BuffaloBill Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Is the game better off with this change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 It makes the kicking game much more important. Anything that does that makes the game worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 It caused the Patriots to lose a playoff game so obviously it's the best rule change ever. That aside, it completely sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 I don't think it should have as much bearing on the game as it did last year. I think making it permanent is the right move, if only that kickers can solely focus on it without any potential limbo about it changing back again. Kickers are creatures of habit, it clearly shook a select few of them last year (Carpenter included). 33 yard field goals aren't hard outside of rain and frozen conditions. I think where your team plays dictates how you see the rule change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 (edited) It made a non-competitive, inconsequential play meaningful so I'm on board. Edited March 23, 2016 by SinceThe70s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Avon Lake now Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 I like the rule change despite how much it seemed to hurt the Bills and Carpenter last year. I wish they had gone for more 2 point plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRT88 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 it's good for the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 I'm not a fan. The hope was that more teams would go for 2. I think that Pittsburgh is the only team that did it with regularity. I was hoping that it would have been moved to the 1. Instead of making the extra point harder it would have made the 2 point try easier. That would have been more interesting IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 (edited) I don't think it should have as much bearing on the game as it did last year. I think making it permanent is the right move, if only that kickers can solely focus on it without any potential limbo about it changing back again. Kickers are creatures of habit, it clearly shook a select few of them last year (Carpenter included). 33 yard field goals aren't hard outside of rain and frozen conditions. I think where your team plays dictates how you see the rule change. Agree but those are worth 3 points......a 20 yd FG is worth 3 but you need 33 to get 1...doesn't make sense....make shorter FGs worth less then Edited March 23, 2016 by nucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 From a purist standpoint it is an abomination. It does artificially inject some excitement into the game. I wish these sports entities would for once take a long term perspective rather trying to maximize short term profits at every turn. In a few weeks everyone will be watching the greatest golf tournament in the world where corporate tents are banned and TV commercials almost nonexistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 I like it. I think you'll see more 2 point plays moving forward, especially from teams with shaky kickers. Now teams have had a full season of play plus a full offseason with the rule, I expect some creative 2 point plays to be cooked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 It makes the kicking game much more important. Anything that does that makes the game worse. This - they should be minimizing the impact of kickers, not having the outcomes of games determined more by 'idiot kickers' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Agree but those are worth 3 points......a 20 yd FG is worth 3 but you need 33 to get 1...doesn't make sense....make shorter FGs worth less then I've always thought that one point for an XP was fair, given the relative difficulty (or lack thereof) of the kick. As you stated, it doesn't make sense the way the scoring system stands now. If you made a chip shot FG worth 1 point, it would make teams go for it on 4th and Goal more. It would penalise teams with an inept RZ offense. That would make the game much more 'sexy' than the rule change for the XP. Try as they might, you can't make the kicking game sexy. There's too many mouth breathers that resent special teamers even being on the field to make it more watchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Agree but those are worth 3 points......a 20 yd FG is worth 3 but you need 33 to get 1...doesn't make sense....make shorter FGs worth less then So follow one bad rule with another even worse rule all because PATs weren't exciting enough? No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 when you losing games on xpts something is wrong with the game. Didnt need to be fixed, put the energy into finding refs under 70 years old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 So follow one bad rule with another even worse rule all because PATs weren't exciting enough? No thanks. My point was it doesn't make sense when you are kicking a longer distance for 1 point that you will for 3 on some occasions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 My point was it doesn't make sense when you are kicking a longer distance for 1 point that you will for 3 on some occasions. No that doesn't make sense. So put the PAT back where it belongs. Problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 I would move it back another 5 yards, making it a 38 yard field goal. There would obviously be more misses-making the game more exciting. And it would also make teams at least think harder about going for the two pointer, when weighing the longer extra point. Another issue that gets overlooked by many is when the kickoff was moved forward to the 35 yard line. Awful rule. Ruined an exciting part of the game. It should be at least back at the 30, bringing the kickoff return back into play. Football is a collision sport. Taking that out of the game is sinful by Goodell and company. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 No that doesn't make sense. So put the PAT back where it belongs. Problem solved. I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 (edited) I would move it back another 5 yards, making it a 38 yard field goal. There would obviously be more misses-making the game more exciting. And it would also make teams at least think harder about going for the two pointer, when weighing the longer extra point. Another issue that gets overlooked by many is when the kickoff was moved forward to the 35 yard line. Awful rule. Ruined an exciting part of the game. It should be at least back at the 30, bringing the kickoff return back into play. Football is a collision sport. Taking that out of the game is sinful by Goodell and company. Thoughts? I guess I'm missing the "excitement" part. Which of Carpenter's misses was the most exciting last year? Edited March 23, 2016 by KD in CT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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