Blokestradamus Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) Thoughts on Josh Dobbs? I kind of look at him as a deep sleeper. He's played a ton of games in the SEC and been productive. He is kind of a poor man's Dak (at least with resume). I haven't really looked much further but would be curious to hear your thoughts. Let's just say, he should stick to Aerospace Engineering. Not drafting that as a QB, even with someone else's pick Would try him as a conversion player, Cordarrelle style..........maybe. Edited January 10, 2017 by Blokestradamus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Are you not concerned about creating a sizable amount of dead money cutting him next year? My understanding was that we had a second year option as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Let's just say, he should stick to Aerospace Engineering. Not drafting that, even with someone else's pick Thought that he may be worth a late round flier but that answers my question. Thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Thoughts on Josh Dobbs? I kind of look at him as a deep sleeper. He's played a ton of games in the SEC and been productive. He is kind of a poor man's Dak (at least with resume). I haven't really looked much further but would be curious to hear your thoughts. Call me a homer, but if you want Discount Dak, you look at Jerod Evans in the 4th to 6th round range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I talked to one of my friends that is a scouting guru(amateur scout that wrote articles for some of the big sites). He likes Watson and thinks he could do well in the right environment. But he is not someone to spend a top ten pick on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Tyrod's a 2 time pro bowler dude. When will they learn ? Just saying we went from 2017 being considered a bad year for QBs to thinking there will be several QBs taken top 10. The same thing happened in 2013. QB fever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 So your theory is, Other QB's have failed so Watson will to? Based on this we should just draft whomever the QB is for Michigan, Tennessee or Purdue. Thats where Brady,Manning and Breese are from. obviously that means success. I believe his theory is - using a single game as evidence that a player is amazing is not an accurate judge of their future abilities in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 My understanding was that we had a second year option as well. Not that I'm aware of. $15.5m option bonus, $12m base salary for 2017 and $3.25m of his 2018 salary guaranteed on March 11th. Remaining $9.75m of his 2018 base guaranteed on 3rd day of 2018 league year. If the numbers are right, we'd owe him $12,4m prorated option bonus, $2.04m in signing bonus plus the $3.25m guaranteed on signing for a 2018 cut. That comes to $17.69 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Juggernaut Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Don't be surprised when you see the name Mahomes jump up a lot of draft boards. Maybe as far as #3 behind Trubisky and Kizer. Rocket and accurate arm, beautiful deep ball, extends plays with his feet.....yes, I know, gimmicky offense, but watch the kid play. Could be a great grab in 2nd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Call me a homer, but if you want Discount Dak, you look at Jerod Evans in the 4th to 6th round range. I know that you have been beating the drum for him. I like Evans some but admittedly have only seen him a couple of times. I thought that it was a little weird that he came out. I believe his theory is - using a single game as evidence that a player is amazing is not an accurate judge of their future abilities in the NFL. In all fairness he's been the Heisman runner-up twice. He isn't a 1 game wonder for those questioning him. I'm okay with him at 1 but not high on the other QBs. He is a gamer to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Thought that he may be worth a late round flier but that answers my question. Thanks!! Intriguing athlete. Depending on testing numbers, might be worth a late flier as something else. I just don't see an NFL passer with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) I know that you have been beating the drum for him. I like Evans some but admittedly have only seen him a couple of times. I thought that it was a little weird that he came out. In all fairness he's been the Heisman runner-up twice. He isn't a 1 game wonder for those questioning him. I'm okay with him at 1 but not high on the other QBs. He is a gamer to me. Nah, I don't want him here lol. He really should have stayed in school for another year. But he's got the physical comp and playstyle to a T. Dak proved it over a longer period of time in college though. Worth a late round flyer to a team that's set up well at the moment, imo. Edited January 10, 2017 by BuffaloHokie13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Just saying we went from 2017 being considered a bad year for QBs to thinking there will be several QBs taken top 10. The same thing happened in 2013. QB fever.every year it seems, someone gets burned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Bills!!! Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 No way he is around for the Bills in the draft! Also, the first thing he tells his agent is to contact The Bills and say "Oh Hell NO!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Just saying we went from 2017 being considered a bad year for QBs to thinking there will be several QBs taken top 10. The same thing happened in 2013. QB fever. And 2015 and 2016. Some guys always say it's a bad year for QB's, but if you use your eyes, you can pick them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 every year it seems, someone gets burned And every year we also say, next years class is better, followed by draft time saying this years crop sucks, and the next class is better. Rinse and repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Don't be surprised when you see the name Mahomes jump up a lot of draft boards. Maybe as far as #3 behind Trubisky and Kizer. Rocket and accurate arm, beautiful deep ball, extends plays with his feet.....yes, I know, gimmicky offense, but watch the kid play. Could be a great grab in 2nd round.i think you said it yourself, gimmicky offense. Can his play translate? Thats the main issue with all these QBs, they are trained and coached to win in college football. On a seperate note, I'd like to see what the NFL could do with a developmental league, one that runs during the season and could be used for callups, demotions etc. Maybe more guys would reach their potential? And every year we also say, next years class is better, followed by draft time saying this years crop sucks, and the next class is better. Rinse and repeat. yep, 2018 shaping up as an epic qb year. I hear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 It's not merely something that I disagree with. It's something that the vast majority of the football community has laughed at as a joke of a website for nearly a decade. If you're going to borrow opinions, don't do it from that rag. It makes you look like an idiot. This is an ad hominem attack rather than an argument. Why are they bad? I'm not saying you're incorrect, by the way. Is it because that they are the most trafficked site among the non-major media sites and suffer a little bit from football geek jealousy? That's an honest question. I have no idea. In my non-expert opinion, it's basically an OK site that offers some decent analysis. Not saying it's the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Fool's Gold as a QB... Same with Deshone Kizer... I'd convert the both to wideout if I could. This is awesome.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Forget Trubisky, forget Kizer.... DeShaun Watson is the best Quarterback in his draft and it is not even that close. If he is there at 10 (and God knows why he would be) and the Bills pass I will be banging my head against a wall until camp. Kid is legit. That was incredible last night. Oh and where are all the "he's a runner" people today? Cat got their tongue? Bama shut his run game down made him beat them with his arm.... and boy did he? Gotta look at the teams ahead of the #10 pick that need a QB. #1 Cleveland needs a QB #2 San Fran needs a QB #3 Chicago needs a QB #4 Jags #5 Titans #6 Jets need a QB #7 Chargers #8 Panthers #9 Bengals #10 Bills At this point, it might be wiser to look at Mike Williams WR Clemson and the Bills might need to make another Watkins move to get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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