Kirby Jackson Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 I think expecting the D to improve from a 27th ranking in DVOA...........when they were rarely asked to overcome a turnover............is a very reasonable expectation. And for all we dog Danny Crosshairs special teams units.......the Bills were actually leading the NFL in fewest yards per return going into the Raiders game...........it's not like this unit was constantly put in tough situations..........Rex/Rob/Thurman were utterly incompetent. If you add that to the stretch lf 17 TDs in 18 RZ possessions I do not know how you couldn't expect it to improve? This holds especially true when you look at how effective they were before with largely the same group. They had one of the worst stretches in NFL history. I don't think that is hyperbole either. Unless a team has given up 18 TDs on 18 straight RZ possessions. If they are just okay the team takes big steps. 27th in DVOA doesn't suggest okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Rex just needs to get his guys, am I right John? why dont yu knock it off with the baiting lack of anything posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 I expect the Bills simple zone schemes to be carved up by Tom Brady next year. Maybe against weaker teams we will "play faster" and beat up on some scrub QB's. I don't get where this great improvement is coming from. Is it because Rex was holding back all the talent? You really believe that? Of course. You really believe he was doing anywhere close to the best he could with these guy? You probably thought Wannstedt wasn't holding them back when Alex Smith and the Niners put 650 yards on that Bills D and the Seahawks put up 50 plus on them in Toronto. Coaching can make a huge difference on defense and nothing turns around easier than defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 why dont yu knock it off with the baiting lack of anything posts TT's gonna take a step forward. The Rex D is gonna get nasty. Just listen to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Of course. You really believe he was doing anywhere close to the best he could with these guy? You probably thought Wannstedt wasn't holding them back when Alex Smith and the Niners put 650 yards on that Bills D and the Seahawks put up 50 plus on them in Toronto. Coaching can make a huge difference on defense and nothing turns around easier than defense. Sure, coaching can make a huge difference. Who is calling the plays next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 To be honest my contract redo has nothing to do with the actual Dollar amount. I dont want him to take a paycut. I want him to remove the guarantees off the 2018 salary and can earn em back with milestones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 I expect the Bills simple zone schemes to be carved up by Tom Brady next year. Maybe against weaker teams we will "play faster" and beat up on some scrub QB's. I don't get where this great improvement is coming from. Is it because Rex was holding back all the talent? You really believe that? yu mean a qb that carves up every nfl team will also carve us up? probably....but maybe we wont make everyone else LOOK like brady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 yu mean a qb that carves up every nfl team will also carve us up? probably....but maybe we wont make everyone else LOOK like brady I expect simple zones, non-aggressive defense to make our team look even worse next year against Brady. As for the other teams waiting to find out who is calling the plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 I expect simple zones, non-aggressive defense to make our team look even worse next year against Brady. As for the other teams waiting to find out who is calling the plays. its a mcd defense that has recent top 10 defenses.....why are you so concerned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Sure, coaching can make a huge difference. Who is calling the plays next year? I'm not a big fan of McDermott and Frazier's past defensive work but I felt the same way when they hired Schwartz.........who had fielded mostly mediocre defenses before coming to Buffalo.........and he had clearly improved with age. In a league that values young, innovative minds the defensive side of the ball is still dominated by older coaches who have often improved with age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lau_chivo Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Is it hard to imagine the Bills making the playoffs with TT? It makes sense that once in the playoffs, anything can happen. The best team doesn't always win or even make it to the Super Bowl once in the playoffs. So if the Bills get to the playoffs with TT, why can't they win or make it to the Super Bowl. The Patriots never allowed a team in the regular season score more than 25 points (Bills week 8 and that's it). The Bills in contrast, allowed 25 or more points 8 times. ALL LOSSES. Allowed 30 or more points 6 times (twice by the Jets). 3 (Miami twice and 1st Jets game) of these games could have been won by just 1 final defensive stop another if Woods was looking at his QB when he was scrambling on the final play of the Seattle game. They teach that in PeeWee. The topic that should be flooding this Wall is how we're going to improve our defense to make this a legitimate Super Bowl contender. Not who's going to be our QB, we already have one. We'd be stupid to let him go. If it was so easy to produce a QB better than TT the Bills would already have one. We haven't had anyone better in 17 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Is it hard to imagine the Bills making the playoffs with TT? It makes sense that once in the playoffs, anything can happen. The best team doesn't always win or even make it to the Super Bowl once in the playoffs. So if the Bills get to the playoffs with TT, why can't they win or make it to the Super Bowl. The Patriots never allowed a team in the regular season score more than 25 points (Bills week 8 and that's it). The Bills in contrast, allowed 25 or more points 8 times. ALL LOSSES. Allowed 30 or more points 6 times (twice by the Jets). 3 (Miami twice and 1st Jets game) of these games could have been won by just 1 final defensive stop another if Woods was looking at his QB when he was scrambling on the final play of the Seattle game. They teach that in PeeWee. The topic that should be flooding this Wall is how we're going to improve our defense to make this a legitimate Super Bowl contender. Not who's going to be our QB, we already have one. We'd be stupid to let him go. If it was so easy to produce a QB better than TT the Bills would already have one. We haven't had anyone better in 17 years. The top 4 teams in the playoffs with elite QBs this year beg to differ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 its a mcd defense that has recent top 10 defenses.....why are you so concerned? I don't think Leslie Frazier is an upgrade on Rex Ryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 decisions, decisions with or without Taylor McD is in for a big challenge going forward. draft fa/replacing players scheme adjustments schedule it would seem this would be Whaley's last regime carousel if it were to fail and they need to improve in all phases, especially defense. offense was top 10 last season but one could expect changes with a new OC and still question remaining at the most important position? could be as good, better, or worse? I believe the D improves with McD/Frazier/Waufle bringing in a new philosophy and discipline... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 I'm not a big fan of McDermott and Frazier's past defensive work but I felt the same way when they hired Schwartz.........who had fielded mostly mediocre defenses before coming to Buffalo.........and he had clearly improved with age. In a league that values young, innovative minds the defensive side of the ball is still dominated by older coaches who have often improved with age. Yes in fact when they appointed Schwartz you said during that offseason you'd have preferred a DC who doesn't need such specific high priced talent (ie. Pass rushers) to win. Shall I remind you of the example you gave......? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Yes in fact when they appointed Schwartz you said during that offseason you'd have preferred a DC who doesn't need such specific high priced talent (ie. Pass rushers) to win. Shall I remind you of the example you gave......? Ooooooh it's bout to go down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Is it hard to imagine the Bills making the playoffs with TT? It makes sense that once in the playoffs, anything can happen. The best team doesn't always win or even make it to the Super Bowl once in the playoffs. So if the Bills get to the playoffs with TT, why can't they win or make it to the Super Bowl. The Patriots never allowed a team in the regular season score more than 25 points (Bills week 8 and that's it). The Bills in contrast, allowed 25 or more points 8 times. ALL LOSSES. Allowed 30 or more points 6 times (twice by the Jets). 3 (Miami twice and 1st Jets game) of these games could have been won by just 1 final defensive stop another if Woods was looking at his QB when he was scrambling on the final play of the Seattle game. They teach that in PeeWee. The topic that should be flooding this Wall is how we're going to improve our defense to make this a legitimate Super Bowl contender. Not who's going to be our QB, we already have one. We'd be stupid to let him go. If it was so easy to produce a QB better than TT the Bills would already have one. We haven't had anyone better in 17 years. The playoffs are a matchup game. Yes, it's possible the Bills could beat a Houston or Kansas City type team in the playoffs. But we've seen repeatedly what happens when we play a motivated Brady-Pats team, we saw what happened when we played the Steelers, eventually you are going to run into a game where you need to outscore the opposing team. With Tyrod at QB the team is not built to win those types of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 gotta factor to who he was throwing to as well there were games when goodwin was the primary wr...that guy silply does not fight for the ball Everyone but Taylors fault by John from Hemet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) Everyone but Taylors fault by John from Hemet It's incredible because Goodwin had one play that he didn't out jump a guy when TT under threw him and John uses it to paint the entire season. Edited February 16, 2017 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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