bobobonators Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 You're crazy if you think he's not a hall of famer. When it's all said and done, he'll be top 10 in career passing yds. Probably top 7 in passing TDs, and top 10 in passing completions. Not a hall of fame QB? Give me whatever you're smoking... Not a HOF QB Melvin Gordon was terrible in 2015 and Woodhead has been IRed two years in a row, but please continue on like you know anything about the Chargers besides their record. LMAO. Was Gordon terrible this year? And Woodhead wasnt IRd in 2015. Carry on. #tool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 LMAO. Was Gordon terrible this year? This is what it is like to live in FireChanistan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) Not a HOF QB LMAO. Was Gordon terrible this year? And Woodhead wasnt IRd in 2015. Carry on. #tool 21 games over 3 years. Gordon was really bad in 2015. He was okay in 2016. Edited January 17, 2017 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 21 games over 3 years. Gordon was really bad in 2015. How many games did Woodhead play last year? He had +1,000 all purpose yards. How did Gordon do this year? Maybe you should watch more Chargers games huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) How many games did Woodhead play last year? He had +1,000 all purpose yards. How did Gordon do this year? Maybe you should watch more Chargers games huh? Gordon was okay. Woodhead played 21 games over 3 years. Last I checked, "all-purpose yards" are not rushing yards. Edited January 17, 2017 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Gordon was okay. Woodhead played 21 games over 3 years. You said hes been IRd the past 2 seasons and were an ass about it and low and behold you were wrong. Gordon had +1300 all purpose yards and 12 TD in what 12 games? Yeh he was just ok. Go away. Follow your own recommendation and go watch a Chargers game. Gordon was okay. Woodhead played 21 games over 3 years. Last I checked, "all-purpose yards" are not rushing yards. I said they had two good running backs. Last i checked a running back is allowed to catch a ball in the NFL. Its part of what makes them good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Why do people continue to say that the Chargers have no running game? Melvin Gordon and Danny Woodhead are good RB's. They have no running game b/c SD is a pass-first team for the most part, just like the Bills don't have a passing game b/c they're a run-first team. All those lovely passing stats, and San Diego, since the start of 2015, has scored less points than Buffalo: Buffalo: 778 points. SD: 730 points. But look at those passing yards, surely San Diego must be making it to the playoffs every year. 2010: 9-7 2011: 8-8 2012: 7-9 2013: 9-7 2014: 9-7 2015: 4-12 2016: 5-11 Super Bowl "Have no running game," would be talking about rushing, not passing or all purpose. If you wanna hang your hat on Melvin Gordon's 3.9 YPC (29th in the NFL, btw) have at it. You said hes been IRd the past 2 seasons and were an ass about it and low and behold you were wrong. Gordon had +1300 all purpose yards and 12 TD in what 12 games? Yeh he was just ok. Go away. Follow your own recommendation and go watch a Chargers game. I said they had two good running backs. Last i checked a running back is allowed to catch a ball in the NFL. Its part of what makes them good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 "Have no running game," would be talking about rushing, not passing or all purpose. If you wanna hang your hat on Melvin Gordon's 3.9 YPC (29th in the NFL, btw) have at it. Weird, I thought it was easy to run when you're QB is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) Philip Rivers is not a hall of fame QB- certainly not yet. Numbers are so inflated now, that means very little. Zero Super Bowl appearances trumps your numbers. He's less of a hall of famer than Jim Thome, who will take a while getting in. I'm not sure Rivers was ever considered a top 5 NFL QB at any point in his career. If he plays for a few more years maybe he gets the Bert Blyleven/Goose Gossage lifetime achievement award but as it stands, right behind him (in terms of passing yards) are Bledsoe and Palmer- not hall off famers- and right above him is Testaverde. He's got a ways to go. He definitely is a HOF QB in my book. Is SB appearances a requirement for the HOF? Dan Fouts and Warren Moon have a combined 0 appearances in the SB. But then you have Namath who is in the HOF. There's TONS of players in the HOF that have 0 SB appearances (granted not all are QBs). You're so sure of yourself that Rivers isn't going to go in the HOF because he has 0 SB appearances. I don't believe that at all. So your argument means nothing to me. Edited January 17, 2017 by QuoteTheRaven83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Weird, I thought it was easy to run when you're QB is good. Well, keying in on his ypc helps make his point. Finishing 7th in the NFL with 10 rushing TD's, on the other hand, would not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Well, keying in on his ypc helps make his point. Finishing 7th in the NFL with 10 rushing TD's, on the other hand, would not. That's a deceiving stat that conflates opportunity with ability. The 2016 Chargers were 26th in team rushing yards, 22nd in total rushing TD's (with 10, basically Gordon got all of them instead of a handful going to a backup) and 26th in YPC. In short, their rushing game sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Rivers isn't going to want to play in Buffalo. However, I wouldn't rule out Rivers replacing Palmer in Arizona. CP isn't a starter anymore - and the Cardinals window is open. humm.....I could def see this. But stop it. I want him in Buffalo!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I don't understand what it will take for you guys to understand he's not coming. He has said he's staying in LA multiple times over the past few days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Are there any nice houses on the market with double digit bedrooms? Preferably under a large bubble that provides temps in the 70's year round? I bet Pegula can make one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Side note... Funny enough, it took 12 years to get there, but Rivers is finally seeing exactly what Eli Manning was trying to avoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 @sdutKevinAcee One more time, Philip Rivers is not pushing a trade to 49ers. He has no-trade clause. He's fine with LA. From Philip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Rivers isn't going to want to play in Buffalo. However, I wouldn't rule out Rivers replacing Palmer in Arizona. CP isn't a starter anymore - and the Cardinals window is open. That's a good one, I hadn't thought about AZ. That would actually be a perfect fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 LOL, really? Those are the stats you want to base his projection to the NFL on? First, I don't think you know much about the Clemson offense otherwise you would see that 30 INTs in an offense built on screens, bubble screens and short throws is very concerning. His comp %...come on, its deceptive considering what I just said about the offense and is further enhanced by WR's who can make up for less than accurate throws. Trent Edwards had a high comp % not because he was a good passer, but because his stats were padded by dump offs and short throws. And this is NOT my evaluation...this is why by MOST standards he is widely considered just the 3rd best QB prospect in this draft...mostly considered out of the top 15 overall prospects, and seen some less than 30th on list of overall prospects. This guy you are raving about could go anywhere from the top 10 to the 2nd round. And you know why I don't mention how many Touchdowns, because TD production in college is probably the single LEAST important stat to translating to the NFL. In fact, look at the top 10 all time TD passers in college and please find me one QB that has any value: 1 Case Keenum* 155 Houston 2 Kellen Moore* 142 Boise State 3 Graham Harrell* 134 Texas Tech 4 Colt Brennan* 131 Hawaii 4 tie Rakeem Cato* 131 Marshall 6 Landry Jones* 123 Oklahoma 7 Ty Detmer 121 Brigham Young 7 Tie Aaron Murray* 121 Georgia 9 Timmy Chang* 117 Hawaii 10 Matt Barkley* 116 Southern California How about passing yards all time...on Rivers at #10 proved to be good. 1 Case Keenum* 19217 Houston 2 Timmy Chang* 17072 Hawaii 3 Landry Jones* 16646 Oklahoma 4 Graham Harrell* 15793 Texas Tech 5 Ty Detmer 15031 Brigham Young 6 Kellen Moore* 14667 Boise State 7 Colt Brennan* 14193 Hawaii 8 Rakeem Cato* 14079 Marshall 9 Sean Mannion* 13600 Oregon State 10 Philip Rivers* 13484 North Carolina State The point is...you can look at what ever stats you want...it does NOT change the fact that he is NOT an accurate downfield thrower, and if he was he would be the #1 Prospect in this draft, but he is not even close to that, and he is widely not even considered the #1 player at his position. WHY...because he doesn't have great passing mechanics and struggles with accuracy down field and there are LEGIT question marks about his ability to develop as a PASSER in the NFL. Does it mean he will be a bust, absolutely not...but, he is far from a sure thing and his passing TD's and Yards don't erase his very relevant weaknesses as a passer. And considering the Bills already have a QB who is similar to how he projects, it makes even less sense. This really is all that needs to be said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 @sdutKevinAcee One more time, Philip Rivers is not pushing a trade to 49ers. He has no-trade clause. He's fine with LA. From Philip. Let's breakdown this statement. He's not pushing a trade to 49ers. Doesn't mean he's not willing to go anywhere else, just not SF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Let's breakdown this statement. He's not pushing a trade to 49ers. Doesn't mean he's not willing to go anywhere else, just not SF. Let it go. He'll be a Charger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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