par73 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 I didn't care for the way he mailed it in toward the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 So we've lost Gilmore, Woods, and now Brown. Wow, what a great off-season. Can't keep everyone. And all of those players were massively overpaid to go elsewhere. On one hand, you have Bills fans complaining that we are letting guys walk and that's why Doug Whaley sucks. Then you have other Bills fans who complain we are "mismanaging the cap" and paying certain guys too much money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToughII Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Good ... What a head case... Exactly. Over rated and not good for our defense Quick update the comp picks thread LMAO right? I mean because it means so much to have those Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Can't keep everyone. And all of those players were massively overpaid to go elsewhere. On one hand, you have Bills fans complaining that we are letting guys walk and that's why Doug Whaley sucks. Then you have other Bills fans who complain we are "mismanaging the cap" and paying certain guys too much money. LMAO! SO.......true!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 (edited) Can't keep everyone. And all of those players were massively overpaid to go elsewhere. On one hand, you have Bills fans complaining that we are letting guys walk and that's why Doug Whaley sucks. Then you have other Bills fans who complain we are "mismanaging the cap" and paying certain guys too much money. LMAO! SO.......true!!!Gilmore wasn't overpaid. Spotrac calculated his fair market value at 5 years, $73.3M. He took a 5 year, $65M deal to join the Cheatriots.http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-england-patriots/stephon-gilmore-9820/market-value/ I thought Woods was probably overpaid, but Spotrac calculated his FMV to be 4 years, $32.2M. He got 5 years, $34M. It doesn't look like he was overpaid either. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-england-patriots/stephon-gilmore-9820/market-value/ We don't even know what Brown's contract is. Kinda hard to make a call on that until the numbers are in. Spotrac has his FMV at 4 years, $18M. We will see on that. Edited April 3, 2017 by BarleyNY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 One year deal, interesting that he vastly over estimated his own market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perk71 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 ragland Yep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justoh Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Darn, I was hoping he was just flirting with other teams to get his value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Poor Womble is riding around in his car by himself in Miami, muttering about what could have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 One year deal, interesting that he vastly over estimated his own market. Probably hoping to get his money in FA next year. I wouldn't blame the Bills if they had insisted on a multi year deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcoam Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 By my count our Bills lost 7/22 starters Or 32% of our starting lineup On offense WR #2 and WR #3 Or 18% On defense, C#1, NC #1, S#1, S#2, ILB #2 Or 46% The off season changes are bigger and bolder than anything Rex/DW did So its a big transition year and I'm not even talking about all the depth changes By my count we've yet to replace either WR, C#1, NC#1 Ragland replaces the lost ILB And I know some here, including I, not so sure the S situation is any improvement So I can't agree about the pronouncement that what we signed back is better than we lost Sure, there still is the draft However its seems we've lost more starting talent than we brought in And we have more starting holes to fill than we started with I think you have to ask yourself, will all these changes, project more wins? If you think our new lineup is a cinch to win 10 games plus then who cares about not re-signing Brown, etc However if look like a 6-7 win team its hard to say this has been a good off season Lots of change folks... jc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Everyone should be happy. Now we have a better chance to tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Just remember what Buster Ramsey said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 @rapsheet #Redskins LB Zach Brown signed a 1-year deal worth a maximum value of $4.65M, source said. $500k signing bonus. Not bad this late in FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 I thought he fit our system but was over him 3 weeks ago One thing Whaley knows how to do is sign lbs Same here...I'm ready for some Haason Reddick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 He made a lot of tackles. He also missed too many tackles. On a lot of teams, the D is designed to have the line occupy the blockers so the LBs make tackles. It's not necessarily remarkable that a LB would do that, or a sign that he's always where he needs to be. ZB was about as good as the rest of the D, on average. In other words, not good enough to pay a lot for him, which is likely what he thought he'd get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 @rapsheet #Redskins LB Zach Brown signed a 1-year deal worth a maximum value of $4.65M, source said. $500k signing bonus. Not bad this late in FA. So nobody would do multiple years for a LB that age? I pictured a 3 or 4yr deal, given the circumstances. Thats a win for Washington since he'll be motivated for another contract next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 So we've lost Gilmore, Woods, and now Brown. Wow, what a great off-season. Yea but we got the BBMB members so we won the off-season, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 So nobody would do multiple years for a LB that age? I pictured a 3 or 4yr deal, given the circumstances. Thats a win for Washington since he'll be motivated for another contract next year.seems like he couldn't get anything more than 1 year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Gilmore is the only real loss out of the three. Robert Woods was a loss but hopefully recoverable. He never gave up, played hard and blocked when ball was not going in his direction, @rapsheet #Redskins LB Zach Brown signed a 1-year deal worth a maximum value of $4.65M, source said. $500k signing bonus. Not bad this late in FA. To get max value he probably needs to be voted MVP and be hero of Superbowl but the number is a good one agent can brag about. Previous agent predicting $9-10 million should not be working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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