muppy Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 1 hour ago, bilzfancy said: A better one is Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction lol okay fair enough..music appreciation is subjective. The youtube I posted spoke about teaching children right from wrong amongst other things. Good moral values aren't mutually exclusive I think people need to try to hear both sides of an perspective to be fully aware and cognizant of what needs to change.
Foxx Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 5 hours ago, Warren Zevon said: According to the CDC definition of tear gas, tear gas was used - but does the type of gas really matter when there is ample video evidence of the military/police clearing out protesters by force so Trump could go to the outside of a church? the liberal in you should know that words have meaning and their usage matters. after all, words are just as harmful as physical actions, right? 1
Uncle Joe Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 42 minutes ago, Margarita said: lol okay fair enough..music appreciation is subjective. The youtube I posted spoke about teaching children right from wrong amongst other things. Good moral values aren't mutually exclusive I think people need to try to hear both sides of an perspective to be fully aware and cognizant of what needs to change. I think his point is some of us Boomers were young once have seen or heard more than 1 riot or protest song.
fansince88 Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 6 hours ago, Warren Zevon said: According to the CDC definition of tear gas, tear gas was used - but does the type of gas really matter when there is ample video evidence of the military/police clearing out protesters by force so Trump could go to the outside of a church? Let me make a suggestion for you. Go stand in both and report back. Bet you change your tune. I dont think you are in the know just yet that there is a difference. 1 1
Foxx Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 59 minutes ago, Margarita said: lol okay fair enough..music appreciation is subjective. The youtube I posted spoke about teaching children right from wrong amongst other things. Good moral values aren't mutually exclusive I think people need to try to hear both sides of an perspective to be fully aware and cognizant of what needs to change. I'd be careful what you wish for if I were you. if morals and knowing right from wrong are to be taught again on a vigorous basis, the left will go away within a generation. guaranteed. 3
Wacka Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, B-Man said: The "food ghettos" are because the stores are being ripped off by the residents of the ghettos. Look up FIGMOS on the east side of Buffalo. An African American store owner had to close after less than a year because if the massive theft from his store. FIGMOS- Finally I Got My Own Supermarket. .
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, B-Man said: . ...MANY more to follow.....SMH.......... Neighborhood out of gas after Speedway on Lake Avenue closes following looting Mary Chao, Rochester Democrat and Chronicle Published 9:53 a.m. ET June 4, 2020 | Updated 12:00 p.m. ET June 4, 2020 Cars pulling into the Speedway at 440 Lake Ave. for gas are finding only shattered glass and a boarded-up store and pumps. For 55 years, there has been a station at the site in this northwest city neighborhood. But after the looting on Saturday night into early Sunday morning, landlord David Pelusio said he received a call from Speedway LLC Tuesday that it plans to permanently shut down the station. A Speedway corporate spokesperson declined to comment when called. https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2020/06/04/speedway-lake-avenue-rochester-closing-after-being-looted/3133184001/ Edited June 5, 2020 by OldTimeAFLGuy 2
KD in CA Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, B-Man said: . Next up.....left wing blogs whine about "food deserts" in black neighborhoods. Edited June 4, 2020 by KD in CA 2
Reality Check Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/2-nypd-cops-shot-1-stabbed-brooklyn-police-brutality-riots-go-global
Reality Check Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 https://www.zerohedge.com/political/protester-shot-my-sister-teenager-records-gut-wrenching-message-after-deadly-riot Black people being killed in the name of protesting black people being killed is OK apparently. Crazy! 1
Koko78 Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 6 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I don't see any laughing. ?♂️ Lots of "stay home" responses. Hey, that is what we were told for the covid "crisis," same should apply here. 3
B-Man Posted June 4, 2020 Author Posted June 4, 2020 . I am proud to say that Father Kevin is my cousin, in fact he married the B-Wife and me. Reflecting on Racism and Ways to Confront a Crisis by Kevin Mullen, OFM | June 3, 2020 | After watching and reflecting on the protests around the United States that followed the May 25 death in Minneapolis, Minnesota, of George Floyd, Provincial Minister Kevin Mullen, OFM, writes about the situation and on the cause of the killing by the police officer: racism. In the message below he describes three perspectives for responding to a crisis. My lived experience in Holy Name Province has taught me to approach issues by looking through three lenses: fraternal, pastoral, and reflective. Through these lenses, specific questions arise: How does this issue affect my life with my brothers? How does this issue affect the lives of the people whom I serve? What can I learn about this issue from reading, reflection, prayer, and discussion that may shed light upon the world that I inhabit? Such a method is not original nor is it unique – I learned it through the framework of a liberal arts education and from watching the example of many wise sisters and brothers who have tried to live an integral and engaged life in this world. When confronted with the challenge of trying to respond to a crisis, I draw upon this three-fold methodology to assist me in formulating my personal response. Most recently, I have employed this method as I struggle to understand and come to grips with the horror, the outrage, the frustration and the violence that have burst forth in our country following the murder of George Floyd. The horrific facts of this case have been documented and indicate that a man was killed in a brutal manner by a police officer who deliberately abused the power given to one who wants “to protect and serve” the community at large. We know from history, and we should have guessed, that in the United States of America racism was the root cause of this violent crime. Recognizing Anger and Pain From my fraternal lens, I know that George Floyd’s death angered many in Holy Name Province while causing great pain to brothers who are African-American, Latino, or Asian, and who have also experienced the sting of white privilege and racism within our fraternity, Church, and world. Upon reflection, I realized that I have contributed to their pain – not in deliberate acts or words, but by my indifference, or failure to act, or by closing my ears to their call to me and other brothers. We need to change our ways so as to confront the embedded racism that we have been exposed to and (unconsciously) embraced by growing up as “privileged white men.” From my pastoral lens, I recognized the need to include the topic of racism in regular evangelization efforts such as liturgical preaching, religious education, and adult faith formation. Sadly, the sin of racism is not known nor are its consequences appreciated in many of the communities where the friars minister. We must do more. As a Provincial who shares responsibility with bishops for certifying friars for public ministry and who has oversight of formation programs, I need to insist that the topic of racism and its connection to economic, ecological, and social justice must be understood and appreciated by those who want to be Friars Minor and minister within the Church. Finally, from my reflective lens, I must continue to read and study, but more importantly, I need to listen to the voices of sisters and brothers of color who are willing to share their experiences. The answers are not in the books alone, they are discovered in the encounter of people who have lived with this pain and who, nonetheless, have not given up on themselves or on the possibility that change and conversion are possible. More at the Link: https://hnp.org/reflecting-on-racism-and-ways-to-confront-a-crisis/?fbclid=IwAR2raFEXQICjaZfKUQoa__7jHlSfsdphgUP12oqSmc7-mjyyt1kRhsdwRrI 1 4
RochesterRob Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Uncle Joe said: I was thinking about what slavery has probably built - the pyramids, the Great Wall of China, The Roman Coliseum etc. To be consistent is there any discussion of tearing these down? I've already have seen similar arguments and it will not appease today's hard core liberals. Heck, the English raided Ireland for several centuries for conscripted labor and the arguments spew forth about how the Irish got their due in the 20th Century and how society was more or less white blind starting in the 19th Century. That would come as news to my Irish ancestors who no doubt are rolling over in their graves as how good they supposedly had it starting around 1850 in the US. I remember it said that my grandmother suffered corporal punishment by her employer as late as the Great Depression if she did not move fast enough in her job as a seamstress. I remember my wife's grandfather talk about people being fired due to their (white) ethnicity at what would eventually become AC Delco in Rochester. 1
Jauronimo Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Uncle Joe said: I was thinking about what slavery has probably built - the pyramids, the Great Wall of China, The Roman Coliseum etc. To be consistent is there any discussion of tearing these down? 1
Magox Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 More from the Thought Control tactics of the N.Y. times, this time they introduce New Speak ”safetyism” #Orwellian 2 1
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