Mr. WEO Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Couple dozen posters will be spotting "silver dollars" on the front of their jeans..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 do we resign or just let him walk? I think this game means less about him being resigned no matter how he does. IMO he will be resigned to a 1 year deal IF they cut bait with TT. If they keep TT then EJ walks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Then What??  Think about it.....  Then he had a very good preseason game against a dispirited NYJ team that has an amazing number of injuries and is largely fielding 2nd string players by now?  Then the alarm goes off and I wake up.  That too  I think it's possible the Bills will offer EJM a backup-money type contract (depending upon how close they feel Cardale is), and he will turn it down to take a backup-money contract somewhere else where he has a clean slate and more chance to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I was watching the Panthers game (his second of the 14 starts) in New York at a sports bar with friends and I remember putting my hands on my head in jovial disbelief saying out loud, "we finally have our guy! We finally have our guy!" He never looked that good ever again. You talk about one bad game like it was an anomaly. The following week against the Jets he looked worse than Taylor ever has. How about the Bucs game that season? In more than half his games as a pro, he has looked A1 atrocious- again, worse than Taylor has ever looked in 29 starts. All that being said, I liked the pick at the time and don't hold it against Whaley. They had to take a QB that year and there wasn't a better option available. Not to mention he squeezed another pick out of it (Alonso -> McCoy) so the Rams could draft Tavon Austin. And to your point, yes, he seems like a very nice young man and I agree he has had a great attitude about the whole thing. Do you remember watching Kyle Orton in that Nate Hackett offense? It was garbage. We got to 9 wins almost purely on defense that year. Â Anyways... I bet the Eejgster looks good today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Do you remember watching Kyle Orton in that Nate Hackett offense? It was garbage. We got to 9 wins almost purely on defense that year. Â Anyways... I bet the Eejgster looks good today. Kyle Orton orchestrated an average passing game with one of the worst run games in the NFL. EJ was a worse passer when we had the #2 rushing attack in the NFL. No, dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I dont know what a BF4E is,i just think its early to give up on a player with 14 starts. Maybe my math is off, but after his 2 starts last year I'm pretty sure he's started 16 games and the Bills have an overall record of 6-10 when he starts. 10 starts in 2013 4 starts in 2014 2 starts in 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jms62 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Maybe my math is off, but after his 2 starts last year I'm pretty sure he's started 16 games and the Bills have an overall record of 6-10 when he starts. 10 starts in 2013 4 starts in 2014 2 starts in 2015 And 1 start this year and out the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 And 1 start this year and out the door. Correct, today will be his 17th start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Then What?? Â Think about it..... it may be Whaley's plan to showcase "his guy" in order to resign him to be our #1 next year. It's sounds like a left field assessment but also a very billsy move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Kyle Orton orchestrated an average passing game with one of the worst run games in the NFL. EJ was a worse passer when we had the #2 rushing attack in the NFL. No, dude. Orton was a 10 year vet. Comparing him to a guy in his first year. EJ was just learning to read an NFL defense. Orton was like watching grass grow then quit on the team. At least EJ had a big arm and took shots downfield. Â Then theres what Watkins said about EJ hittin ya in the back of the helmet if you arent paying attention, the other day. Â Im interested to see if EJ has made the slightest progress in accuracy and ability to read a defense. Even if its a glorified preseason game. I think Whaley is too, i think thats why he is getting the start, not as an audition for the job next year. Maybe my math is off, but after his 2 starts last year I'm pretty sure he's started 16 games and the Bills have an overall record of 6-10 when he starts. 10 starts in 2013 4 starts in 2014 2 starts in 2015 Wait, 2015? Isnt that when he only played the first play of the game in one of those? Cos that was a weird descision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Then What?? Â Think about it..... He then leaves via UFA. Â Not hard here people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Orton was a 10 year vet. Comparing him to a guy in his first year. EJ was just learning to read an NFL defense. Orton was like watching grass grow then quit on the team. At least EJ had a big arm and took shots downfield. Â Then theres what Watkins said about EJ hittin ya in the back of the helmet if you arent paying attention, the other day. Â Im interested to see if EJ has made the slightest progress in accuracy and ability to read a defense. Even if its a glorified preseason game. I think Whaley is too, i think thats why he is getting the start, not as an audition for the job next year. Â Wait, 2015? Isnt that when he only played the first play of the game in one of those? Cos that was a weird descision. No, Tyrod got horsecollared and injured, and EJ started full games against the Bengals and Jaguars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jms62 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 (edited) He then leaves via UFA. Not hard here people Then you have more confidence in Whaleys desperation not to look alike a !@#$up for drafting EJ in the first place. Many of us do not share that confidence. Oh right it wasnt his pick along with Rex.. Edited January 1, 2017 by jms62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekJ Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I'm interested to watch EJ today as well. By and large, we haven't seen this guy play a game in two years. I am hopeful to see some progress (remembering the days before the era of instant gratification re QBs). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 No, Tyrod got horsecollared and injured, and EJ started full games against the Bengals and Jaguars Just looked it up, i still like him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Orton was a 10 year vet. Comparing him to a guy in his first year. EJ was just learning to read an NFL defense. Orton was like watching grass grow then quit on the team. At least EJ had a big arm and took shots downfield. Â Then theres what Watkins said about EJ hittin ya in the back of the helmet if you arent paying attention, the other day. Â Im interested to see if EJ has made the slightest progress in accuracy and ability to read a defense. Even if its a glorified preseason game. I think Whaley is too, i think thats why he is getting the start, not as an audition for the job next year. Â Wait, 2015? Isnt that when he only played the first play of the game in one of those? Cos that was a weird descision. EJ's shots downfield usually landed OOB. Â You brought up Orton and how he looked in Hackett's O. Fact of the matter is he looked a hell of a lot better than "big arm" EJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jms62 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 EJ's shots downfield usually landed OOB. You brought up Orton and how he looked in Hackett's O. Fact of the matter is he looked a hell of a lot better than "big arm" EJ. Which would be a shot in EJ drinking game for an overthrow out of bounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 EJ's shots downfield usually landed OOB. Â You brought up Orton and how he looked in Hackett's O. Fact of the matter is he looked a hell of a lot better than "big arm" EJ. Just admit it already FC, you EeeeeeJ. Â Welcome back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Then you have more confidence in Whaleys desperation not to look alike a !@#$up for drafting EJ in the first place. Many of us do not share that confidence. Oh right it wasnt his pick along with Rex.. Love how EJ gets tied to Whaley TT doesnt  But hey hate on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Love how EJ gets tied to Whaley TT doesnt  But hey hate on TT was Rex's guy. Both said as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 TT was Rex's guy. Both said as much. EJ was a Nix guy then. Â sorry cant have it both ways to paint your agenda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 (edited) EJ was a Nix guy then.  sorry cant have it both ways to paint your agenda Why was EJ a Nix guy? Lots of folks have intimated Whaley had total control following 2012. What's my agenda? Just admit it already FC, you EeeeeeJ.  Welcome back. I just can't quit him. Good to see ya. Edited January 1, 2017 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TANK2 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I dont care if he throws for 1000 yards and 10 tds. Its the Jets and he still sucks. Good luck EJ. Heres a ten dollar watch from Wal-Mart. Have a nice career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 EJ throwing for 5 TDs and 400 yards is slightly less likely than me hooking up with Jennifer Lawrence on Tindr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TANK2 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 EJ was a Nix guy then. Â sorry cant have it both ways to paint your agenda Agenda and dysfunction. The two most overused words when discussing Buffalo Sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatplow Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 would you think of keeping him? Â if the answer is no then why bother playing him ? Simply because he's the next QB up. I do have doubts that he plays the whole game though. At some point I'm pretty sure we'll get a look at Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I dont care if he throws for 1000 yards and 10 tds. Its the Jets and he still sucks. Good luck EJ. Heres a ten dollar watch from Wal-Mart. Have a nice career. really? That would be an amazing feat and you wouldn't care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 It would make him better trade-bait, that's for sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 It would make him better trade-bait, that's for sure... When do we trade UFA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TANK2 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 EJ was a Nix guy then. Â sorry cant have it both ways to paint your agenda Question. It was well known before that draft that Whaley was taking over. Your telling me that Nix makes that pick even if Whaley hates it. Says "look gramps, youve had a heck of a run but EJ really, really, really sucks. Please dont stick me with that loser." That Nix still makes that pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 (edited) Question. It was well known before that draft that Whaley was taking over. Your telling me that Nix makes that pick even if Whaley hates it. Says "look gramps, youve had a heck of a run but EJ really, really, really sucks. Please dont stick me with that loser." That Nix still makes that pick?It was well known Nix wasnt leaving without getting a QB. Ever think the trade down was maybe Whaley trying to minimize it. Â Doesnt really matter want to blame him for EJ have to credit him for Tyrod it really is that simple. Â Everything else is narrative Edited January 1, 2017 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 When do we trade UFA? Â Whoever signs him can offer this 5-TD performance as proof of his value... Once they realize it won't ever happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Maybe my math is off, but after his 2 starts last year I'm pretty sure he's started 16 games and the Bills have an overall record of 6-10 when he starts. 10 starts in 2013 4 starts in 2014 2 starts in 2015 That is irratic and hardly a way to develop a QB. A great way to destroy his confidence though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 (edited) It was well known Nix wasnt leaving without getting a QB. Ever think the trade down was maybe Whaley trying to minimize it. Â Doesnt really matter want to blame him for EJ have to credit him for Tyrod it really is that simple. Â Everything else is narrative So Whaley let Nix pick the 1st player in 2013, then took over the rest of the draft, and Nix rode off into the sunset? Â Sounds believable. What GM wouldn't let a retiree use a first round pick on the most important position in football when it's going to define his career? Edited January 1, 2017 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Also love the arguement saying EJ is not good enough  But same people say TT needs more time to develop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Also love the arguement saying EJ is not good enough  But same people say TT needs more time to develop Tyrod and EJ both suck.  I've been back a few days and I already find you more grating than 99% of the folks on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 EJ throwing for 5 TDs and 400 yards is slightly less likely than me hooking up with Jennifer Lawrence on Tindr But good luck with that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Tyrod and EJ both suck. Â I've been back a few days and I already find you more grating than 99% of the folks on this board. They both are not good enough in my opinion and i dont need to see more time from either to make that opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 EJ just needs more time.Like TT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Kind of did already:http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/191091-with-ej-getting-the-nod-this-week/?do=findComment&comment=4186323 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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