Fadingpain Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 I hadn't realized you thought then and now that Chris Hogan would have solved all the Bills' problems in 2016. Tell me more about why you mentioned his franchise record in response to the middling numbers he put up over the course of the season. Couldn't help but notice you strayed from that assertion. Hey, Whaley doubled down for Sammy! Guess he thought a WR would solve all our problems too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianFan Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 Stop reading them. If no one clicked, he's be fired. But the haters read his crap more than the people that think he's ok. I haven't read one of his articles in a couple years now. #stopclicking lol ur right. I unlinked it. Time to send him to Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 That was Hogan's biggest game as a Patriot because that's how the Pats gameplan. Take their least used player and make them the focus. That's why Hogan was so wide open. The Steelers never imagined he'd be the guy, because he never was before. It would be like making Walt Powell the guy in a Bills game. Its amazing how few people around here understand this part of BB genius given how often we all get to watch him do this. Very good post sir and 100% spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Nice life. There's the white flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 After living in a few cities and checking out their newspapers, I really like the Buffalo News. But the sports writers give more opinions than they actually do any informative articles. It's a good and bad thing about Buffalo. Good: Bills obsession means more sports reporters/columnists devoted to the Bills than you'll find in any other city's newspaper(s). Bad: so many reporters/columnists chasing the same few stories/themes = lots of recycled junk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 good perspective. Ok I'll pity the guy. Or not! I recall a WGR talk show recently where the hosts said it's easier as a sports journalist to cover bad teams bec. there's more to talk about than good teams. So Jerry, get CREATIVE! Sully always claims his mailbag column gets more questions when the Bills are going bad. I don't get it. When the Bills are going bad, I really am not going to be more interested. Stop reading them. If no one clicked, he's be fired. But the haters read his crap more than the people that think he's ok. I haven't read one of his articles in a couple years now. #stopclicking He'll never get fired because of the union. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 It's really simple. Bills had crappy WR's for most of the year. They let a WR go for $700k and no compensation Said WR puts up numbers that would've led the team, both in yards and TD's. Said WR puts up a record-shattering playoff game performance in the second biggest stage in the NFL and almost singlehandedly wins them the game (as singlehandedly as any WR can win one, obviously the QB needs to throw it) And he does this all with a division rival that has buried us for almost 20 years. If you think anyone is going to "shut up" about that, you're delusional. What's delusional is not acknowledging a key fact. if Hogan had been tendered at a number requiring compensation of a second round pick to the Bills, he'd still be in Buffalo as no one ( particularly the Pats) would give that up. They would merely have signed a different player. It's also likely they would have gotten similar production out of said player. Hogan didn't do anything remarkable to get open. PIT secondary made huge gaffes and TB made them pay. So what? He could do that with any number of players at WR. But continuing to act like the Bills cost themselves a 2nd round pick is silly. No team was going to pay that. His best attribute as a FA was being available. Its amazing how few people around here understand this part of BB genius given how often we all get to watch him do this. Very good post sir and 100% spot on. Except he doesn't run the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TANK2 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I've had beef w/ Sullivan plenty of times over the years, but this isn't one of them. Hogan is having a really good season. It wasn't just one game. He had 95 yards receiving in the Pats first playoff game. As was pointed out in the article, he had more receiving yards this year than any Bills player. Of course, Brady is the key, no one is denying that. But plenty of wideouts have played with Brady without putting up close to 300 yards and two TDs in two playoff games. Given how thin we were at WR this year, letting Hogan walk WAS a bad move. Jerry Sullivan is a dope but he's not the problem. Doug Whaley GTFO Sorry but Im not losing sleep over 38 catches for 680 yards and four tds when Brady is your qb and Garapollo looked like Brady Jr when Brady was out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) Sullivan: "Mission accomplished."I just don't understand why people take him seriously. His entire job description boils down to authoring articles criticizing everything the about local sports team in retrospect he possibly can. Here is what isn't: - fairness - levity - benefit of doubt - empathy - strict interpretation of facts - genuineness - consistency - positivity - problem solvin - prediction Edited January 30, 2017 by Over 28 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulles Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Hogan's got a long way to go to even just be Deion Branch? Who you say? Exactly. Good historical citation...Funny how he went to Seattle after he won the SB MVP, only to flame out and return to NE humbled, late in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liverpoolkev Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 TBN Jerry Sullivan: hogan-emergence-crowning-insult-bills (unlinked on purpose!) Hogan's "emergence"? Honestly? One freak playoff game and Jerry's calling him the next coming of Jerry Rice? "crowning insult"? Did the Pats steal the Superbowl appearance from the Bills because they took this WR from them? Oh yeah, that's a no Jerry. "N" "O" Jerry, put it together. This was no robbery. Sullivan should be FIRED. He has no JUDGEMENT. Was Hogan even worthy of consideration as a pro-bowl alternate? And who got a pro-bowl start? Lorenzo Alexander. Are raiders nation crying about it? Cardinals? Or the perpetually mediocre despite the dollars spent Washington Redskins? Do you think they'd love to have the tackles and sacks LA had this past year? How about Jerry Hughes? Are Pats lamenting the loss of this talent? Heck no. Hogan is a marginal talent at best. On a team that's known for not paying for talent (see Jamie Collins) Hogan's production this past year must be a disappointment for the dollars they paid him - 6th highest paid Pat in terms of cap. 38 balls for 680 yards, in a year when Gronk was missing most of the season. That's 15% of total receiving production. Or 11% of total offensive production. and you gave your 6th highest salary for this? Ouch! For a stingy team this has to hurt. Heck any turtle with hands would have caught the 40 balls Hogan caught from Brady. Heck Jerry (Sullivan, not Rice) could have caught those 40 balls. So this was a win Jerry. We shafted Pats by forcing them to pay for Hogan. Honestly, in a season of near-miss disappointments, Hogan was the least of the issues. And oh yeah, Jerry, Hogan's old news. That was a week ago Jerry. Might as well have been last century. Get over it Jerry. Time to move on. Hogan's a marginal talent. Players like him come and go faster than sailors making port calls in the NFL. I had to go dig up that analogy from 19th century you ancient anachronism. That ship's sailed. Got that one Jerry? Cheers! nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 What's delusional is not acknowledging a key fact. if Hogan had been tendered at a number requiring compensation of a second round pick to the Bills, he'd still be in Buffalo as no one ( particularly the Pats) would give that up. They would merely have signed a different player. It's also likely they would have gotten similar production out of said player. Hogan didn't do anything remarkable to get open. PIT secondary made huge gaffes and TB made them pay. So what? He could do that with any number of players at WR. But continuing to act like the Bills cost themselves a 2nd round pick is silly. No team was going to pay that. His best attribute as a FA was being available. Except he doesn't run the offense. I think BB's offensive contributions are underestimated because of his defensive background. At Cleveland BB didn't have a OC. He claimed the O was run by committee but the reality was that he was the acting OC. Just look at the continuity on the offensive side of the ball in New England. OCs come and go but the offensive philosophy remains the same. That's BB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I think BB's offensive contributions are underestimated because of his defensive background. At Cleveland BB didn't have a OC. He claimed the O was run by committee but the reality was that he was the acting OC. Just look at the continuity on the offensive side of the ball in New England. OCs come and go but the offensive philosophy remains the same. That's BB. Umm Weis,McDaniels, O'brien, then McDaniels again.. only been 3. On D I THINK it's roughly the same.. Romeo, Mangini, (no one), Patricia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I think BB's offensive contributions are underestimated because of his defensive background. At Cleveland BB didn't have a OC. He claimed the O was run by committee but the reality was that he was the acting OC. Just look at the continuity on the offensive side of the ball in New England. OCs come and go but the offensive philosophy remains the same. That's BB. What continuity on offense? They won their first super bowls with a screen game and run heavy ball control offense, then picked up Moss and Welker and broke passing records. When Moss reached the end of his term and Welker was in decline we saw the two tight end sets that ripped the league a new one. And when one of those tight ends went to prison on a life sentence and the other one broke down, we get the all honkey quick timing, pick play offense with underinflated balls and illegal substitutions. Their current offense looks nothing like the schemes that won in 2001. In fact, their offense looks radically different week to week these days. Its opponent specific. The only constant is efficiency and wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I think BB's offensive contributions are underestimated because of his defensive background. At Cleveland BB didn't have a OC. He claimed the O was run by committee but the reality was that he was the acting OC. Just look at the continuity on the offensive side of the ball in New England. OCs come and go but the offensive philosophy remains the same. That's BB. Yes , BB retains staff that will run the same offense when others have left. That continuity has been no small part of the success. He should get credit for knowing that continuing the same successful system as opposed to installing a new one when an assistant departs is probably a good thing. But he doesn't run the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I've had beef w/ Sullivan plenty of times over the years, but this isn't one of them. Hogan is having a really good season. It wasn't just one game. He had 95 yards receiving in the Pats first playoff game. As was pointed out in the article, he had more receiving yards this year than any Bills player. Of course, Brady is the key, no one is denying that. But plenty of wideouts have played with Brady without putting up close to 300 yards and two TDs in two playoff games. Given how thin we were at WR this year, letting Hogan walk WAS a bad move. Jerry Sullivan is a dope but he's not the problem. Doug Whaley GTFO He had 38 catches this season. His last two years in Buff he had 36 and 41. Can we stop making Hogan out to be the second coming. He's okay. Not a huge loss in the grand scheme. And not worth, to the Bills, the contract New England gave him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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