Pbomb Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Dont really remember but who did seattle lose for 2 thirds and kc for 4 picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Are we really complaining that the Bills aren't awarded comp picks because they didn't let talented players go/picked up too many good players in free agency? Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Some smart moves from Cleveland, but no idea if it pays off with Flying J running the circus. They'll be the 'belle of the ball' come draft weekend, and can probably trade up or back for picks next year with relative ease. Still....dont you just know theyll #&!/$ it all up somehow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 If half of Cleveland's picks work out from last year and this year, they're going to have huge salary cap problems in the next 4-5 years. well with the Browns track record in the draft the last few years, it will be considered good if half those picks work out to be 'serviceable', and amazing if they get more than 1 superstar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Are we really complaining that the Bills aren't awarded comp picks because they didn't let talented players go/picked up too many good players in free agency? Seriously?whaley can do no right for some people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Are we really complaining that the Bills aren't awarded comp picks because they didn't let talented players go/picked up too many good players in free agency? Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Seattle didn't get there by having 12 picks in one draft. They got there by being smart with who they chose -- then they had to make tough choices regarding who they kept vs. who they let go. I didn't say anything about Seattle's last 5 years and whether I want the Bills to have that kind of success. Saying this Ask Pete Carroll about that and see how many super bowls he's won since he had to bleed off good players. seems to infer that you would not like to be in the position to have to make choices about what good players to keep after a superbowl run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) How is San Francisco doing with their loads of draft picks the last 4 years? 2013 - 11 picks 2014 - 12 picks 2015 - 10 picks 2016 - 11 picks This isn't including all the draft picks they traded away, buy 1 get 1 free. Draft picks are great but they don't guarantee success. Edited February 25, 2017 by What a Tuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Cleveland will probably lose a 1st and 3rd to Patriots for Garropolo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rant_and_go Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Still making fun of Cleveland now? They will make it to the playoffs before we do Didn't they make the playoffs in 2002 with Charlie Frye as QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 You can only keep so many. Ask Pete Carroll about that and see how many super bowls he's won since he had to bleed off good players. ...and every team has 5th round pro bowl players. Heck, our QB is a 6th rounder. He won at least one... Didn't they make the playoffs in 2002 with Charlie Frye as QB? And hopefully never will again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Cleveland will probably lose a 1st and 3rd to Patriots for Garropolo.They won't have to give up that much. Garappolo can be had for one of the Browns' 2d round picks, plus maybe a 4th or 5th. No one will trade a high 1st for a guy who's started 3 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Adam SchefterVerified account@AdamSchefter 19m19 minutes ago NFL awarded compensatory draft picks early this year. Here's the full list of extra picks for teams: Holy cow, as if Cleveland didn't have enough they get an additional 3rd, 2 4th's, and 5th round pick... So, if I'm not mistaken, Cleveland picks (Rd (Overall Pick)): 1 (1) 1 (12) 2 (33) 2 (52) 3 (65) 3 (103) 4 (139) 4 (142) 5 (145) 5 (176) 5 (183) 6 (187) Update: A few Compensatory picks have been traded to other teams due to past transactions. Round 3 Pick 100. Tennessee from Los Angeles Rams Pick 103. New England from Cleveland Round 4 Pick 139. Philadelphia from Cleveland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 No they won't, I doubt this they get 2 starters from all those picks. Well, they already got one. The 3rd round pick is going to NE for Collins. One of the fourth round picks is going to Philly as part of the trade that got the Iggles Wentz. They still have the other 4th and the 5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Are we really complaining that the Bills aren't awarded comp picks because they didn't let talented players go/picked up too many good players in free agency? Seriously? We're complaining because we don't have a GM that understands how to build a football team in this era. This isn't a new revelation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 They won't have to give up that much. Garappolo can be had for one of the Browns' 2d round picks, plus maybe a 4th or 5th. No one will trade a high 1st for a guy who's started 3 games.are u sure , lol remember rob johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 We're complaining because we don't have a GM that understands how to build a football team in this era. This isn't a new revelation. There is a correlation between winning and getting compensatory picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 are u sure , lol remember rob johnsonHow'd that work out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Draft picks are a means to an end. They are not in and of themselves a measure of success. What matters is how you use them. There is no correlation between number of picks and success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 There is no correlation between number of picks and success. You are mistaken. There is a correlation between winning and getting compensatory picks? Yes, there is. There is a correlation between having a front office that understands how to build a football team and having sustained success. Draft picks are the lifeblood of a franchise, and Doug "Win Now" Whaley simply does not understand this. The list of teams that have received the most compensatory picks since 1994 is pretty similar to the list of the best teams in football since 1994: The Ravens have received the most compensatory picks, and they’ve won two Super Bowls. The Packers have received the second-most, and they’ve also won two Super Bowls. The Patriots are fourth, and they’ve won five Super Bowls. The 10 teams that have had the most compensatory picks have won most of the Super Bowls since 1994, with a total of 14 titles for those 10 teams. At the other end of the spectrum, the teams that don’t receive a lot of compensatory picks tend to be bad teams: There are 14 teams that have received fewer than 20 compensatory picks since the system started in 1994, and those 14 teams have won a combined two Super Bowls. Compensatory picks have turned out to reward smart teams. The teams that have been wise about not over-spending in free agency and keeping themselves in good salary cap shape are the ones that keep getting lots of compensatory picks, while the teams that overspend in free agency are the ones that don’t receive compensatory picks. As a result, the consistently good teams tend to be the teams that consistently get a lot of compensatory picks. And the teams that consistently try to spend themselves out of last place are the ones that don’t get a lot of compensatory picks. If you can only bat .300, how do you get more hits? You have to get more at-bats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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