Mr. WEO Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 His past performance has zero impact on this season's 53. He'll either make it or not based upon the merits of his performance in this camp and preseason. No one is thinking of it on the staff? No one is going to compare his performance to any other, down the list WR in camp with no history of frequent injury? If another guy steps up and plays as well as Goodwin, his previous performance, such as it was, will have "zero impact" on their decision making, you say? Not sure that is believable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 how many years do you spend a roster spot on him hoping that he figures out how to stay off the injury report from a few touches per game. A fast car that's always in the shop is nothing more than eye candy. Give me a slow old Anquan Bolden who gets open, catches the ball and is usually active on Sunday Have you ever driven a Ferrari? It is probably the coolest thing ever, But the cost of maintenance is absurd. So you do not daily drive it. Only on Sunday when it is not raining and we might have a couple Boldins on the Bills already. I do get your point but does Anquon demand a safety over the top ? If Goodwin goes injured you just bring up a PS guy. Because Antonio Brown plays games and catches a lot of balls. When Goodwin is healthy and playing in games, he does not catch a lot of balls. Other than that, I can't tell them apart.. But really--look back at 2014. The guy did play. He didn't catch more than 1 ball. How is he open all the time? When has he ever been, without question, the 3rd best WR on this team? How many targets? Weo you are correct in a manner. It is a decision the staff needs make. Risk reward thing. We have been arguing more than one feature about Bills and Goodwin. But the kid can play football. Him becoming injured is more likely than not if history is telling the story. I choose to let him play this year. I also am thinking i better have enough depth AND the ability to change up some scheme when Goodwin or Sammy or Woods gets injured. Sometimes ya gotta just trust the Coaches Weo. Not easy as bills fan, I know. we all know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 My expectations are low, but it would be a nice surprise if he could stay on the field.count me in this group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 count me in this group simple enough concept, right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 No one is thinking of it on the staff? No one is going to compare his performance to any other, down the list WR in camp with no history of frequent injury? If another guy steps up and plays as well as Goodwin, his previous performance, such as it was, will have "zero impact" on their decision making, you say? Not sure that is believable. So let's see. You laugh off the other guys that Goodwin is competing against, yet you also don't think that Goodwin deserves a spot on the final roster. But no, you don't revel in strawman arguments. Not at all. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Have you ever driven a Ferrari? It is probably the coolest thing ever, But the cost of maintenance is absurd. So you do not daily drive it. Only on Sunday when it is not raining and we might have a couple Boldins on the Bills already. I do get your point but does Anquon demand a safety over the top ? If Goodwin goes injured you just bring up a PS guy. How many targets? Weo you are correct in a manner. It is a decision the staff needs make. Risk reward thing. We have been arguing more than one feature about Bills and Goodwin. But the kid can play football. Him becoming injured is more likely than not if history is telling the story. I choose to let him play this year. I also am thinking i better have enough depth AND the ability to change up some scheme when Goodwin or Sammy or Woods gets injured. Sometimes ya gotta just trust the Coaches Weo. Not easy as bills fan, I know. we all know. Goodwin was never a Ferrari though. Maybe an Acura NSX.. 9 targets. 1 catch. And a fumble. "Trust the coaches"? Now that's a whole other 5-10 threads right there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 History repeats itself in his fourth season... Goodwin makes strides at camp Goodwin makes team Goodwin nonexistent Week 1 Goodwin nonexistent Week 2 Gooodwin nonexistent Week 3 Goodwin out for the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 So let's see. You laugh off the other guys that Goodwin is competing against, yet you also don't think that Goodwin deserves a spot on the final roster. But no, you don't revel in strawman arguments. Not at all. Ever. Laugh off? Who am I laughing off? I asked another simple question. Your answer is unresponsive. You instead argue against something I didn't claim. What do they call that again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Laugh off? Who am I laughing off? I asked another simple question. Your answer is unresponsive. You instead argue against something I didn't claim. What do they call that again? That's all you do. Ask simple questions. nothing more nothing less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Goodwin was never a Ferrari though. Maybe an Acura NSX.. 9 targets. 1 catch. And a fumble. "Trust the coaches"? Now that's a whole other 5-10 threads right there! nice. the NSX. and thats a whole other thread too ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 That's all you do. Ask simple questions. nothing more nothing less Simple, yes...yet some can't answer, which is a form of answering. nice. the NSX. and thats a whole other thread too ! The REAL one--not that crappy re-boot! It's a nice car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 No one is thinking of it on the staff? No one is going to compare his performance to any other, down the list WR in camp with no history of frequent injury? If another guy steps up and plays as well as Goodwin, his previous performance, such as it was, will have "zero impact" on their decision making, you say? Not sure that is believable. But there are no reports that anyone else is playing as well as Goodwin. If there were, you might have something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 But there are no reports that anyone else is playing as well as Goodwin. If there were, you might have something. I hope it's all true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 I hope it's all true. We live in hope and die in despair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 We live in hope and die in despair. Amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 How is he open all the time? When has he ever been, without question, the 3rd best WR on this team? I never argued he's open all the time. Just that he's more than "a track guy", he's a football player. He's got more ability and skill than you're giving him credit for, he's a legit NFL WR when he's not on IR, but don't mistake that as me saying he's a pro-bowler in waiting. Though for any of this to matter he has to stay healthy. Let's hope he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 I hope it's all true. Are you insinuating that Bills' beat reporters are liars to push a Goodwin agenda? Astro, too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Have you ever driven a Ferrari? It is probably the coolest thing ever, But the cost of maintenance is absurd. So you do not daily drive it. Only on Sunday when it is not raining and we might have a couple Boldins on the Bills already. I do get your point but does Anquon demand a safety over the top ? If Goodwin goes injured you just bring up a PS guy. How many targets? Weo you are correct in a manner. It is a decision the staff needs make. Risk reward thing. We have been arguing more than one feature about Bills and Goodwin. But the kid can play football. Him becoming injured is more likely than not if history is telling the story. I choose to let him play this year. I also am thinking i better have enough depth AND the ability to change up some scheme when Goodwin or Sammy or Woods gets injured. Sometimes ya gotta just trust the Coaches Weo. Not easy as bills fan, I know. we all know. I guarentee the safety worries more about what bolden is doing than a guy on IR. And anyhow I've heard for eons how these speed guys take the top off of the defense, but the top offenses don't seem to even have these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 I never argued he's open all the time. Just that he's more than "a track guy", he's a football player. He's got more ability and skill than you're giving him credit for, he's a legit NFL WR when he's not on IR, but don't mistake that as me saying he's a pro-bowler in waiting. Though for any of this to matter he has to stay healthy. Let's hope he does. I'm just saying that we simply haven't seen enough of him to conclude he's as good as you say. He really missed 2015 and he was ignored in 2014 when he did play. Let's hope he does. Are you insinuating that Bills' beat reporters are liars to push a Goodwin agenda? Astro, too? Wow you are all over the place. I'm sure he's having a great camp. They said the same things in 2013. It's almost (almost) meaningless however. This kid struggles to suit up for half a season. No one has hit him yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Wow you are all over the place. I'm sure he's having a great camp. They said the same things in 2013. It's almost (almost) meaningless however. This kid struggles to suit up for half a season. No one has hit him yet. I'm trying to figure out why people are hating on the kid who's having the best camp in years and can really help the offense this year. Btw, he had a decent rookie 2013 and it's still a mystery why Marrone mothballed him when he was healthy in 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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