DrDawkinstein Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 (edited) But wait a minute, I thought it was ROMAN'S fault that the ball didn't make it to Sammy.... YOU are the only one pushing this narrative that some posters are completely excusing Tyrod, and pinning it 100% on Roman. When I haven't seen anyone say that, not even BillfromNYC put it 100% on Roman. There's plenty of blame to go around between the two, and everyone realizes that. We can point out Roman's faults without excusing Taylor. Edited September 13, 2016 by DrDareustein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Sure are lots of excuses flying around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 So Sammy should get 15 targets out of 22 pass attempts? Well, maybe if they did, theyd make more 1st downs and therefore have more pass attempts/offensive plays! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP's Voice Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 So Sammy should get 15 targets out of 22 pass attempts? No he should get all 22. Throw it to him every single play. If he has four defenders around him you still throw him the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Sure are lots of excuses flying around Like what and for who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Keep in mind that Sammy has been kept under wraps all off season, and neither he nor Tyrod saw much preseason action together. To me, this is the biggest problem so far in that these two just have not played together much and should have. Rex treated Tyrod as a six-year player when in fact he is only in his second year of starting and needed all the preseason practice time he could get with that offense. Instead, EJ got all the work in preseason and it should have been Tyrod out there with the starters. EJ survived it. Then we have the problems with the Bills receiver corps and offensive line lacking quality talent past the first three with both units. Lastly, Watkins should have more than just six targets in an entire game even if it is a run first team. Charles Clay only saw 3 targets for 2 receptions for 40 yards too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 To me, this is the biggest problem so far in that these two just have not played together much and should have. Rex treated Tyrod as a six-year player when in fact he is only in his second year of starting and needed all the preseason practice time he could get with that offense. Instead, EJ got all the work in preseason and it should have been Tyrod out there with the starters. EJ survived it. Then we have the problems with the Bills receiver corps and offensive line lacking quality talent past the first three with both units. Lastly, Watkins should have more than just six targets in an entire game even if it is a run first team. Charles Clay only saw 3 targets for 2 receptions for 40 yards too. Good points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Sure are lots of excuses flying around a lot looked bad. either you simply think they will be a team that scores in the single digits week in and week out, or you think there are explanations for why they went wrong. i havent seen much in the way of excuses but a variety of explanations for why we will hopefully be better most weeks and who owns responsibility for why we were bad last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Sure are lots of excuses flying around I just meant that people want to make explanations for why the Bills were terrible on offense. I don't want excuses or explanations. I want to see some of what Roethlisberger was throwing round last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRQ_BillsFan Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 With the wide receivers we have on this team Sammy should be TT's 2nd read at a minimum each time he throws the ball. Doesn't have to throw it, but at least look for him. He should know where Sammy is going every play, how hard can it be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 In all seriousness, on every pass play, Tyrod should know exactly where Sammy is, what his route is, and be thinking prior to the snap "Throw it to Sammy." If things unfold such that it is impossible, like Sammy falls down, do something else. If there is a 50/50 shot at success or better, throw it to Sammy. On a lot of plays, Tyrod looks like he is unaware that Sammy is on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 (edited) Is it possible he sees the bracket coverage on Watkins and ignores him? That seems the most likely explanation to me and it would explain why on some of these clips they show him never even looking in the direction of Watkins. Edited September 13, 2016 by Commonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro_tull Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Funny people wanted GR as HC here. It is GRs issue (not the radio station) and yes we wanted him here and still do. Deep throws have their place but old school aerial shootouts are not the way to play the game any longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 It is GRs issue (not the radio station) and yes we wanted him here and still do. Deep throws have their place but old school aerial shootouts are not the way to play the game any longer. What the WHAT?!?!? :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 I just meant that people want to make explanations for why the Bills were terrible on offense. I don't want excuses or explanations. I want to see some of what Roethlisberger was throwing round last night. then i would suggest watching the games, and not coming to discussion boards, if you want to watch games instead of hearing discussion about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulles Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 So Sammy should get 15 targets out of 22 pass attempts? If we are only throwing 22 times, Sammy should be targeted 22 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 then i would suggest watching the games, and not coming to discussion boards, if you want to watch games instead of hearing discussion about them. The snarky accuracy of this comment had me chuckling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 (edited) TT's issue or GR's?Starting to think it's TT, now that doesn't mean the OC shouldn't be finding a way to fix it, but we saw the plot of all his attempts last season and it was clear the intermediate to deep middle was not used... At all Then we saw the Ravens leave that area of the field barren and take away deep sideline balls with deeeep safeties and squat on everything up close. The end result was 111 passing yards. I understand that - my point is I don't care if he isn't - throw him the ball. Tyrod is capable of making the throws. I not only agree, but am Adding its even worse given the fact he is usually high school open out there..If we are only throwing 22 times, Sammy should be targeted 22 times. Or at least 20 Edited September 13, 2016 by over 20 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 then i would suggest watching the games, and not coming to discussion boards, if you want to watch games instead of hearing discussion about them. That's a post I can get behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted September 13, 2016 Author Share Posted September 13, 2016 So Sammy should get 15 targets out of 22 pass attempts? This is part of a MUCH bigger problem. This is a passing league! In NO game (unless it is just a completely odd game that virtually never happens) should we only be throwing the ball 22 times. To win in this league in 2016, you have to be able to throw the ball, and do it a lot. So, if you're throwing it 33+ times a game like you should, there is no reason he couldn't get 12-15 looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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