Figster Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Tyrod: 15 Fitz: 48 Losman: 31 Trent: 31 Bledsoe: 36 EJ: 28 Jim Kelly : 15 Dan Marino:15 How a QB reads and reacts under pressure matters most IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 Wasn't peyton an 18 lol EDIT: Nope. 28. The only starting QB in the league that falls under "not successful NFL QB" criteria given by Gugny is Tyrod lol. BTW Dan Marino got the same score as Tyrod. Go back and read it again. Get a partner if you need to. Jim Kelly : 15 Dan Marino:15 How a QB reads and reacts under pressure matters most IMO. Try again. IMO. It boggles my mind that simple testing and correlation of tests vs. performance needs to be explained. I'm losing faith in humanity with every post that mentions Kelly and Marino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowgirlsFan Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 9:45 am , April 31st Funny 9:45 am , April 31st Funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Jim Kelly : 15 Dan Marino:15 How a QB reads and reacts under pressure matters most IMO. It was a different era. You're comparing apples to oranges. Offenses were nowhere near as complex as they are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Getty Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Jim Kelly : 15 Dan Marino:15 How a QB reads and reacts under pressure matters most IMO. The answer for Tyrod is not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 You would think the only guy that cares about the wonderlic would be the one who knows when they come out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 (edited) If you look at composites of scores - the majority of best players land right around 25-30. In other words, average. Any testing mode where the majority ends up in the middle, it is indicative of nothing. There are great players above the magical score of 15-20, and great players below the golden-magical standard of 15-20. Edited March 11, 2017 by Elite Poster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Too high of a wonderlic score is indicative of too much time studying and not enough time developing football instincts.-You look at the great QBs...and only Rodgers and Brady at 35 and 33 have above 30 scores. Elway,Montana,Marino,Favre,Kelly,Peyton etc are ..well...academically a touch on the slow side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Too high of a wonderlic score is indicative of too much time studying and not enough time developing football instincts.-You look at the great QBs...and only Rodgers and Brady at 35 and 33 have above 30 scores. Elway,Montana,Marino,Favre,Kelly,Peyton etc are ..well...academically a touch on the slow side. .....so was Whaley actually 49.99%?........if so, we could easily put this debate to bed with all of Doug's "Fan Club"............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 It was a different era. You're comparing apples to oranges. Offenses were nowhere near as complex as they are now. Peyton Manning scored 28, brother Eli 39, how did that translate onto the football field? Cam Newton scored 21, about the league player average. Does Cam struggle reading Defenses or running the Panther Offense? In my opinion, no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 ...Manziel was a phenom.....Wonderlic score matched his IQ....32......first tie in NFL history.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Too high of a wonderlic score is indicative of too much time studying and not enough time developing football instincts.-You look at the great QBs...and only Rodgers and Brady at 35 and 33 have above 30 scores. Elway,Montana,Marino,Favre,Kelly,Peyton etc are ..well...academically a touch on the slow side. LOL! the ideal wonderlic is between 20 and 29. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodman19 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Wonderlic is like the 40 time. It measures 1 skill and doesnt mean crap about how good they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Peyton Manning scored 28, brother Eli 39, how did that translate onto the football field? Cam Newton scored 21, about the league player average. Does Cam struggle reading Defenses or running the Panther Offense? In my opinion, no It's been stated numerous times already by various posters. A score below 20 guarantees failure as a QB. A score above 20 means you have a chance. A chance that is equal to every other QB who scored above 20. Meaning not very great of a chance. Below 20 is a disqualifying factor imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Tyrod: 15 Fitz: 48 Losman: 31 Trent: 31 Bledsoe: 36 EJ: 28 Cardale Jones: 25 Will SOMEBODY get this kid a freakin' football! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 wonderlic test results are never revealed, fwiw. the rest is just people arguing who's dumber than someone else and it's gug being gug. good times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 12, 2017 Author Share Posted March 12, 2017 If you look at composites of scores - the majority of best players land right around 25-30. In other words, average. Any testing mode where the majority ends up in the middle, it is indicative of nothing. There are great players above the magical score of 15-20, and great players below the golden-magical standard of 15-20. Players in general? Yes. QBs (the point of this thread)? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 (edited) Morris Claiborne scored a 4 on the Wonderlic! Not a QB but still. And we are reported to be interested. Yikes! Edited March 13, 2017 by wppete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 It was a different era. You're comparing apples to oranges. Offenses were nowhere near as complex as they are now. yeah right offenses now are like advanced mathematics...thats why we have such brilliant players to carry out these doctoral thesis level gameplans laid out by these genius ex jocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Some people struggle with standardized testing. For many the pressure is much more intense than what they see on a sports field, or within film study. A learning disability wouldn't affect your ability to read and react on the field, but it will affect your ability to read and write. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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