Maury Ballstein Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 (edited) I would imagine that the vast majority of non-whites in this country, and a great number of whites, think that "by and large, the country is kinda racist." Nope. I think racism is at an all time low and is trending lower, Kap is a fool. Edited August 28, 2016 by Ryan L Billz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 I would imagine that the vast majority of non-whites in this country, and a great number of whites, think that "by and large, the country is kinda racist." Try to have a normal conversation and not be an ass. I am. You said "he has none." But we've already established that religious tat's are their own form of "cred" for rappers and criminals. So I'm confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 I would imagine that the vast majority of non-whites in this country, and a great number of whites, think that "by and large, the country is kinda racist." Try to have a normal conversation and not be an ass. I would imagine that the vast majority of non-whites in this country, and a great number of whites, think that "by and large, the country is kinda racist." Try to have a normal conversation and not be an ass. IF that would be the case, then by and large, they'd be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 I am. You said "he has none." But we've already established that religious tat's are their own form of "cred" for rappers and criminals. So I'm confused. No, you knew exactly what I was saying, that he has no non-religious tats, and were intentionally being an ass by acting confused and saying "he has no tats?" which is your constant MO. IF that would be the case, then by and large, they'd be wrong. There is really no place in the world where people of different races or even religions live, by and large, in harmony side by side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 28, 2016 Author Share Posted August 28, 2016 Kap Explains Protest The 49ers quarterback refused to stand for the national anthem Friday, saying, "I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color." Kaepernick said that he is aware of what he is doing and that he knows it will not sit well with a lot of people, including the 49ers. He said that he did not inform the club or anyone affiliated with the team of his intentions to protest the national anthem. "This is not something that I am going to run by anybody," he said. "I am not looking for approval. I have to stand up for people that are oppressed. ... If they take football away, my endorsements from me, I know that I stood up for what is right." Kaepernick said that he has thought about going public with his feelings for a while but that "I felt that I needed to understand the situation better." He said that he has discussed his feelings with his family and, after months of witnessing some of the civil unrest in the U.S., decided to be more active and involved in rights for black people. Kaepernick, who is biracial, was adopted and raised by white parents and siblings. Kaepernick's Twitter feed is filled with civil rights messages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 (edited) No, you knew exactly what I was saying, that he has no non-religious tats, and were intentionally being an ass by acting confused and saying "he has no tats?" which is your constant MO. There is really no place in the world where people of different races or even religions live, by and large, in harmony side by side. Of course not, but that's not how you measure things. Words such as great or in this case harmony are subjective terms. There truly is no right or wrong answer when attempting to gauge the accuracy of the statement when you bring these words into the equation. That leaves relativity. You measure against everyone else and when it comes to racial tolerance, the U.S is at or near the tops. People are entitled to their emotions and feelings. And I'm entitled to bring factual data to attempt to disprove those emotions. Edited August 28, 2016 by Magox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Of course not, but that's not how you measure things. Words such as great or in this case harmony are subjective terms. There truly is no right or wrong answer when attempting to gauge the accuracy of the statement when you bring these words into the equation. That leaves relativity. You measure against everyone else and when it comes to racial tolerance, the U.S is at or near the tops. People are entitled to their emotions and feelings. And I'm entitled to bring factual data to attempt to disprove those emotions. You bring up good points, and I believe America and Americans to be amongst the most tolerant and generous people, too. But that doesn't mean they are not racist, as well. After reading that article, I'm not sure it gauges the kind of racism that is widespread across the country at all. All it did is ask a bunch of people who would you not want to live in your neighborhood. Americans, regardless of their level of racism, are not going to answer "Black people!!!" to that question no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's in My Blood Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Meanwhile, I'm drinking a good Pinot and eating stuffed mushrooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 No, you knew exactly what I was saying, that he has no non-religious tats, and were intentionally being an ass by acting confused and saying "he has no tats?" which is your constant MO. There is really no place in the world where people of different races or even religions live, by and large, in harmony side by side. That's your opinion. I really wasn't. Either way, he does have religious tat's, which have been historically associated with rappers and criminals, and his lack of tear drops or gang signs doesn't mean that those tat's aren't for "cred," as you previously said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 (edited) I would imagine that the vast majority of non-whites in this country, and a great number of whites, think that "by and large, the country is kinda racist." Through being told that this country is racist. Even though it isn't. Racism is the default answer during altercations between two people. It shouldn't be. If a white person gets into a fight with a black person, people wonder if there were racial motivations. If a white person gets into a fight with a white person people wonder who did what to piss the other one off. Edited August 28, 2016 by What a Tuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 He's a dumb jock and is likely clueless on most matters. However, if you're going to call out your country with such serious accusations, back it up. Show us the facts Colin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Kap Explains Protest Kaepernick said that he is aware of what he is doing and that he knows it will not sit well with a lot of people, including the 49ers. He said that he did not inform the club or anyone affiliated with the team of his intentions to protest the national anthem. "This is not something that I am going to run by anybody," he said. "I am not looking for approval. I have to stand up for people that are oppressed. ... If they take football away, my endorsements from me, I know that I stood up for what is right." Kaepernick said that he has thought about going public with his feelings for a while but that "I felt that I needed to understand the situation better." He said that he has discussed his feelings with his family and, after months of witnessing some of the civil unrest in the U.S., decided to be more active and involved in rights for black people. Kaepernick, who is biracial, was adopted and raised by white parents and siblings. Kaepernick's Twitter feed is filled with civil rights messages. Kaep is gonna lose all those lucrative back-up to Blaine Gabbert endorsements. And he'll lose the QB competition because "they" don't like him taking a seat for freedom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 If a white person gets into a fight with a black person, people wonder if there were racial motivations. If a white person gets into a fight with a white person people wonder who did what to piss the other one off. Ummm... which is why we are racist. What do you think when a white guy enters your elevator: Guy. What do you think when a black guy enters your elevator: Black guy. He's a dumb jock and is likely clueless on most matters. You're a dumb poster. He happens to be a very smart guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Maybe it's because one of the two major political parties in this country has nominated a man for president whose appeal to voters is so unabashedly racist that, according to multiple polls, he has attracted the support of between 0 and 1 percent of African American voters. Or maybe it's because that same party has dedicated a large part of its resources to enacting state laws whose purpose is to (illegally) make it more difficult for African-Americans and other minorities to exercise their constitutional right to vote. Or maybe it's because that same party has conducted an eight year campaign of hatred, ridicule and fear-mongering against our first African American president, while at the same time blaming him for the deterioration of race relations. Oh please. What's being done to make it more difficult for minorities to vote? So if I, a white person point out the epic failure that is the Obama presidency (which is quite easy to do) it's based on hatred due to his race? Most of the population is really sick and tired of the faux racism charges, so much so that when real racism occurs many no longer pay attention. Not enough. BLM wants reparations. For those that haven't visited the BLM website, take a look at their stated causes. Socialist segregationists. A total failure to acknowledge the issues that limit people's social and economic mobility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 There is really no place in the world where people of different races or even religions live, by and large, in harmony side by side. So what are you saying? Our American experiment in multicultural republicanism is doomed to failure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Ummm... which is why we are racist. What do you think when a white guy enters your elevator: Guy. What do you think when a black guy enters your elevator: Black guy. I don't know about you, but I don't. Tired of this assumption that this is the case. Not to mention that isn't racism in the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 So what are you saying? Our American experiment in multicultural republicanism is doomed to failure? Nope. That the great experiment produced a truly great country, and if only its people actually believed and practiced "all men are equal" we wouldn't be having this trouble and Colin would have stood for the anthem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Nope. That the great experiment produced a truly great country, and if only its people actually believed and practiced "all men are equal" we wouldn't be having this trouble and Colin would have stood for the anthem. So who doesn't believe "all men are equal"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Nope. That the great experiment produced a truly great country, and if only its people actually believed and practiced "all men are equal" we wouldn't be having this trouble and Colin would have stood for the anthem. I think the vast majority of Americans do believe that and do practice it. A lot of this may be generational. Are you a baby boomer? Your elevator analogy indicates you probably are. My generation doesn't have quite the same hang-ups. And my kids have no idea what we are even talking about. To them everyone is defined by their social media page not their skin color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 I don't know about you, but I don't. Tired of this assumption that this is the case. Not to mention that isn't racism in the least. I do, and you do, too. And I will almost always say something nice, or joke with him or her, which is racist, I know, but in a good way. So who doesn't believe "all men are equal"? Racists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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