 minutes ago, JohnC said:

The Bills have more high draft picks to parlay than most teams. This draft class has more qbs that will probably be taken in the first round than most years. This team has been stuck  in the middle with a 7-9 to 9-7 during its ignominious drought that has lasted for more than a generation. I'm not advocating for a stupid reach on a prospect that will  have little chance to succeed. The Bills have the wherewithal and they need to use it to accomplish what needs to be accomplished. This year, I'm not accepting excuses. 

They do have extra pick in rounds 1&2.  Let's say that they end up with the 15th and 20th picks in round 1 - (could end up higher or lower depending how they and KC finish.  In an average year those picks might get you one pick in the top 5 - if you can find a trade partner.  But, given the perception that this is a strong QB class, teams at the top may want to stay there and pick a QB themselves and other teams wanting to trade up will inflate the price to move up.