TakeYouToTasker Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 (edited) Matt Miller QB Rankings as of 3 days ago Kizer Watson Kaaya Didnt have Kelly in the top 50 players If Chad Kelly's last name was "Smith", he wouldn't be on anyone here's radar other that Buffalo Barbarian. Climbs the pocket with his eyes downfield under major duress twice in a row. Excellent poise. Zero panic. Head on a swivel reading the field, and protecting the ball. Edited September 18, 2016 by TakeYouToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Notre Dame has a good QB, since when? When was North Dakota States last good QB before Wentz? I could go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 If Chad Kelly's last name was "Smith", he wouldn't be on anyone here's radar other that Buffalo Barbarian.Climbs the pocket with his eyes downfield. If it was "Williams" he'd be a priority target for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 If it was "Williams" he'd be a priority target for us.LOL fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 This kid really knows how to feel the rush. And there's an anticipation throw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Bills have a scout at Oklahoma - Ohio State. Very few draft eligible players on Osu. Could be looking at Perine at OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 If Chad Kelly's last name was "Smith", he wouldn't be on anyone here's radar other that Buffalo Barbarian. Climbs the pocket with his eyes downfield under major duress twice in a row. Excellent poise. Zero panic. Head on a swivel reading the field, and protecting the ball. just keep rooting for those spread QBs, I'm sure Kizer is making a ton of audibles and pre snap reads in the spread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Calls an audible with 5 seconds on the play clock because he doesn't like what he sees on 3rd and 6. Gets the play off. Nearly gets the first. just keep rooting for those spread QBs, I'm sure Kizer is making a ton of audibles and pre snap reads in the spread Says the dope who has the single worst record of QB evaluation I've ever seen, likely has never broken down college game film at an "it matters" level, and isn't watching the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 just keep rooting for those spread QBs, I'm sure Kizer is making a ton of audibles and pre snap reads in the spread So you mean just about every College QB. Man heck NFL has a ton of spread concepts just not in Buffalo with its 1970s offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 So you mean just about every College QB. Man heck NFL has a ton of spread concepts just not in Buffalo with its 1970s offenseHe has no idea what he's talking about. Just ridicule him like he deserves, and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 That was a beautiful ball and likely should have been caught Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 So you mean just about every College QB. Man heck NFL has a ton of spread concepts just not in Buffalo with its 1970s offense the college spread is a one read and throw offense THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN IN THE NFL. This why Spread QBs struggle way more than Kids who come out of pro style system, which is why Wentz is already ahead of the game. Just because one goes 4 or 5 wide in the NFL does not mean it is the COLLEGE SPREAD, where they have no clue how to read a defense, make audibles and progressions. He has no idea what he's talking about. Just ridicule him like he deserves, and move on. guess you are not the smartest man in the room Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 the college spread is a one read and throw offense THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN IN THE NFL. This why Spread QBs struggle way more than Kids who come out of pro style system, which is why Wentz is already ahead of the game. Just because one goes 4 or 5 wide in the NFL does not mean it is the COLLEGE SPREAD, where they have no clue how to read a defense, make audibles and progressions. guess you are not the smartest man in the room So in other words you really think Brian Kellys offense is a 1 read and throe Spread. Rank your college QBs can wait to see that pearl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 (edited) So in other words you really think Brian Kellys offense is a 1 read and throe Spread. Rank your college QBs can wait to see that pearl because you know me, whatever proby Calls an audible with 5 seconds on the play clock because he doesn't like what he sees on 3rd and 6. Gets the play off. Nearly gets the first. Says the dope who has the single worst record of QB evaluation I've ever seen, likely has never broken down college game film at an "it matters" level, and isn't watching the game. Yeah, guess which QBs where misses, ALL the spread QBs. Luck, Bortles, and Wentz are just fine. Tannehill who was spread and he has been ok maybe now after 5 yrs he will excel. Edited September 18, 2016 by Buffalo Barbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 because you know me, whatever proby Yeah, guess which QBs where misses, ALL the spread QBs. Luck, Bortles, and Wentz are just fine. Tannehill who was spread and he has been ok maybe now after 5 yrs he will excel. Cam? Mariota? Carr? Rodgers? For each non spread success i can find one. Yeah dog me because i am new here. Big deal here cause i was banned from BBMB for calling out coaching because you know me, whatever proby Yeah, guess which QBs where misses, ALL the spread QBs. Luck, Bortles, and Wentz are just fine. Tannehill who was spread and he has been ok maybe now after 5 yrs he will excel. Ooo also you know Bortles was a spread QB too right, but i bet you knew that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Cam? Mariota? Carr? Rodgers? For each non spread success i can find one. Yeah dog me because i am new here. Big deal here cause i was banned from BBMB for calling out coaching BBMB is the land of cheerleaders, unicorns and rainbows. Welcome to a place where you can find much better discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Cam? Mariota? Carr? Rodgers? For each non spread success i can find one. Yeah dog me because i am new here. Big deal here cause i was banned from BBMB for calling out coaching BBMB is the land of cheerleaders, unicorns and rainbows. Welcome to a place where you can find much better discussion. Appreciate it. Worse series accuracy wise I have seen from him all year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Cam? Mariota? Carr? Rodgers? For each non spread success i can find one. Yeah dog me because i am new here. Big deal here cause i was banned from BBMB for calling out coaching Ooo also you know Bortles was a spread QB too right, but i bet you knew that. Bortles was not spread . took Cam 5 yrs, Rogers sat for 3 yrs, Mariota is not established yet, Only saw Carr once so didn't have opiniom of him. look I'm not saying never draft one just that it is normally going to take yrs if ever for them to make it. Look at TT six yrs in the League and the guy still can't read defense. We don't need athletes with big arms we need players who can learn the NFL game, can Kizer do it who knows but I would rather take my chances on a guy who has been trained in the pro game like Wentz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Watching the NCAA highlights ... it's looking to me like 2017 may be the year to Suck for Lamar (Jackson)/Louisville. Just completely destroyed #2 FSU. Incredible talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Bortles was not spread . took Cam 5 yrs, Rogers sat for 3 yrs, Mariota is not established yet, Only saw Carr once so didn't have opiniom of him. look I'm not saying never draft one just that it is normally going to take yrs if ever for them to make it. Look at TT six yrs in the League and the guy still can't read defense. We don't need athletes with big arms we need players who can learn the NFL game, can Kizer do it who knows but I would rather take my chances on a guy who has been trained in the pro game like Wentz. Bortles was a spread. He ran Spread and Read option at his High School Oviedo High just down the road from where i live watched every one of his home HS games. Went to UCF and there the ran Read Option spread, but also ran some under center it was called everything under the kitchen sink offense. Again season ticket holder at UCF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 I want Lamar Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Bortles was not spread . took Cam 5 yrs, Rogers sat for 3 yrs, Mariota is not established yet, Only saw Carr once so didn't have opiniom of him. look I'm not saying never draft one just that it is normally going to take yrs if ever for them to make it. Look at TT six yrs in the League and the guy still can't read defense. We don't need athletes with big arms we need players who can learn the NFL game, can Kizer do it who knows but I would rather take my chances on a guy who has been trained in the pro game like Wentz. So you are comparing a 6th round pick in TT to Wentz. Kizer makes reads, has good mechanics, accurate, changes play because of his defensive recognition. So he does everything you are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 I want Lamar Jackson A tall Michael Vick. Without the fighting bulldogs. I would lose every game on purpose next year if I was sure he's coming out in the 2018 draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 And for the record i was over on BBMB all last year trying to calm people down about Tyrod. No one wanted to listen. Looks like i was right though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 I'd take Lamar Jackson over Kizer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 I'd take Lamar Jackson over Kizer. Have not seen Lamar Jackson so I wont comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Bortles was a spread. He ran Spread and Read option at his High School Oviedo High just down the road from where i live watched every one of his home HS games. Went to UCF and there the ran Read Option spread, but also ran some under center it was called everything under the kitchen sink offense. Again season ticket holder at UCF. UCF did not when Borltes was there, their coach George O'Leary was an old school NFL guy who ran a pro-system. I watched Bortles his junior and senior yr and they were not spread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 I want Lamar Jackson I think a few cheer leaders were thinking that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 UCF did not when Borltes was there, their coach George O'Leary was an old school NFL guy who ran a pro-system. I watched Bortles his junior and senior yr and they were not spread. Did you watch UCF Once. Or just going by what you think. I can tell you exactly they ran spread and read option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 (edited) Did you watch UCF Once. Or just going by what you think. I can tell you exactly they ran spread and read option. keep telling yourself that, just because you have spread elements doesn't make you spread. I would run the option with him too because the guy is a beast Edited September 18, 2016 by Buffalo Barbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 I want Lamar Jackson Here is what Matt Miller said about him this week. Louisvilles Lamar Jackson looks like a legit Heisman candidate as a true sophomore, but do NFL teams see the dual-threat quarterback as a pro quarterback? I asked three NFL scouts who handle the Louisville area what Jackson looks like to them. All three responded that theyre listing him as a quarterback but noted that hes not draft-eligible until 2018. Jacksons body is more of a wide receiver build, but his explosive and exciting playmaking skills will turn heads at the quarterback position. My take: Jackson has to become more accurate and add weight to be considered an elite quarterback prospect. keep telling yourself that Learn something When Hodges stepped in as a fifth-year transfer, Taaffe ran a two-back system. It is what he calls "home base" for UCF. Under Godfrey, the Knights were a pistol, read-option team. By Bortles' junior year, UCF was a spread, pass-heavy offense. http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2014-08-16/sports/os-ucf-charlie-taaffe-0817-20140816_1_ucf-coach-george-o-leary-jeff-godfrey-rob-calabrese keep telling yourself that, just because you have spread elements doesn't make you spread. I would run the option with him too because the guy is a beast Keep back peddling this is too easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Kizer is garbage. Lamar Jackson is fun to watch, but I'm not sure he would make a good NFL QB. The Bills will have their highest draft pick in years and all for what? Not one franchise type QB in next years draft. How typical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Kizer is garbage. Lamar Jackson is fun to watch, but I'm not sure he would make a good NFL QB. The Bills will have their highest draft pick in years and all for what? Not one franchise type QB in next years draft. How typical. There is easily 3 top end QBs right now. Kizer Watson Kaaya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 This kid is the real deal. Perfect placement all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 (edited) Yeah, guess which QBs where misses, ALL the spread QBs. Luck, Bortles, and Wentz are just fine. Tannehill who was spread and he has been ok maybe now after 5 yrs he will excel.You're very "loud". Please don't take what I'm about to say as an insult. You're a passionate football fan, and I can appreciate that. What you should do is go watch some coaches film with people who know how to read game film. You should go to the local high school, and tell them that you're willing to work for free, that you'd like to be an assistant positional coach, and that you'd like to learn how to coach and break down film; and would they possibly be willing to teach you. And if they take you up on it, shut up and listen. Be a !@#$ing sponge. Back to the game: Huh... Knows how to use angle and leverage to take on tacklers in a "must" situation. Hadn't seen him (Kizer) in a situation like that before. Edited September 18, 2016 by TakeYouToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 He is playing very well. He cant really help the fact the defense just realized they are in a football game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerland Bills Fan Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 I just got back from Buffalo Wild Wings where I was watching him. It was only a small sample, but he didn't look real impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 I just got back from Buffalo Wild Wings where I was watching him. It was only a small sample, but he didn't look real impressive. What didnt you like in what you watched? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Kizer is not a franchise QB. Watch ND vs Michigan St today and you will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Kizer is not a franchise QB. Watch ND vs Michigan St today and you will see. Have been watching it. So explain the issues seeing your the one saying he is not a Franchise QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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