Nanker Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Another USC scandal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Stupid rule. The guy played all season. Opponents can see what's going on. If his injury was limiting him on the field, other teams would have seen it, exactly. This is a very stupid rule. If they hid him from the report the week leading to a game and then suddenly he is out, that's different. But this is total nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 dumb rule but also equally dumb for violating it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Every other team has to follow the injury reporting rules, which are negotiated by both the players and owners in the CBA. Seahawks blatantly broke the rule and publicly admitted doing so. Punishment well deserved. Every effing team does it. Including the Bills. See above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 @AdamSchefter Seattle may lose 2nd-round pick in 2017 draft as a result of season-long failure to disclose knee injury to Richard Sherman, per @mortreport That's OK, they can use their 12th man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 There is zero advantage to not reporting an injury on a guy who clearly isn't hampered by the injury. This rule makes no sense if a guy is playing every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 That is flat out ridiculous. Teams hide injuries for good reason - other teams target such players to exacerbate injuries. The NFL needs to wake up to the real problem, which is the latter, not the former. They're more worried about gambling spreads than the health of their players and always have been. I agree with your main point that there shouldn't be rules in are more worried about gambling spreads than the health of the players. That said, it's still a rule, the teams know it is and when you break the rules you face the consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 There is zero advantage to not reporting an injury on a guy who clearly isn't hampered by the injury. This rule makes no sense if a guy is playing every week. So a team wouldn't target the injury if they were aware of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Why is it so hard for Seahawks to just say Sherman, knee, probable, full participant? Simple rule. Follow it or get punsihed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortunesmith Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) Every team is expected to follow all of the rules or risk getting punished. Debating whether the rule is stupid is irrelevant to that point. The NFL has this rule so bettors with inside information can't gain an advantage when gambling on a game. However, since teams now have to let the world know who's injured, hiding players from the list is creating an unfair advantage for your team (avoid opponents from targeting an injured player, etc.) If a team truly feels listing a player on the injury report would compromise the safety of the player, then perhaps he shouldn't be playing. Edited January 19, 2017 by Fortunesmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 So a team wouldn't target the injury if they were aware of it? Every team they played had every opportunity to injure Sherman's knees, whether they were already injured or not. What if his injury was thrombosed hemorrhoid, and he was able to play through the pain? That should be reported too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Stupid rule. The guy played all season. Opponents can see what's going on. If his injury was limiting him on the field, other teams would have seen it, Not a stupid rule say a player sues the NFL b.c of it. People used to do it to McDonalds b.c they were dumb and drank hot coffee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) Every team is expected to follow all of the rules or risk getting punished. Debating whether the rule is stupid is irrelevant to that point. The NFL has this rule so bettors with inside information can't gain an advantage when gambling on a game. However, since teams now have to let the world know who's injured, hiding players from the list is creating an unfair advantage for your team (avoid opponents from targeting an injured player, etc.) If a team truly feels listing a player on the injury report would compromise the safety of the player, then perhaps he shouldn't be playing. Should the Bills surrender a second round pick for not reporting Robert Woods' torn groin in the latter games of the 2015 season? They in fact didn't report it. Woods had surgery on it and stated after the season that it had hampered him for weeks. More broadly, check out all of the surgeries for all of the players across the league that will occur over the next two months and then check to see if they were all on injury reports late in the season. If you think that most were on it, I suspect you'll be very surprised. I also think that you'll see that every team does this. Remember those post-season surgeries Lee Evans used to have? He wasn't on any injury reports in at least one and perhaps more of the late game-parts of those seasons. This penalty is a freaking joke. Edited January 19, 2017 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Not a stupid rule say a player sues the NFL b.c of it. People used to do it to McDonalds b.c they were dumb and drank hot coffee. Jeez, where to start on this post...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortunesmith Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Should the Bills surrender a second round pick for not reporting Robert Woods' torn groin in the latter games of the 2015 season? They in fact didn't report it. Woods had surgery on it and stated after the season that it had hampered him for weeks. More broadly, check out all of the surgeries for all of the players across the league that will occur over the next two months and then check to see if they were all on injury reports late in the season. If you think that most were on it, I suspect you'll be very surprised. I also think that you'll see that every team does this. Remember those post-season surgeries Lee Evans used to have? He wasn't on any injury reports in at least one and perhaps more of the late game-parts of those seasons. This penalty is a freaking joke. Yes, I expect the Bills to get punished for skirting the rules, if that is the case. Again, it doesn't matter if you think the rule is bad - it was collectively bargained as such. My biggest takeaway from this ordeal is it's probably best for teams to not to publicly admit when they break the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Not a stupid rule say a player sues the NFL b.c of it. People used to do it to McDonalds b.c they were dumb and drank hot coffee. I don't know how to respond to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 they only say its a knee injury, but the truth is that he was rightfully castrated. it'd have been more complicated but he only needed a bandaid once removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortunesmith Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) Should the Bills surrender a second round pick for not reporting Robert Woods' torn groin in the latter games of the 2015 season? They in fact didn't report it. Woods had surgery on it and stated after the season that it had hampered him for weeks. I just checked - Robert Woods was on the injury report pretty much all season in 2015, starting in week 1. He apparently tore it in training camp, according to the old articles. Albeit the Bills were reporting a hip injury, but perhaps they are not required report more than one ailment per player. Edited January 19, 2017 by Fortunesmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Every other team has to follow the injury reporting rules, which are negotiated by both the players and owners in the CBA. Seahawks blatantly broke the rule and publicly admitted doing so. Punishment well deserved. So didnt Bills and every other team. But ok Why is it so hard for Seahawks to just say Sherman, knee, probable, full participant? Simple rule. Follow it or get punsihed. So Bills ready to give up your pick for Taylor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 I just checked - Robert Woods was on the injury report pretty much all season in 2015, starting in week 1. He apparently tore it in training camp, according to the old articles. Albeit the Bills were reporting a hip injury, but perhaps they are not required report more than one ailment per player. You've got to wonder why a player didn't "target" it. Like someone above said: Sherman Leg Injury Probable - Done. So didnt Bills and every other team. But ok So Bills ready to give up your pick for Taylor? Taylor was on the report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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