ganesh Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 (edited) Should Gillislee spell McCoy more often? Is he a hidden gem capable of being a much cheaper full-time starter should the team move on from McCoy after this year? Yes. He is much better than Reggie Bush....Bush should be cut. Even CJ would be better Edited September 21, 2016 by ganesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Yes. He is much better than Reggie Bush....Bush should be cut. Even CJ would be better With Brandon Tate around to handle return duties, I see RB's role diminishing. I'd favor activating Jonathan Williams over Reggie. WRT Spiller.....Come on man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 he's Bryce with less fumbles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D521646 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Great post, been thinking about this and feel Gilislee is a hidden gem. I don't even think it's too much of a stretch to think he could be a better fit than Shady for our style of offense. The guy hits the hole hard and runs north/south. Shady will take a 3-4 yard loss instead of taking the 2-3 yard gain, and our offense isn't built for 2nd/3rd and long. The negative runs are drive killers. Not sure how Shady's contract is structured, but I do know the money we are paying him could be better spent elsewhere. Shady is gone next year, and maybe even this year depending on how we shape out. Frankly, I'm totally ok with this, he isn't living up to the contract, and most teams in the NFL are RB by committee now anyway. I say if things don't improve dramatically Sunday, we try and move him now. Tim- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I was actually wondering if Gillislee / McCoy is our new Freddy / Marshawn. At the time, Marshawn was the high profile back. A first round draft pick. But at every chance, Freddy just seemed to do more. I'm not saying Gillislee is as good as Fred Jackson, but I see a similar situation where the back up does more with opportunities than the featured back. Gillislee moves forward. McCoy moves laterally until he finds a hole or turns up when he reaches the sideline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 I was actually wondering if Gillislee / McCoy is our new Freddy / Marshawn. At the time, Marshawn was the high profile back. A first round draft pick. But at every chance, Freddy just seemed to do more. I'm not saying Gillislee is as good as Fred Jackson, but I see a similar situation where the back up does more with opportunities than the featured back. Gillislee moves forward. McCoy moves laterally until he finds a hole or turns up when he reaches the sideline. I see the similarities as well. Fred was criminally underused in his early years here and this is the problem you create when you pay one running back above the average salary. Now there's too much pressure to use McCoy, and we aren't using the fresh legs that are ready to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I was actually wondering if Gillislee / McCoy is our new Freddy / Marshawn. At the time, Marshawn was the high profile back. A first round draft pick. But at every chance, Freddy just seemed to do more. I'm not saying Gillislee is as good as Fred Jackson, but I see a similar situation where the back up does more with opportunities than the featured back. Gillislee moves forward. McCoy moves laterally until he finds a hole or turns up when he reaches the sideline. the only time hes broken ten carries in a game gillislee ran for 4 yards total on carries 11 through 24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 With Brandon Tate around to handle return duties, I see RB's role diminishing. I'd favor activating Jonathan Williams over Reggie. WRT Spiller.....Come on man! Seriously I was looking forward to J Williams playing but I think hes hurt right? We need a power back to spell Shady. They need to use Gillislee and J Will more then Bush. Bush is a lesser version of Shady so whats the point of using him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I see the similarities as well. Fred was criminally underused in his early years here and this is the problem you create when you pay one running back above the average salary. Now there's too much pressure to use McCoy, and we aren't using the fresh legs that are ready to go. at 15 carries per game, mccoy is on pace for all of 240 carries this year. his legs are as fresh as they will ever be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 He looked great last year, until late in the season when he was pressed into duty as the featured back. His 24 carry 28 yard performance week 17 is what you will get if you think of him as a starter. A good change up relief back, not an every down back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 the only time hes broken ten carries in a game gillislee ran for 4 yards total on carries 11 through 24. That game was brutal but I dont think it was all Gillislee's fault He looked great last year, until late in the season when he was pressed into duty as the featured back. His 24 carry 28 yard performance week 17 is what you will get if you think of him as a starter. A good change up relief back, not an every down back. Agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 (edited) That game was brutal but I dont think it was all Gillislee's fault not all. honestly, ive avoided throwing that stat out until we got to the argument of "every time hes had a chance hes done more than the starters" because i think hes better than the line indicates. but i also will continue to echo that being a successful role player doesnt mean you can suddenly be a successful feature back. sometimes posters get too carried away in the "if you play them more they will be even better" or "with an offseason hes bound to make big jumps" and so on.... instead of realizing that the guy might simply be a good depth back that will potentially make some plays for you. Edited September 21, 2016 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 not all. honestly, ive avoided throwing that stat out until we got to the argument of "every time hes had a chance hes done more than the starters" because i think hes better than the line indicates. but i also will continue to echo that being a successful role player doesnt mean you can suddenly be a successful feature back. sometimes posters get too carried away in the "if you play them more they will be even better" or "with an offseason hes bound to make big jumps" and so on.... instead of realizing that the guy might simply be a good depth back that will potentially make some plays for you. Yep. I said the same about Karlos Williams last year when McCoy went down. Hes a great change of pace back but not a feature RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Jonathan Williams Get that bruiser on the game day roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Jonathan Williams Get that bruiser on the game day roster I know right? We were told Karlos was cut because of all the better talent in the pool... Well let's see it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Gillislee has zero financial security........he NEEDS to make plays on the league's terms. McCoy has far too much financial security for the Bills good.......he WANTS to make plays on his terms. Gillislee is bigger and more physical but it really comes down to need-to. McCoy knows he should be taking those inside cutbacks........it's just a combination of split-second business decisions and a false sense of explosiveness gained by occasional bounces that yield 10-12 yard runs on the sideline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 (edited) Based on a very small sample size Dizzy >>>>>>> Bush FTFY. Edited September 24, 2016 by Freddie's Dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Seriously I was looking forward to J Williams playing but I think hes hurt right? We need a power back to spell Shady. They need to use Gillislee and J Will more then Bush. Bush is a lesser version of Shady so whats the point of using him? I don't see him on the injury report. He was supposed to be healthy week 1 for the Ravens, healthy scratch. http://www.buffalobills.com/team/injury-report.html Double checking, nope, not there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 (edited) I don't see him on the injury report. He was supposed to be healthy week 1 for the Ravens, healthy scratch. http://www.buffalobills.com/team/injury-report.html Double checking, nope, not there. WOW. Am I the only one saying WTF? We need J Will in there, at this point we need him to start developing, we save nothing by keepin Bush active over Williams. In our current scheme, with our current roster and roster holes would you all agree when I say J Will > Bushface? EDIT: Im Trying to embed this youtube video of J Will highlights, what am I doing wrong? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSQBZWUznSI <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/NSQBZWUznSI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/NSQBZWUznSI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/NSQBZWUznSI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/NSQBZWUznSI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/NSQBZWUznSI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/NSQBZWUznSI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/NSQBZWUznSI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/NSQBZWUznSI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/NSQBZWUznSI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/NSQBZWUznSI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/NSQBZWUznSI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/NSQBZWUznSI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Edited September 24, 2016 by Marty McFly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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