Kelly the Dog Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 He was more productive than Shady last year. -Period. Except when he replaced Shady as the starter. The only time he wasn't good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Why in the world would he want that ? Rookie season wasn't good enough ? Dude's a stoner. You expect him to make sense? Read his Twitter feed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Ideal playing weight 230 lbs. Reporting weight at OTAs 253 lbs. Weight when they cut him 260 lbs. How's that for a commitment to getting in shape after OTAs? He literally couldn't play football at that weight. Period. End of story. GO BILLS!!! I could be wrong but I don't think he was 260 when they cut him. He was 261 at some point. Probably around Otas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 I could be wrong but I don't think he was 260 when they cut him. He was 261 at some point. Probably around Otas. He was too fat to play in the first preseason game. Have you ever heard of that happening to a young running back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma Pecoraro Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Why in the world would he want that ? Rookie season wasn't good enough ? I thought he made some twitter comments suggesting he wanted to go elsewhere - could be wrong but I recall it was a comment around the disparity in his eyes between salary and rookie year performance or some such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 He was too fat to play in the first preseason game. Have you ever heard of that happening to a young running back?No. He's an idiot. I'm against cutting him now but it's understandable. I was just correcting what I thought was an error. The report was at one point he was 261. He dropped some but not enough by training camp. That was a huge red flag. It took him a week to pass the physical. That sucks if not intolerable. Then Tim Graham reported that after he lost the weight he started to put some on which again is a red flag. He's clearly an idiot. I just don't think he should have been cut now, only because of chance Shady, Bush, Gillislee or JWill could easily be hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 I could be wrong but I don't think he was 260 when they cut him. He was 261 at some point. Probably around Otas. He gained weight after reporting out of shape. I heard he was 260 lbs. as of today when they cut him; 7 lbs heavier than OTAs. I don't blame the Bills one bit for deciding not to waste another minute on this guy and his immaturity. He literally couldn't play the game as a result. It's a shame, but it was the right call to not waste a valuable roster spot on someone not showing any movement in the right direction to this point. He's been all downhill. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 He gained weight after reporting out of shape. I heard he was 260 lbs. as of today when they cut him; 7 lbs heavier than OTAs. I don't blame the Bills one bit for deciding not to waste another minute on this guy and his immaturity. He literally couldn't play the game as a result. It's a shame, but it was the right call to not waste a valuable roster spot on someone not showing any movement in the right direction to this point. He's been all downhill. GO BILLS!!! Again I could be wrong. But the report from Shefter was at some point he was 261. That was VERY likely at OTAs. There was another report that after he lost the weight they wanted him to he then gained weight. But that was VERY likely during camp when he was 240 or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 He gained weight after reporting out of shape. I heard he was 260 lbs. as of today when they cut him; 7 lbs heavier than OTAs. I don't blame the Bills one bit for deciding not to waste another minute on this guy and his immaturity. He literally couldn't play the game as a result. It's a shame, but it was the right call to not waste a valuable roster spot on someone not showing any movement in the right direction to this point. He's been all downhill. GO BILLS!!! Heard from a OBD source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Didn't Williams suggest that he wanted to play somewhere else after last season? Maybe his lack of impulse control was really sub-conscious calculation. May not be subconscious if he really wanted out bad enough. I wouldn't be surprised if all those extra pounds are gone once his suspension is up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma Pecoraro Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 May not be subconscious if he really wanted out bad enough. I wouldn't be surprised if all those extra pounds are gone once his suspension is up. He's developmentally disabled already, so a svelte body won't help him after the next concussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 (edited) #34 loves Karlos so we need to factor that in. He's said that he wouldn't trade him for Zeke and that he's better than McCoy. http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/186802-karlos-is-key/?fromsearch=1 We all have our favorites and it clouds rational judgement. Edited August 21, 2016 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Yes they all coddle their star players--there you go. How do you know Karlos wasn't interested in bettering himself? He said the same things Dareus said 2years ago--and Marcel wasn't serious about "bettering himself" was he? Yet he didn't get cut So if all teams coddle their star players, why even mention this obvious fact? Do you think they should have suspended him more than the league did? Cut him? Yeah, no. And he responded with an All-Pro season in 2014. As for Karlos, why do you suppose they cut him? Besides not being a star player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma Pecoraro Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 As for Karlos, why do you suppose they cut him? That's a question best for Daravius "Gutta" Lawrence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinVA Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Dude's a stoner. You expect him to make sense? Read his Twitter feed. His twitter feed is awful. The guy seems a little off in the head, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Mother F! My dumb ass just drafted that dumb ass in fantasy football an hour after this announcement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Grid Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 I looked at this two different ways. Before the game when this broke I was shocked and figured this was a boneheaded move. After the game watching how the D played etc, I began to think this was a rationally calculated move. Rex has this team believing in him, his system, and themselves. Last year he let cancerous guys like Mario (and Dareus) infect the rest of the team and destroy the team culture. This year Rex has got the momentum and they decided to cut a poor performer to keep things going the right direction. Williams showed a lot of promise and may blossom elsewhere, but as long as the team is pulling one direction behind Rex I'm not going to question cutting an underperformed / new potential locker room cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 That's a question best for Daravius "Gutta" Lawrence. Isn't he dead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Given the game today? I think we're gonna be OK at RB. I saw some nice moves, some power, and a cheap shot on Gillislee that should have been called. No...I'm not even gonna start on the refs. But, the thing I saw that impressed me the most? Solid, competent, blitz pickups most of the time, from most of the RBs. That tells me these guys know the playbook. Who knows what's going to happen. We could have Boom Herron starting 2 games this year(one hopes that is the worst case). But, even so, I'm pretty sure we'll be better than fine in terms of production. And I know that we'll be at least competent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 How the hell does Karlos Williams come to camp overweight and then GAIN WEIGHT since he's been there? That's almost physically impossible with all the running and lifting and playing they are doing unless he is eating a box of Paula's Donuts every night before bed... Karlos really fvcked up...it's a damn shame because he was a hell of a player when he was right... What the hell is wrong with that dude?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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