Dorkington Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 The next week can't go by fast enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Not the case. You have to keep trying until you hit 21. We have not done that for 20 years and where are we now?Sitting on 17 for the first time since the '90s? I actually love the analogy (regardless of what they do). So to recap, the Bills are considering: keeping Tyrod, restructuring Tyrod, trading Tyrod or cutting Tyrod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Sam MonsonVerified account @PFF_Sam 9m9 minutes ago More Cutting Tyrod Taylor because he won't ever be Aaron Rodgers is like hitting on 17 in blackjack. Sure you can do better, but likely won't. Not a fan of the reasoning. He might not be that level, but he also isn't the worst. So where does that type of QB leave you? In the middle. Where Buffalo has been agonizingly for almost this whole playoff drought. And a QB of Taylor's level will never get you great and never sink you. So you'll never win a SuperBowl with Taylor (likely) and you'll never be bad enough to Draft a potential Aaron Rodgers. Hate being in the middle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 So to recap, the Bills are considering: keeping Tyrod, restructuring Tyrod, trading Tyrod or cutting Tyrod? I think that's exactly what McD said in his press conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Not a fan of the reasoning. He might not be that level, but he also isn't the worst. So where does that type of QB leave you? In the middle. Where Buffalo has been agonizingly for almost this whole playoff drought. And a QB of Taylor's level will never get you great and never sink you. So you'll never win a SuperBowl with Taylor (likely) and you'll never be bad enough to Draft a potential Aaron Rodgers. Hate being in the middle Depends on how many people are at the table. The Bills purpose for the last 20 years has been to be mediocre to bad. Never bad enough for long enough to get stocked with elite talent. Never good enough to get to the playoffs or win a playoff game. I want my team to play to win the whole thing. Tyrod is a bottom 5 starter. You don't pay that guy 30-40 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 even though the source is nothing more than speculation, you have to really expect him to be gone. sure, McD can come out and say we're exploring all our options before making any decisions but if they really wanted him, he would/will be under center in 2017? just hope they have a equal or better option come the season opener...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 It's a question of practicalities. It's a safe assumption that Cardale, Siemian or whoever else not named Romo is going to give us less than TT. But how much MORE does TT give you for the tens of millions in additional money guarantees and, more importantly, the valuable cap space that could be used to shore things up elsewhere (and yes, I know that cap number for QBs is friendly, relatively)? Especially with a still questionable defense? A couple more wins? Three? How many? Like I've said since McD broke his silence on the matter earlier in the week, after two months of exhaustive film study and analysis, there was no ringing endorsement of TT like there was for KW for instance. The staff is obviously underwhelmed. While I think that's regretable, it's also the reality. It won't be a popular decision for a huge segment of fans, but sometimes hard, practical decisions need to be made. And I think the TT decision is one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Not a fan of the reasoning. He might not be that level, but he also isn't the worst. So where does that type of QB leave you? In the middle. Where Buffalo has been agonizingly for almost this whole playoff drought. And a QB of Taylor's level will never get you great and never sink you. So you'll never win a SuperBowl with Taylor (likely) and you'll never be bad enough to Draft a potential Aaron Rodgers. Hate being in the middle Well Rodgers was drafted in the 20s of the first round - so technically being middle of the pack would certainly allow us to draft Rodgers. : ) You have to identify your guy and pull the trigger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Vic has turned into such garbage. Sad So true. He is throwing everything out there and something will stick. He has turned into a hack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) Tyrod = Kaepernick, roughly. Bills fans have him overrated in my opinion. These types who can't go through progressions well and therefore regularly ignore open receivers in favor of running out of bounds are not worth 30M guaranteed. The worst or one of the worst passing games in the league is not worth 30M guaranteed even if it boosts the running game some. We can grab Kaep for less if that's the kind of "modern," or in other words "limited" or "one-dimensional," offense we want. Kaep actually did better in his first 2 years starting, under Roman, than Tyrod did, and with less pro experience. Neither one is worth Tyrod's contract- they are too limited. The defense beats them by "making them be a quarterback."Don't let your eyes glaze over on the way out, #5. Edited March 3, 2017 by 2018 Our Year For Sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 I can't wait till we cut Tyrod for nothing in a crazy QB market, then trade a 2nd round pick for Siemian. Oh God No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Romo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Tyrod = Kaepernick, roughly. Bills fans have him overrated in my opinion. These types who can't go through progressions well and therefore regularly ignore open receivers in favor of running out of bounds are not worth 30M guaranteed. The worst or one of the worst passing games in the league is not worth 30M guaranteed even if it boosts the running game some. We can grab Kaep for less if that's the kind of "modern," or in other words "limited" or "one-dimensional," offense we want. Kaep actually did better in his first 2 years starting, under Roman, than Tyrod did, and with less pro experience. Neither one is worth Tyrod's contract- they are too limited. The defense beats them by "making them be a quarterback." Don't let your eyes glaze over on the way out, #5. Look at the 49ers defense those 2 years and look at ours.....Look at their O-Line those 2 years and look at ours....its a team sport. the 49ers from 2011-2012 were better than the bills 2015/16. BY A LOT. The fact Tryod still led a top 10 scoring offense with a handicapped WRs corp and a defense that spread em quicker then the red light district speaks to how much better than Kap he actually is. Tyrod also pantsed Kap this season if u remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Look at the 49ers defense those 2 years and look at ours.....Look at their O-Line those 2 years and look at ours....its a team sport. the 49ers from 2011-2012 were better than the bills 2015/16. BY A LOT. The fact Tryod still led a top 10 scoring offense with a handicapped WRs corp and a defense that spread em quicker then the red light district speaks to how much better than Kap he actually is. Tyrod also pantsed Kap this season if u remember. Our OL is awesome dude. Scoring offenses have next to nothing to do with defenses. TT is Kaep. Put them side by side. It's uncanny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Romo! Please let this happen. Sign Romo draft a young QB like Kizer and have Cardale and Kizer learn under Romo for a couple of years. This would be the best thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Our OL is awesome dude. Scoring offenses have next to nothing to do with defenses. TT is Kaep. Put them side by side. It's uncanny. Dude our OL compared to that 49ers team is not close at all. Kaep couldnt hang Tyrods jockstrap. and TT is just an average QB. If those two teams were close at all and their talent level was the same we would have made the playoffs. And if TT is Kaep than that means with a solid OL and Defense Tyrod can take us to the SB. and you know you dont believe that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 This is 100% guesswork on the part of the source-less has-been Vic Carucci. That's simply all it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Look at the 49ers defense those 2 years and look at ours.....Look at their O-Line those 2 years and look at ours....its a team sport. the 49ers from 2011-2012 were better than the bills 2015/16. BY A LOT. The fact Tryod still led a top 10 scoring offense with a handicapped WRs corp and a defense that spread em quicker then the red light district speaks to how much better than Kap he actually is. Tyrod also pantsed Kap this season if u remember. Tyrod had the best running game this century and open receivers all over the field. I'm just not buying the 'blame everybody else' thing with Tyrod, he had every opportunity to come through last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Well, if Vic said it then that confirms it...Tyrod is staying (insert exploding Ryan L head here). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Dude our OL compared to that 49ers team is not close at all. Kaep couldnt hang Tyrods jockstrap. and TT is just an average QB. If those two teams were close at all and their talent level was the same we would have made the playoffs. And if TT is Kaep than that means with a solid OL and Defense Tyrod can take us to the SB. and you know you dont believe that. First or second year TT maybe. He's getting worse and worse as time goes on. Just like Kaep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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