Dr.Sack Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 It is an empirical fact that right to work state workers make 3.2% less or $1500 less per year. This should be interesting and put Trump at odds with the neoliberal recalcitrant GOP old guard. http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/gop-introduces-national-right-to-work-legislation/article/2613428 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) Despite millions spent in opposition, this occurred yesterday. Right to Work passes Mo. House, sent to Gov. Greitens | KSDK.com www.ksdk.com/news/politics/right-to-work-passes-mo-house-sent-to.../39588853 12 hours ago Republican gains in state legislatures across the country will mean more right-to-work laws (RTW) are coming – and this is great for young workers. RTW gives employees a choice to join a union or not. States without RTW laws allow some job sectors to force employees into union memberships and pay union dues whether they want to or not. These dues go to pay union bosses who can make up to six figures and also go to support political candidates – almost always Democrats. RTW simply gives an employee a choice whether or not they wish to join a union. Millennial workers have good reason not to join a union. Major union organizations place priority on job tenure over job performance. If downsizing is necessary, unions look to cut the least tenured workers – even if they happen to be the best at their job. Millennials have nothing to gain by contributing to such an arrangement. . Edited February 3, 2017 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Hey Nut...look on the bright side. The income of union workers can go up over $2K a year now that they're not forced to give that money to the union. So some of them will actually get a raise! Plus, it's always been a liberal demand to get big business money out of political campaigns. Buy reducing the amount that unions are able to shake down from employees, this definitely helps reduce the role that big companies like SEIU plays in getting people elected. Sounds like a great idea. You should be thrilled with it. Oh, wait. Let me guess. How can we help the average working joe if we can't force him to belong to our group and pay us money to have a job? Yeah. Shoulda known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Millennials have nothing to gain by contributing to such an arrangement. .Well...there is that collective bargaining thing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 .Well...there is that collective bargaining thing.... As usual with Baskin; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 As usual with Baskin; Mr. Cut and Paste GOP operative is now insulting people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Mr. Cut and Paste GOP operative is now insulting people? [This is an automated response.] You're not trying to make a point, you're just a jerk. Created by DC Tom-bot, beta version 0.61. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg F Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 It is an empirical fact that right to work state workers make 3.2% less or $1500 less per year. This should be interesting and put Trump at odds with the neoliberal recalcitrant GOP old guard. http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/gop-introduces-national-right-to-work-legislation/article/2613428 From BLS: https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/ecec.pdf Total employer compensation costs for private industry workers averaged $32.27 per hour worked in September 2016. Total employer compensation costs for state and local government workers averaged $45.93 per hour worked in September 2016. Private industry workers make almost 30% less than state and local government workers making the 3.2% a bit of a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 It is an empirical fact that right to work state workers make 3.2% less or $1500 less per year. How much do they pay in union dues, on average? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 How much do they pay in union dues, on average? $1499!! Can't you see? They're making less! And it's not just a fact! It's an empirical fact, which is a better fact than just a regular fact! Because it's emperical! You know who else was emperical? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) Proud Boys https://twitter.com/GorillaRadio_Tv/status/827393757108588548 Edited February 3, 2017 by HoF Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Proud Boys https://twitter.com/GorillaRadio_Tv/status/827393757108588548 From the responses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Proud Boys https://twitter.com/GorillaRadio_Tv/status/827393757108588548 Every time a liberal screams, ten more people vote Trump in 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Every time a liberal screams, ten more people vote Trump in 2020. i wish it was that true. north carolina is a microcosm of what will happen. in 2012 when mcrory was elected the press and national collective of democrats focused their phazers on mccrory. from fake news to sensationalism to everything we see going on with trump currently. i think there will be too much against trump in the retarded masses of this country that we will end up going back to the D in 2020 and it will likely have to be a more centralized d to take the middle ground voters from the right. there aren't many options for that - booker? hillary again!? who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 i wish it was that true. north carolina is a microcosm of what will happen. in 2012 when mcrory was elected the press and national collective of democrats focused their phazers on mccrory. from fake news to sensationalism to everything we see going on with trump currently. i think there will be too much against trump in the retarded masses of this country that we will end up going back to the D in 2020 and it will likely have to be a more centralized d to take the middle ground voters from the right. there aren't many options for that - booker? hillary again!? who? Nope. I think there is a "real talk" generation coming up, that will add to the ranks on the Right. The Progressives are full of ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 lol. the cycle of partisan wet dreams never ends the right will rule for a long time. oh wait its the left that will perpetually win. oh hey now im sure the right has the stranglehold the country has changed forever! no im sure this time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 lol. the cycle of partisan wet dreams never ends the right will rule for a long time. oh wait its the left that will perpetually win. oh hey now im sure the right has the stranglehold the country has changed forever! no im sure this time! they're both the same thing, you nitwit. Nope. I think there is a "real talk" generation coming up, that will add to the ranks on the Right. The Progressives are full of ****. the real talk generation is too young to vote and yet to be indoctrinated in the school system farce we have and the incredible colleges we support. those 15-25 now are so fully caught up in the rights of everyone that they forget their own rights and those whom are not marching and crying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 lol. the cycle of partisan wet dreams never ends the right will rule for a long time. oh wait its the left that will perpetually win. oh hey now im sure the right has the stranglehold the country has changed forever! no im sure this time! The only way either party ever gets that much control is if they outlaw the other party. And I expect someone's going to try that in my lifetime. Probably the Democrats, trying to get the Republican Party outlawed as a hate group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 The only way either party ever gets that much control is if they outlaw the other party. And I expect someone's going to try that in my lifetime. Probably the Democrats, trying to get the Republican Party outlawed as a hate group. And then the snowflakes will change the American flag to just be a white cloth with a picture of a puppy and a can of Play-doh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted February 3, 2017 Author Share Posted February 3, 2017 States Rights??? What the hell are states rights? Gerluch is a states rights guy......hey that's clever Trump! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 they're both the same thing, you nitwit. the real talk generation is too young to vote and yet to be indoctrinated in the school system farce we have and the incredible colleges we support. those 15-25 now are so fully caught up in the rights of everyone that they forget their own rights and those whom are not marching and crying. They will be in 8 years. Also, there will doubtlessly be lots more terrorist acts and rapes throughout Europe in the coming years, for voters to reflect on. Add that the Democratic Party is eating itself, and that lots of the Sixties boomers won't be around to vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 They will be in 8 years. Also, there will doubtlessly be lots more terrorist acts and rapes throughout Europe in the coming years, for voters to reflect on. Add that the Democratic Party is eating itself, and that lots of the Sixties boomers won't be around to vote. in 8 years they will be 18-24ish. they won't vote. they never vote at that age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 they're both the same thing, you nitwit. you seeeriously need a sarcasm meter calibration They will be in 8 years. idk man. seems like epic miracle proportions that don will survive even a single term without seriously damaging his presidential brand. and right or wrong that always leads back to the party brand. snarky toms point of very few seats available for dem flips might magnify the voters zeal for a swing back away from the right via the next executive election. thats what i would be ѕhitting in my boots about if i was a republican politician. one term. woo fkg hoo. and now with a tattered brand that seems waaay more likely to me. but wtf who knows. maybe don will surprise me. hahahhahahahaaa. wait let me try again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted February 4, 2017 Author Share Posted February 4, 2017 (edited) This just in, Boeing SC is doing a multimillionaire ad buy to defeat unionization efforts by the International Machinists Union. Imagine what a big defeat this would be to big bad Boeing. Edited February 4, 2017 by Dr.Sack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 It is an empirical fact that right to work state workers make 3.2% less or $1500 less per year. This should be interesting and put Trump at odds with the neoliberal recalcitrant GOP old guard. http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/gop-introduces-national-right-to-work-legislation/article/2613428 Are those the same blue states where rent is $4,000/month? It always make me laugh when liberals bring up that blue states workers make more than red state workers. Enjoy that 100sq/foot studio apartment Snowflake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 It is an empirical fact that right to work state workers make 3.2% less or $1500 less per year. This should be interesting and put Trump at odds with the neoliberal recalcitrant GOP old guard. http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/gop-introduces-national-right-to-work-legislation/article/2613428 With all due respect and any copyright royalties to Chef Jim... I'll take why Leftists still haven't figured why they lost in November for $1000..... Got nothing to do with the old school Labor vs Capital, Worker vs Management, Proletariat vs Burgouise,Us vs Them model that Lefties have been drooling over since Marx thru Pikkety, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted February 4, 2017 Author Share Posted February 4, 2017 (edited) I see a lot of commenters on here keep on regurgitating Chicago school neoliberal establishmentarian economics. Have we really digressed into an era where empirical evidentiary facts are dismissed as "political"? If climate change is real, and it is as confirmed by 99% of all scientists & even the NSA & the CIA agree, then can we also use empirical data which clearly show right to work state workers make 3.2% less? That is a fact. Let's debate in a fact based world. If you don't like opinions, fine. But come with facts. It should be also pointed out that private sector union membership is near a 100 year old low. The correlation & causation can be blamed on many factors, but there can be no denying the fact that Trump WON the vast majority of private sector union workers in the mid west. Why not embrace this new coalition instead of attacking it? Edited February 4, 2017 by Dr.Sack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 unions certainly have made their own beds that has led to a dramatic drop in their own relevancy but lets not forget why unions became popular and functional in the first place. if we swing the pendulum back too far we quite possibly could reopen the door to overt employee exploitation in whatever forms that would take. so balance as usual is probably key here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Proud Boys https://twitter.com/GorillaRadio_Tv/status/827393757108588548 She's Rebecca Goyette and she's been doing this kind of schtick for quite awhile. She's truly unbalanced as is her troupe of useful idiots she performs with. They're poster children for the Democrat party of the 21st Century. http://archive.is/7cqFd Here she lets her freaky out in Zappaesque fantasies: http://www.rebogallery.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 I see a lot of commenters on here keep on regurgitating Chicago school neoliberal establishmentarian economics. Have we really digressed into an era where empirical evidentiary facts are dismissed as "political"? If climate change is real, and it is as confirmed by 99% of all scientists & even the NSA & the CIA agree, then can we also use empirical data which clearly show right to work state workers make 3.2% less? That is a fact. Let's debate in a fact based world. If you don't like opinions, fine. But come with facts. It should be also pointed out that private sector union membership is near a 100 year old low. The correlation & causation can be blamed on many factors, but there can be no denying the fact that Trump WON the vast majority of private sector union workers in the mid west. Why not embrace this new coalition instead of attacking it? Confirmed by 99% of scientists. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 I see a lot of commenters on here keep on regurgitating Chicago school neoliberal establishmentarian economics. Have we really digressed into an era where empirical evidentiary facts are dismissed as "political"? If climate change is real, and it is as confirmed by 99% of all scientists & even the NSA & the CIA agree, then can we also use empirical data which clearly show right to work state workers make 3.2% less? That is a fact. Let's debate in a fact based world. If you don't like opinions, fine. But come with facts. It should be also pointed out that private sector union membership is near a 100 year old low. The correlation & causation can be blamed on many factors, but there can be no denying the fact that Trump WON the vast majority of private sector union workers in the mid west. Why not embrace this new coalition instead of attacking it? That's not a fact, it's an average that stomps facts into mush until they're indistinguishable from dogma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted February 4, 2017 Author Share Posted February 4, 2017 That's not a fact, it's an average that stomps facts into mush until they're indistinguishable from dogma. Show me the climate scientists who say the earth isn't warming, and I'll show you an Exxon Mobil shill. We've saw this before with Big Tobacco buying off medical doctors and suppressing facts that tobacco causes cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 (edited) Show me the climate scientists who say the earth isn't warming, and I'll show you an Exxon Mobil shill. We've saw this before with Big Tobacco buying off medical doctors and suppressing facts that tobacco causes cancer. I have an idea: let's stop giving billions of dollars in federal funds to everyone who says the earth is warming, and let's see how many 'scientists' are still worried about global warming cooling climate change. I suspect there will suddenly be an influx in 'crowd scientists.' Edited February 4, 2017 by LABillzFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Show me the climate scientists who say the earth isn't warming, and I'll show you an Exxon Mobil shill. We've saw this before with Big Tobacco buying off medical doctors and suppressing facts that tobacco causes cancer. 1) I was talking about your bull **** wage comparison. 2) Clown question, bro. Your definition of "climate scientist" excludes anyone who says the earth isn't warming. It's unanswerable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 (edited) Show me the climate scientists who say the earth isn't warming, and I'll show you an Exxon Mobil shill. We've saw this before with Big Tobacco buying off medical doctors and suppressing facts that tobacco causes cancer. I'll consider taking global warming climate change alarmism a bit more seriously once the zealots start proposing solution that address, you know... global warming climate change, as opposed to a massive global wealth redistribution scheme. Edited February 4, 2017 by TakeYouToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 I'll consider taking global warming climate change alarmism a bit more seriously once the zealots start proposing solution that address, you know... global warming climate change, as opposed to a massive global wealth redistribution scheme. Now, now...we have those cool twistie light bulbs that cost $18 a bulb, but sometimes they last a whole two months. And don't forget the global shift once we finished the Cash for Clunkers programs. I can feel the globe cooling as I type this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted February 5, 2017 Author Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) Now, now...we have those cool twistie light bulbs that cost $18 a bulb, but sometimes they last a whole two months. And don't forget the global shift once we finished the Cash for Clunkers programs. I can feel the globe cooling as I type this. The last project I worked on removed 220,000 kWh a year from the customers electric usage or the equivalency of 164,000 pounds of coal burned in one year. That's a CO2 reduction of 155 metric tons. Smoking doesn't cause cancer says 1 "doctor" out of 100. So D.C. Tom & LA Bills fan start smoking. Edited February 5, 2017 by Dr.Sack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Back at the thread............. GOP Introduces Right To Work Legislation Reps. Joe Wilson of South Carolina and Steve King of Iowa are sponsoring the legislation, which would amend the National Labor Relations Act and the Railway Labor Act to prohibit what unions call "security clauses." These are provisions that permit union-management contracts that require all employees to join a union or pay one a regular fee as a condition of employme (Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ... Kentucky Becomes Nation's 27th Right-to-Work State [Michigan ... https://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/kentucky-becomes-nations-27th-right-t... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg F Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 The last project I worked on removed 220,000 kWh a year from the customers electric usage ... How long did it take you to change all those light bulbs? Smoking doesn't cause cancer says 1 "doctor" out of 100. So D.C. Tom & LA Bills fan start smoking. You no doubt would have jumped right on the Eugenics bandwagon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) The last project I worked on removed 220,000 kWh a year from the customers electric usage or the equivalency of 164,000 pounds of coal burned in one year. That's a CO2 reduction of 155 metric tons. Smoking doesn't cause cancer says 1 "doctor" out of 100. So D.C. Tom & LA Bills fan start smoking. You truly don't know a goddamn thing I think about the subject. And your math is wrong, you retard. And no one was talking about global warming in this thread anyway. You ever going to get back to the subject of the thread you started? Edited February 5, 2017 by DC Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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