Blokestradamus Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 If Taylor Decker makes it to #19, I think he would likely be my personal BPA. Tunsil already gone and Decker gone? It might be a big need but don't reach for one. Not in this class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 If the question is who is our weakest every down starter, it's probably RT If it's where would a probowler being added have the biggest impact - front 7? If the question is where will we go with our number 1 pick, likely defense BPA to salvage Rex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 It may not be a need, but given that Glenn isn't signed long term, it may be a good idea. Personally I'd rather they go for a difference maker on defense. Whether that's a DL or OLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 If the question is who is our weakest every down starter, it's probably RT If it's where would a probowler being added have the biggest impact - front 7? If the question is where will we go with our number 1 pick, likely defense BPA to salvage Rex This. Might spend the 2nd on OL. If Tyrod's gonna throw for more yards he's gonna need more time to go deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 (edited) Folks, in the last 10 years, the Bills have drafted a player in the first round (absent the year without a first round pick), that visited with the team. So why do I bring that up? Out of the 30 visits that the Bills (and every other team) are allowed by the NFL, 13 are scheduled. Out of those 13 scheduled, only 3 are on the offensive side of the ball, with two being quarterbacks. Neither Dak Prescott or Cardale Jones are being drafted anywhere close to the first round. Taylor Decker is slated to meet with the team, so OL could be an option. In this scenario, Decker would likely start at RT this year and be a potential option to move to LT, should they not be able to lock up Glenn to a long term contract. Of the other 4 guys that grade out as first round material, Darron Lee, Reggie Ragland, and Shelden Rankins all make sense to me. Rex's defenses have always relied upon the linebackers to make the calls on the field and the Bills need to replace Bradham. Rankins makes sense as well, as they could move Dareus to the outside to play 5 technique and have Rankins clog the middle. The guy that makes a little less sense is Eli Apple, unless they're also assuming that it's possible that Gilmore will walk next year or they just want more quality defensive backs. After all, that's part of the model of "beating Tom Brady". Pressure up front plus quality coverage in the secondary. I personally think those thinking WR are drunk. There's 10 WR's on their roster already and the Bills signed 3 new guys since January, including Jarrett Boykin, Greg Little, and Leonard Hankerson. They also re-signed Greg Salas. Easley isn't going anywhere and they still have Wood, Goodwin, Powell, and Lewis. So unless they start dropping WR's and more important, actually having WR's visit two bills drive, it's highly unlikely that we'll see WR in the first. This guy is right. It's going to be a player that visits. I'm not very excited about the guys they have brought in... I dread them drafting a D-lineman when we just sat through a season where all the D-linemen complained about Wrex's scheme. D-line is where the talent is, but this defense needs exceptional players at Safety and ILB, and of course, there aren't many in this draft. Edited April 6, 2016 by HoF Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 This guy is right. It's going to be a player that visits. I'm not very excited about the guys they have brought in... I dread them drafting a D-lineman when we just sat through a season where all the D-linemen complained about Wrex's scheme. D-line is where the talent is, but this defense needs exceptional players at Safety and ILB, and of course, there aren't many in this draft. Dont forget Vernon Butler....who makes a ton of sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 The team is dependent on the run The QB needs time to let vertical patterns develop...plus he can be indecisive at times The future is uncertain for the team's current LT Defenses have been putting more emphasis on the pass rush. At least, you can make a strong argument to justify an OT at 19. LT/RT are closer to being interchangeable than they used to be. That would be like drafting a kick at 19. You can find a good RT in round 2 or later. They should pick the BPA. If that happens to be a tackle, then go for it. But if there is a tackle available at 19, it is most likely a player that is good enough to play LT. And mostly likley glens replacement down the road. We would be a lot better off if BPA when we pick at 19 is a LB or interior Dline. Even a safety. But a RT at 19, sounds like a wasted pick. rounds 2-4 we can get a RT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 (edited) If Taylor Decker makes it to #19, I think he would likely be my personal BPA... Not trying trying to ninja your post...But without even counting I know there are at least 10-12 D-Linemen I would take over Decker in this Draft...And I'm not saying he's a bad prospect...But I don't think there's a snowballs chance in Hades he'll be the BPA at #19...There would have to be a massive run on D-Linemen...And even then maybe not... If the question is who is our weakest every down starter, it's probably RT If it's where would a probowler being added have the biggest impact - front 7? If the question is where will we go with our number 1 pick, likely defense BPA to salvage Rex Agreed... But I also think it just happens to line up this year...This D-line group is loaded with talent...It should be a win-win for Rex... Edited April 6, 2016 by KOKBILLS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 we have too many #1 needs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 No way we go RT in the first. Best 5 tech beast available. Drafting in our range is interesting because a few big names will inevitably slide and we might get a call to trade down. If that happens I could see us taking Dodd, who will be there late first round, and then going WR/LB/OT with the next 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 A case certainly can be made for OT, LB, WR or even QB (due to the importance of the position and the uncertainty surrounding TT). And you can probably throw OG and NT in, too. Sadly, we can justify a lot of positions at #1. I don't mean to knock DW but we seem to have a lot of needs. Which leads me to hope we go BPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 No way we go RT in the first. Best 5 tech beast available. Drafting in our range is interesting because a few big names will inevitably slide and we might get a call to trade down. If that happens I could see us taking Dodd, who will be there late first round, and then going WR/LB/OT with the next 3. I feel like this could be a very good draft for us given where we draft and what might be available.....shoot.....we could even trade down say....with the steelers....pick up a 2nd day pick....and STILL find a quality player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 biggest need is a 3-4 NT.....we don't have one on roster. biggest impact OLB biggest improvement for offense is a right side OL then we need a QB & WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000650098/article/2016-nfl-draft-top-five-needs-for-all-32-teams I disagree as I think they have to go DLine or LB with first pick. Henderson, if healthy supposedly has the talent. Kouandgio is looking more and more like a whiff of a second round pick. That's too bad because the second round has generally been good to the Bills. Kouandijo actually played pretty well last year when he got a lot of time in the Jacksonville and Cincinnati games. Something must be going on behind the scenes with health or something else. All depends on cap strtegy. If plan is to let Glenn walk next year and use money for Gilmore and Taylor, then OT is a top priority. If the plan is to lock Glenn up then the priority is LB, LB, NT, SS, DE. If the plan is to draft an OT because Glenn will be allowed to walk their plan will be another OT drafted next year then. Which is a horrible plan. I don't think Glenn is going anywhere and I think they draft DE/OLB, LB, DT in the first three rounds, with the sleeper being a WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Character questions would be the only reason he might LAST to 19 I'd suggest his underwhelming combine numbers might be the 2nd reason. If Spence is there that would probably be my pick. I feel like the "offensive line is so important/our offensive line always sucks/always draft offensive line" people are the same as the "we should always trade down in the draft" people. Two concepts that are kind of oversimplified and constantly suggested regardless of our current situation or the draft for that matter. I don't think anyone is making an always draft O-line argument. The argument is what might offer the best value to the Bill at 19. Could be #1 need but BPA in round 1 will probably be a defensive player. I am not sure it will actually. I can very well see a situation where Conklin or Decker are the BPA at 19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 The question it would raise in my head, if the Bills did select an OT at 19, would be does this player make the team as a whole immediately better? For me, I understand that you can't have all-star talent along the entire OL, and with the exception of Dallas most teams don't. Dallas' position is unique in that they were in almost the perfect situation when they selected their OL. They needed help desperately on the defensive side of the ball but if you look at the 2011, 2013 and 2014 drafts the OLinemen they selected were really the best players on the board, with the exception of 2011 when they could have selected JJ Watt. I guess the argument would be who would have helped them more Watt or Smith? And they got extremely lucky last year when La'el Collins decided to sign with them. It's an interesting debate. I know the RT position is more important now because defenses bring pressure from both sides but I don't know if selecting a RT makes this team 1 or 2 wins better. If that OL is the BPA at 19 and they don't think they can sign Glenn long term, I completely understand the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 (edited) I know the RT position is more important now because defenses bring pressure from both sides but I don't know if selecting a RT makes this team 1 or 2 wins better. If that OL is the BPA at 19 and they don't think they can sign Glenn long term, I completely understand the pick. Yea - I think it only makes sense is Conklin or Decker are the BPA at that point - but based on my own grades I can see a scenario where their choice is actually OT Decker, LB Darron Lee or DT Jarran Reed who I have graded pretty similarly. Then I think you have a choice to make. Is linebacker the bigger current need? Yes. Do I love the idea of a linebacker who isn't an outside pass rush specialist at 19? Not particularly. But it also depends on what the Bills instinct is telling them on Glenn. If they have ANY doubt about their ability to tie him down long term then for me it makes OT unquestionably the right decision in the potential scenario I outline above. Edited April 6, 2016 by GunnerBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Not trying trying to ninja your post...But without even counting I know there are at least 10-12 D-Linemen I would take over Decker in this Draft...And I'm not saying he's a bad prospect...But I don't think there's a snowballs chance in Hades he'll be the BPA at #19...There would have to be a massive run on D-Linemen...And even then maybe not... I'm much higher on Decker than most are. I think he's a top 10 player in the class and a future franchise LT. Hence why he would come into the reckoning at 19 as BPA. Only got 3 DL players higher ranked than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 I'm much higher on Decker than most are. I think he's a top 10 player in the class and a future franchise LT. Hence why he would come into the reckoning at 19 as BPA. Only got 3 DL players higher ranked than him. Who are the three DL players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Who are the three DL players? A'Shawn Robinson, Sheldon Rankins, Andrew Billings. Obviously there's Bosa, Spence, Shaq Lawson too but they go in the Edge class for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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