most mocks have bills taking williams

[ice2145]

 

I don't think Williams is as good as either Jeffrey or Evans coming out...And those two were my favorite players in their respective Drafts...I'm the one that would have Drafted Jeffrey at #10 overall (over Gilmore), and Evans instead of Watkins (though I loved Sammy too)...So I feel like I have a good gauge on this comparison...

 

I like Williams and I'm OK with the Bills Drafting him (though I think #10 is too high and I do not see much logic in using a top 10 pick on a #2 WR)...But he's not on the level of Jeffrey and Evans as the complete package coming out IMHO...Williams has areas of strength that are REAL strong, but the rest is a mixed bag...I agree Williams will be a good Red Zone target, and his ability on 50/50 balls is undeniable...

 

I'm not really anti-Williams...But I do like Corey Davis more...And I'm pretty much anti-WR or TE at #10 for the Bills...I'd MUCH rather have Reuben Foster and JuJu...or Hooker and Zay Jones than a WR at #10 and what you can get elsewhere in the 2nd...But that may be just me...

I agree with your assessment. IMHO, Williams just doesn't scream elite and isn't great value at 10. I am hoping the Bills can find a trade partner and trade down for more picks.

[ALF]

If Trubisky is gone at 10 , and Zach Brown is not here , trade down and restock D early. Chad in late 5th rd

 

I think Andre Holmes signing is the tall #2 WR that Taylor can find .

 

Corey Washington is the other fast , 6'4'' WR the Bills signed.

 

Taylor needs to keep throwing to Sammy and Clay primary.

Edited April 3, 2017 by ALF

[8-8 Forever?]

if this happens i would feel like i did when they took cj spilier . i couldn't believe it , then i came around to being pissed. i know we need a wr but at 10 ? NO ! to many holes on defense that has lost alot of players and were not good anyways

the media spend about 10 seconds analyzing the Bills. no one cares about the Bills. they look at the roster and go , yeah, whatever, a receiver will do ... next..

[Zulu Cthulhu]

So where is the line drawn? A lot of you in this thread are advocating that you can't really know a wide receiver's potential because we don't know if and how he will "separate" from NFL DBs. Apparently that half-argument is enough to justify passing on 2 elite wide outs who the bills are in a great position to draft. Sorry i aint buying that brandy.

 

The defense needs to be improved. Luckily this draft is deep with defensive backs. Unless the safety from OSU falls to us, i say take williams or davis and be happy.

Edited April 3, 2017 by Zulu Cthulhu

[Chandler#81]

I honestly don't know enough about the draft class to speculate -that's why I come here. But I don't like a WR @ 10 because we're paying a solid TE a hefty amount for 35 catches a year as our QB just doesn't have good field vision. Add in that we're a Run 1St offense which has led the League 2 years running (pun) and a primo pick in what is considered a very deep draft would be much better spent on defense or OL, imo.

[The Jokeman]

Until we have "the guy" at QB I say build this roster to be as good as it can be without him. To me it's obvious we need another WR that can either step in and replace Sammy because he's not healthy or no longer here (see leaving after his rookie contract). Williams to me is a Dez Bryant type in that he's not super fast but can be a guy who can win one on one matchups and a true difference maker. I'd take him at 10 so long as one of the top two Safeties is gone. Otherwise I'd consider OJ Howard or a trade down.

[mikef272002]

Draft good players at premium positions; worrying about needs is a fool's errand IMO

 

That said, Williams isn't a tier 1 NFL WR threat IMO. Nice player, but there will probably be better investments available at 10.

 

So you're saying we'll probably draft Williams then, maybe even move up to get him.

[thebandit27]

 

So you're saying we'll probably draft Williams then, maybe even move up to get him.

No idea how you drew that conclusion, but no, that's ostensibly not at all what I said

[FireChan]

No idea how you drew that conclusion, but no, that's ostensibly not at all what I said

I think the joke was the Bills taking a weak prospect.

[YattaOkasan]

Corey Davis has to be the pick and there's no LB anywhere near Keuchly in this draft. We may have to pick Davis if for no other reason than Watkins injury insurance.

If you want injury insurance why not take a WR in the 2nd round? I don't want us to spend precious capital on insurance. I'm very ambivalent on this pick, but I would not make the call based on insurance. I'd make it on BPA and ability to scheme around the person I brought in.

[dave mcbride]

I have no idea who they will take, and I tend to prefer that they take the best player at an elite position -- d-line, cb, qb, wr, maybe TE. But WR is DEFINITELY a need. They have precisely one good receiver and last I checked, the NFL is a passing league. The Bills need to improve their passing game if they want to take the next step. They of course need help on defense, but getting another receiver is just as important. They can't go into the season with Watkins (who recently had surgery again) and a bunch of nobodies.

 

This idea that drafting a particular player at a core position is a "bad investment" of resources is nonsense. Get the best players you can.

Edited April 3, 2017 by dave mcbride

[chris heff]

I have no idea who they will take, and I tend to prefer that they take the best player at an elite position -- d-line, cb, qb, wr, maybe TE. But WR is DEFINITELY a need. They have precisely one good receiver and last I checked, the NFL is a passing league. The Bills need to improve their passing game if they want to take the next step. They of course need help on defense, but getting another receiver is just as important. They can't go into the season with Watkins (who recently had surgery again) and a bunch of nobodies.

This idea that drafting a particular player at a core position is a "bad investment" of resources is nonsense. Get the best players you can.

I agree, that being said I'm still intrigued by Howard. He seems to be kind of a hybrid TE WR.

[Zulu Cthulhu]

I have no idea who they will take, and I tend to prefer that they take the best player at an elite position -- d-line, cb, qb, wr, maybe TE. But WR is DEFINITELY a need. They have precisely one good receiver and last I checked, the NFL is a passing league. The Bills need to improve their passing game if they want to take the next step. They of course need help on defense, but getting another receiver is just as important. They can't go into the season with Watkins (who recently had surgery again) and a bunch of nobodies.

 

This idea that drafting a particular player at a core position is a "bad investment" of resources is nonsense. Get the best players you can.

Voice of reason once again.

 

There's a lot of holes; we all know that. All of you mentioning our "run first" offense seemed to have forgot we fired all our coaches. Who knows what dennison wants to do with this personnel? If M. Williams or C. Davis is there at 10 and they take either of them, you're going to seriously say that pick doesn't help the team???

Edited April 3, 2017 by Zulu Cthulhu

[Chandler#81]

Voice of reason once again.

 

There's a lot of holes; we all know that. All of you mentioning our "run first" offense seemed to have forgot we fired all our coaches. Who knows what dennison wants to do with this personnel? If M. Williams or C. Davis is there at 10 and they take either of them, you're going to seriously say that pick doesn't help the team???

McD & Dennison are on record as saying the run 1st approach is what we'll be doing -because we're good at it.. Why do think there's 10 FB's signed?

[HeHateMe]

Corey Davis at 10 is who I want. I don't think Sammy stays healthy and probably leaves after his rookie deal is up. Davis is the most complete WR on the board. Use the rest of the draft on defense. We just spent 3 high picks on D last year.

 

We're a Watkins injury from again having the worst WR core in the league.

Edited April 3, 2017 by HeHateMe

[buffuct]

McD & Dennison are on record as saying the run 1st approach is what we'll be doing -because we're good at it.. Why do think there's 10 FB's signed #*!

 

Voice of reason once again.

 

There's a lot of holes; we all know that. All of you mentioning our "run first" offense seemed to have forgot we fired all our coaches. Who knows what dennison wants to do with this personnel? If M. Williams or C. Davis is there at 10 and they take either of them, you're going to seriously say that pick doesn't help the team???

chandler#81 is right on . i do not understand all the confusion with this . tt has his top three targets in sam , clay, and shady and would like oj howard for run and pass game in draft then all def after that a wr does not help this team that much and getting one just in case is foolish

[BillsCelticsAngelsBama]

Corey Davis at 10 is who I want. I don't think Sammy stays healthy and probably leaves after his rookie deal is up. Davis is the most complete WR on the board. Use the rest of the draft on defense. We just spent 3 high picks on D last year.

 

We're a Watkins injury from again having the (We have the) worst WR core in the league.

[metzelaars_lives]

The only 1st round guys that have been successfully predicted in the last 30 years are Bruce and Dareus.

 

Every single year the mocks are wrong about who we are going to take. The only certainty is Garrett to browns, Adams to Titans and hooker to chargers. Other than that nobody has a clue.

By who? Mike Williams was kind of a consensus pick I feel like. McKelvin was a pretty standard pick. I'd have to go back and look but I'm not sure I agree with that statement.

Corey Davis at 10 is who I want. I don't think Sammy stays healthy and probably leaves after his rookie deal is up. Davis is the most complete WR on the board. Use the rest of the draft on defense. We just spent 3 high picks on D last year.

 

We're a Watkins injury from again having the worst WR core in the league.

Agree on everything you said. Except that we might have the worst WR core in the league even with a healthy Watkins. WR is a desperate position of need. I'd run to the podium and take Davis at 10 and then go defense the next three picks.

Edited April 3, 2017 by metzelaars_lives

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

I have no idea why so many people hate the idea of Williams.

 

For one, we need a #2 receiver. Desperately. We saw a year of "making do" last year and I didn't like it. Say what you will about TT, but with Sammy hurt we might have had the single worst WR corps in the league.

 

Pretty much every evaluation I've seen of Williams has him as a top 15 prospect (at worst). He has the bigger build to be the contrast to Sammy and has a great catch radius.

 

I get trading down since this is a deep draft but the quality of WR looks like it falls off a cliff after Williams and Davis. Maybe some decent pieces, but not some who is going to replace Sammy of he goes down again.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

...just don't see more investment in the receiving corps (WR & TE) until TT can consistently demonstrate ability to process the entire field and find open guys.....you're retraining the "gray matter " to speed up if possible....film rats could probably go back and find numerous times guys broke off routes or coasted because they had zero confidence of seeing the ball......this kid's wheels cannot be the sole dependency factor to supplement an inconsistent passing component to this offense,,,,,,there is NO balance and "run or done" will NOT work IMO.....that's why we are "backfilling" the corps via FA with hopes somebody breaks out, either a new signing or an existing roster guy....would be nice if Listenbee or Logan Thomas broke through............

Edited April 3, 2017 by OldTimeAFLGuy