Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 7 hours ago, ALF said: His first mission was to smuggle war crimes evidence. Now it's to convince Congress to act The horrifying pictures -- almost 55,000 of them, taken by him and others -- showed scenes that were compared to the depravity of the Nazis. Caesar code name photos showing alleged torture of prisoners by Assad regime But a world that said "Never Again" after the Holocaust appeared to shrug. "I honestly thought that if I could have the courage to go for the years that I did ... endangering my life every single day, that once I came out and showed the world what I had, that the entire conscience of the world would move," he says. But it didn't. https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/08/politics/syria-defector-caesar-in-washington/index.html These pictures are proof of crimes against humanity , warning very graphic https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2019/10/08/syrian-defector-begs-congress-for-action-bolduan-pkg-ath-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/around-the-world/ Why is it OUR problem? It's not OUR problem. It's THEIR problem. Why should we expend blood and treasure for those people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 36 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Has the next genocide begun??? https://www.foxnews.com/world/turkey-syria-kurdish-troops-military-assault Why, do you want to know when to laugh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 24 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Why is it OUR problem? It's not OUR problem. It's THEIR problem. Why should we expend blood and treasure for those people? At the very least bring the evidence to the UN Security Council for a vote. When Russia vetoes any action then they are complicit to be shamed and shunned by the world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Just now, ALF said: At the very least bring the evidence to the UN Security Council for a vote. When Russia vetoes any action then they are complicit to be shamed and shunned by the world. lol the UN Get us OUT of the UN. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 17 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: lol the UN Get us OUT of the UN. No, that would go against the irrepressible pull of a world under one republic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Republicans don't always view things the way some handler wants them to. Opinions are varied and discussion can be passionate. Democrats, on the other hand are like lemmings and will follow their leaders anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 I remember when some of the loudest protesters in this thread were once against our involvement in endless wars and regime change... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: I remember when some of the loudest protesters in this thread were once against our involvement in endless wars and regime change... We shouldn't abandon our allies to death and slaughter. That's just pure evil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 We had 50 soldiers there. Are 50 enough to hold off the Turks? Nope. You're being spun up about this by the same people you've protested against for most of your time in PPP. You're just too far gone to realize you're being played. Hard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Talk like that is what got him into trouble with the USIC/MiC in the first place. It's why he's been a target from day 0. This is their gravy train. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 9 hours ago, ALF said: His first mission was to smuggle war crimes evidence. Now it's to convince Congress to act The horrifying pictures -- almost 55,000 of them, taken by him and others -- showed scenes that were compared to the depravity of the Nazis. Caesar code name photos showing alleged torture of prisoners by Assad regime But a world that said "Never Again" after the Holocaust appeared to shrug. We talking about Rwanda again? "Never again" is the biggest lie in international politics. 17 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: I remember when some of the loudest protesters in this thread were once against our involvement in endless wars and regime change... I remember when abandoning the Kurds to Assad and the Russians was sound, enlightened foreign policy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 53 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: We had 50 soldiers there. Are 50 enough to hold off the Turks? Nope. You're being spun up about this by the same people you've protested against for most of your time in PPP. You're just too far gone to realize you're being played. Hard. If Turkey killed those 50 soldiers it's declaring war on the US. 23,400 US troops in S.Korea , can they stop N.Korea , of course not , same result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Just now, ALF said: If Turkey killed those 50 soldiers it's declaring war on the US. 23,400 US troops in S.Korea , can they stop N.Korea , of course not , same result. So, you prefer to leave 50 hostages there who could be injured or killed (and thus pull us into a major shooting war with multiple nations)? That's a big change from where you were under W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 35 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: So, you prefer to leave 50 hostages there who could be injured or killed (and thus pull us into a major shooting war with multiple nations)? That's a big change from where you were under W. Turkey did not dare kill those 50 and start a war with the US Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, ALF said: Turkey did not dare kill those 50 and start a war with the US It wouldn't have to be Turkey to do it. Anyone could do it (like the MiC who lied about WMD in Iraq), and blame others, and spark a war. Which is the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: It wouldn't have to be Turkey to do it. Anyone could do it (like the MiC who lied about WMD in Iraq), and blame others, and spark a war. Which is the point. Well the point now is do we let the Kurds get slaughtered ? The Kurds lost 11,000 fighters defeating ISIS with a lot of US help. They are guarding 12,000 ISIS prisoners so far. Edited October 9, 2019 by ALF 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: We had 50 soldiers there. Are 50 enough to hold off the Turks? Nope. You're being spun up about this by the same people you've protested against for most of your time in PPP. You're just too far gone to realize you're being played. Hard. Just popping in to point out that this is a very dumb thing to say, and shows your lack of understanding on the subject. 1 US soldier is enough to hold off the turks....they aren't going to do ***** if US has a presence there. and LOL at you think anyone who disagrees with you was spun by the media. Great way to go through life buddy 19 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: It wouldn't have to be Turkey to do it. Anyone could do it (like the MiC who lied about WMD in Iraq), and blame others, and spark a war. Which is the point. No your point was that that 50 soldiers wouldn't hold off the "turks." That point was wrong. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Just now, Crayola64 said: Just popping in to point out that this is a very dumb thing to say, and shows your lack of understanding on the subject. 1 US soldier is enough to hold off the turks....they aren't going to do ***** if US has a presence there. If US soldiers were that influential, international politics would be a vastly different scene than it is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 37 minutes ago, ALF said: Well the point now is do we let the Kurds get slaughtered ? The Kurds lost 11,000 fighters defeating ISIS with a lot of US help. They are guarding 12,000 ISIS prisoners so far. 50 troops was not preventing this from happening. There are other ways and strategies which can protect the Kurds without risking US lives or risking a new flare up to prolong our involvement in a THIRD war in the ME in just the past decade. This includes continuing the partnership with the GCC which has been built up over the past three years in theater, and has borne fruit. Turkey, like it or not, is a NATO partner. Do you think it's wise to have us fighting an ally to defend (ultimately) Assad/Syria/Russia? I don't. Do you think it's worth keeping 50 (or so) fighters in the region who can be harmed/exploited/used to draw us into more unending sectarian conflict? The Kurds are friends and allies, no one is disputing this. But there are ways to protect them without leaving hostages for the MiC (global MiC) to use as pawns to assure their endless regime change wars continue unabated. 25 minutes ago, DC Tom said: If US soldiers were that influential, international politics would be a vastly different scene than it is. Exactly. Silly people make silly points when they rush into subjects where they're woefully underinformed. (Not talking about Alf whom I like a great deal) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 From about an hour ago: https://publicpool.kinja.com/subject-wh-pool-3-1838913336 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 3 hours ago, DC Tom said: We talking about Rwanda again? Or Bosnia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 The slaughter commences! Turkey launches offensive against U.S.-allied Kurdish forces in Syria The long-expected offensive initially appeared to be a limited operation targeting Syrian Kurdish fighters who have played a central role in the battle against the Islamic State. By Kareem Fahim, Sarah Dadouch and Asser Khattab 2 hours ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Seconded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: From about an hour ago: https://publicpool.kinja.com/subject-wh-pool-3-1838913336 Soooooooooo blame Turkey when ***** hits the fan Edited October 9, 2019 by Gary Busey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Blame Turkey -- for waging war. That's how adults work, Gary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 How will adults hold them to this commitment? by Tweeting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 There are plenty of options on the table that don't include keeping hostages in combat zones. Your unthinking bias is showing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 (edited) The Trump regime says they are holding Turkey to their commitment to protect civilians. What happens when civilians inevitably die? Trump bends the knee and kisses Erdogon's ass some more? Edited October 9, 2019 by Gary Busey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: The Trump regime says they are holding Turkey to their commitment to protect civilians. What happens when civilians inevitably die? Trump bends the knee and kisses Erdogon's ass some more? We don’t want anything happening to Trump Tower Istanbul! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 17 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: The Trump regime says they are holding Turkey to their commitment to protect civilians. What happens when civilians inevitably die? Trump bends the knee and kisses Erdogon's ass some more? Turkey is in NATO. Do we hate NATO this week after years of screaming Trump making anti-NATO statements was a threat to global stability? Man, it must be tough to keep your positions straight when you constantly allow yourself to be misled by proven liars and manipulators. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Why, it's almost as if the Kurds are a capable fighting force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: Why, it's almost as if the Kurds are a capable fighting force. Hope they murder boatloads of Turks. I'm tired of those people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Gary Busey said: How will adults hold them to this commitment? by Tweeting? angry whiny tweets!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 24 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Steve Kerr should stay in his little lane. That is, not having to coach because his players are better than he ever was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 28 minutes ago, Crayola64 said: angry whiny tweets!!! I thought you could only handle a couple days of this place. A shame because we can only handle a couple days of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Gary Busey said: How will adults hold them to this commitment? by Tweeting? Bring Back Our Kurds? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: Turkey is in NATO. Do we hate NATO this week after years of screaming Trump making anti-NATO statements was a threat to global stability? Man, it must be tough to keep your positions straight when you constantly allow yourself to be misled by proven liars and manipulators. nutjob says what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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