Greg F Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Just think when times were simpler, amateur politicians debating about what the word "is" is. Now we have real pro politicians leading us and telling us "wiretapping" really doesn't mean, well, wiretapping. Pay close attention to those quotation marks. ...And what exactly is wiretapping? I am sure The Great Trumpster the Dumpster uses one of these. They are so huge! He's going mobile, wireless! So you are saying the NYT was lying when they wrote: The F.B.I. is leading the investigations, aided by the National Security Agency, the C.I.A. and the Treasury Department’s financial crimes unit. The investigators have accelerated their efforts in recent weeks but have found no conclusive evidence of wrongdoing, the officials said. One official said intelligence reports based on some of the wiretapped communications had been provided to the White House. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreddieJizzle22 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 ... nothing happened today... so... that truly is the joke. So you missed Spicer saying that Trump didn't mean wiretapping even though he tweeted about wiretapping??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 (edited) Trump Derangement Syndrome, much? lol No. A lot of Trump's populist ideas especially speak to a person like me. I am glad he is sticking it to the enviros, promoting industry over those environmental issues, etc... Where they are probably going full deranged is in states like Michigan. AND bipartisan derangement too! Trump's budget calls for cutting Great Lakes restoration money down from $300 million a year to $30 million. FINALLY! They are seeing what a waste of money on all this was. Time to promote business and industry over gov't boondoggles! Trump is getting some things right. He's just bat schitt crazy, pathological liar, and un-presidential... That is what I have a hard time resolving... But he is sticking it to the Blue Firewall like PA, MI, & WI when it comes to crazy Great Lakes funding... ABOUT TIME! Got to love him for that! Edited March 14, 2017 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 Oh look it's Uncle Rufuss back with his special brand of crazy. He can't handle the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Only my 2nd venture into this forum, but can any Trump supporter tell me how they feel about Trump walking back his statements about Obama wiretapping him? I mean he woke up one morning and decided that little factoid was important enough to tweet, plenty of his supporters actually believed him for no reason, and now it turns out it was complete BS. Doesn't this bother you if you voted for Trump? At all? So you are saying the NYT was lying when they wrote: Can you tell the difference between general wiretapping ordered by some random official, and direct wiretapping of Trump ordered by Obama? The NYT's statement isn't inconsistent with anything that has happened. It is plainly obvious that Trump read an article somewhere claiming Obama wire tapped him, and he ran with it. He didn't have any intelligence to go off (in every meaning of the word). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 So you missed Spicer saying that Trump didn't mean wiretapping even though he tweeted about wiretapping??? ohhh I am soooo confused, see. I am just used to the last 16 yrs where more or less the president said something and everyone didn't get butt hurt. The last 8 yrs really got me ignoring what the president said because I am used to it being total horse ****. My bad, I'll start listening to the president again. But, disirregardless not a god damn thing happened today and this bull **** announcement doesn't mean a god damn thing to anyone but the children who think #resist is cool and spend their time with #feelings. Only my 2nd venture into this forum, but can any Trump supporter tell me how they feel about Trump walking back his statements about Obama wiretapping him? I mean he woke up one morning and decided that little factoid was important enough to tweet, plenty of his supporters actually believed him for no reason, and now it turns out it was complete BS. Doesn't this bother you if you voted for Trump? At all? Can you tell the difference between general wiretapping ordered by some random official, and direct wiretapping of Trump ordered by Obama? The NYT's statement isn't inconsistent with anything that has happened. It is plainly obvious that Trump read an article somewhere claiming Obama wire tapped him, and he ran with it. He didn't have any intelligence to go off (in every meaning of the word). you won't find many trump supporters here. What you'll find is the mocking of those who disappeared for 8 yrs or those who knob gobbled every ounce of man juice from the Obama administration. Now, suddenly they have a voice of contrition. Those who appear to be defensing trump now are only asking why didn't they give the same, and reasonable, judgement of Obama. People are tired of hypocrits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Judge Napolitano says that British Intelligence provided Obama admin with surveillance data on Trump Tower phone conversations by Thomas Lifson Original Article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Please, he is bad for sure, but don't call President Trump a scumbag. That is disrespectful of the office. How about douchebag then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 After what's happened today, this thread is an even bigger joke. You're right, the Justice Dept didn't provide Congress with the requested proof that Obama wiretapped Trump. Judge Napolitano says that British Intelligence provided Obama admin with surveillance data on Trump Tower phone conversations by Thomas Lifson Original Article Welp. Try again anti trumpers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 No. A lot of Trump's populist ideas especially speak to a person like me. I am glad he is sticking it to the enviros, promoting industry over those environmental issues, etc... Where they are probably going full deranged is in states like Michigan. AND bipartisan derangement too! Trump's budget calls for cutting Great Lakes restoration money down from $300 million a year to $30 million. FINALLY! They are seeing what a waste of money on all this was. Time to promote business and industry over gov't boondoggles! Trump is getting some things right. He's just bat schitt crazy, pathological liar, and un-presidential... That is what I have a hard time resolving... But he is sticking it to the Blue Firewall like PA, MI, & WI when it comes to crazy Great Lakes funding... ABOUT TIME! Got to love him for that! Is there a difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Judge Napolitano says that British Intelligence provided Obama admin with surveillance data on Trump Tower phone conversations by Thomas Lifson Original Article Oh what, Sean Hannity didn't have propaganda to spew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_House Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Haha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Judge Napolitano says that British Intelligence provided Obama admin with surveillance data on Trump Tower phone conversations by Thomas Lifson Original Article Well, Fox News just axed the judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Well, Fox News just axed the judge. Why? I mean, when did Fox suddenly become shy about airing unverified bull ****? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 Why? I mean, when did Fox suddenly become shy about airing unverified bull ****? Well, look who's saying some people in the Obama administration could be facing jail time. "He said it isn't Trump's assertion, without proof, that his predecessor wiretapped Trump Tower that is of concern, but rather that intelligence officials named the Americans being discussed in intercepted communications. "You can learn all kinds of things from diplomats gossiping, because that's what occurs. Under the rules, and they are pretty strict, it's called minimization. You don't name the American person who is being discussed," Woodward said. He noted that there are about 20 people in the intelligence community who, for intelligence reasons, can order this "minimization" be removed. "But the idea that there was intelligence value here is really thin," Woodward said. "It's, again, down the middle, it is not what Trump said, but this could be criminal on the part of people who decided, oh, let's name these people." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 I would assume that everyone in DC expects that all their communication would be subject to intelligence listening. Of which almost everything is dull and useless. Using snippets of conversation from non-government individuals to enter into a security report and giving it legs is another matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 I would assume that everyone in DC expects that all their communication would be subject to intelligence listening. Of which almost everything is dull and useless. Using snippets of conversation from non-government individuals to enter into a security report and giving it legs is another matter. Exactly. And unmasking the names and then spreading it around will have consequences. Remember Scooter! He went to jail on lot less grievous charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Exactly. And unmasking the names and then spreading it around will have consequences. Remember Scooter! He went to jail on lot less grievous charges. And Mark Felt! He got in a lot of trouble...oh wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Nets Demand Evidence 123 Times, Scold Nunes for Giving It When President Trump made his claim that President Obama “wiretapped” Trump Tower during the presidential campaign, the media demanded evidence. Since Trump’s initial tweet on March 4, the evening news shows of ABC, CBS and NBC have called on the White House to provide more evidence a grand total of 123 times. But when House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes briefed the President, and the press, revealing that Trump associates’ names hadn’t been redacted from intelligence reports, the networks changed their tone. According to Nunes, the Trump associates hadn’t been the target of surveillance. However, their conversations were picked up in the process, and then their identities weren’t masked as is usually the protocol with American citizens. Nunes’s revelation didn’t prove the President’s wiretapping claims, but it did change the network news’s tone on releasing evidence. Before Nunes, the evening news shows were full of examples of demands for evidence to be made public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Back to original topic: Nobody performs anything on Trump! Unless, it's the word that: Begins with "Fell" and ends with the letters: "atio!" Take that Slick Willy! So sad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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