Deranged Rhino Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Kasich has zero chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurmal34 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 21 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Kasich has zero chance. Maybe he wont grow the trade gap by $100 billion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 That's likely true... because he won't be president and thus won't have the opportunity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 4 hours ago, Thurmal34 said: Wasn't sure whether to post this here or start a new thread. Given the fragile and reactionary nature of the posting base here I thought in thread was best. Trade deficit grows by 100 billion under Trump: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-economy-trade/u-s-trade-deficit-hits-10-year-high-in-2018-on-record-imports-idUSKCN1QN1M4?feedType=RSS&feedName=businessNews maybe an adult like Kasich will win in 2020. please. Tiberius posted this earlier. Two related ponts: one, global trading patterns are developed over time as firms make decisions on where to produce and source. Given the significant outsourcing of US production to China and Mexico, trying to change those patterns will take several years at best. Two, Given those current production and sourcing patterns, the "propensity to import" out of income is much higher for the US than the rest of the world's propensity to import US goods. As a consequence, even if the US and world incomes grow by the same rate, the US trade deficit will grow. In 2018, The US grew faster than most countries, which caused the deficit to widen even faster. Until we start making massed-produced consumption goods here, that pattern won't change. An example to help. For every $100 of income growth, the US imports $20; for the rest of the world, they import $15 of US goods for every $100. So even if income is growing at the same rate globally, the US deficit will go up--if global growth goes up by $100, US imports grow by $20 and exports by $15. if the US grows faster than the rest of the world, as happened in 2018, then the trade deficit will grow even wider. This also explains why the only time you see the trade deficit shrink is during a US recession--as income falls, our imports fall faster than our exports. Trump is a victim of his expansionary Keynesian policies last year....and bringing home production will take time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 On 3/9/2019 at 7:49 AM, TPS said: Tiberius posted this earlier. Two related ponts: one, global trading patterns are developed over time as firms make decisions on where to produce and source. Given the significant outsourcing of US production to China and Mexico, trying to change those patterns will take several years at best. Two, Given those current production and sourcing patterns, the "propensity to import" out of income is much higher for the US than the rest of the world's propensity to import US goods. As a consequence, even if the US and world incomes grow by the same rate, the US trade deficit will grow. In 2018, The US grew faster than most countries, which caused the deficit to widen even faster. Until we start making massed-produced consumption goods here, that pattern won't change. An example to help. For every $100 of income growth, the US imports $20; for the rest of the world, they import $15 of US goods for every $100. So even if income is growing at the same rate globally, the US deficit will go up--if global growth goes up by $100, US imports grow by $20 and exports by $15. if the US grows faster than the rest of the world, as happened in 2018, then the trade deficit will grow even wider. This also explains why the only time you see the trade deficit shrink is during a US recession--as income falls, our imports fall faster than our exports. Trump is a victim of his expansionary Keynesian policies last year....and bringing home production will take time. Nah....I am pretty sure DT has no real clue what he is doing....his domestic policies are special interest driven and his international policies are cave man level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, TH3 said: Nah....I am pretty sure DT has no real clue what he is doing....his domestic policies are special interest driven and his international policies are cave man level yet he's POTUS and you are giving free comment on a side portion of a terrible football team board... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, TH3 said: Nah....I am pretty sure DT has no real clue what he is doing....his domestic policies are special interest driven and his international policies are cave man level "Cave man level" TDS is a hell of an affliction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, row_33 said: yet he's POTUS and you are giving free comment on a side portion of a terrible football team board... That's 'second rate football team' to you, bub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 24 minutes ago, TH3 said: Nah....I am pretty sure DT has no real clue what he is doing....his domestic policies are special interest driven and his international policies are cave man level ? TDS is a helluva drug. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 25 minutes ago, Koko78 said: That's 'second rate football team' to you, bub. the litany.... started watching them when as a gimmick they ran Juice every play until he was broken bad, Earl Campbell faced the same fate... so for 46 or so years... 6 great years with Kelly 6 good to very years on top of this (one with Juice, one or two with Cribbs, whatever 3-4 other years of decent football) the rest were total garbage to mediocre.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, row_33 said: the litany.... started watching them when as a gimmick they ran Juice every play until he was broken bad, Earl Campbell faced the same fate... so for 46 or so years... 6 great years with Kelly 6 good to very years on top of this (one with Juice, one or two with Cribbs, whatever 3-4 other years of decent football) the rest were total garbage to mediocre.... But this year... this year will be different! Hope springs eternal when you are Buffalo Bills Fan. ? Edited March 10, 2019 by Buffalo_Gal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 19 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: ? TDS is a helluva drug. six more years hope he causes all the TDS-bozos to have a conipppption fit every freakin day.... 16 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: But this year... this year will be different! Hope springs eternal when you a Buffalo Bills Fan. ? of course, of course... the worst i can say is they have a QB with a lot of potential and haven't fallen for a horrible FA signing... so that's Utopia the last 20 seasons... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Yet another example of how hate and bigotry, scapegoating and arrogance (because bigotry is nothing more than arrogance) are harmful and stupid Quote HOMER, N.Y. — The fears weigh on Mike McMahon: If one of his undocumented workers gets a traffic ticket, it could prompt an immigration audit of his entire farm. If another gets detained by immigration agents at a roadside checkpoint or in a supermarket parking lot, the rest may flee. And if his undocumented work force disappears overnight, there is no one to replace them. “It keeps me up at night,” said Mr. McMahon, who owns a dairy farm south of Syracuse. “There are people out there who just say, ‘Send them all back and build a wall.’ But they would be facing empty shelves in the grocery store if that were to happen.” https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/18/nyregion/ny-farmers-undocumented-workers-trump-immigration.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 First off what does this have to do with the "Trump Economy" and second there are ways for farmers to hire non-citizens in a legal fashion. I didn't read the article because it's likely BS but I did search if for the word Visa and surprise surprise nothing came up. Oh and when I was a kid farmers didn't rely on illegals to work the fields. I wonder what happened?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: First off what does this have to do with the "Trump Economy" and second there are ways for farmers to hire non-citizens in a legal fashion. I didn't read the article because it's likely BS but I did search if for the word Visa and surprise surprise nothing came up. Oh and when I was a kid farmers didn't rely on illegals to work the fields. I wonder what happened?? On top of that, there are ways to hire actual citizens for dairy farm work. This guy just wants to skirt paying legal wages and taxes. I have no sympathy for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Koko78 said: On top of that, there are ways to hire actual citizens for dairy farm work. This guy just wants to skirt paying legal wages and taxes. I have no sympathy for him. What do workers, businesses and farms have to do with the economy? ? No sympathy for a business owner who is being strangled by government overreach? This is purely the result of bigotry driven policy. Let the businesses man hire who he wants, citizen or no citizen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 This is one big reason why we need to fix our immigration laws, not just "look-away" like the dems want us to do. People like HAHA Gator don't want to fix the problems because then they can't use those problems to fault the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 42 minutes ago, Koko78 said: On top of that, there are ways to hire actual citizens for dairy farm work. This guy just wants to skirt paying legal wages and taxes. I have no sympathy for him. i have half sympathy for the situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 45 minutes ago, Tiberius said: What do workers, businesses and farms have to do with the economy? ? No sympathy for a business owner who is being strangled by government overreach? This is purely the result of bigotry driven policy. Let the businesses man hire who he wants, citizen or no citizen. So you don't want the evil capitalist business owner paying his 'fair share' of taxes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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