bdutton Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Its funny. My wife is Eastern European. She personally took part in the peaceful protests that was the first domino that caused the wall to fall. All of her community of eastern European community as a whole are aghast at the leftward socialist/communist movement in the US they are seeing. The exact same type of government they either escaped before or helped change within to a democratic state. Now they see themselves living in a country that is trying to GO BACK TO a type of government that forced them to protest/escape in the first place. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Reality Check said: Still worshiping Fast and Furious Obama? Nope. Obama was also useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Justice said: Man when you leave it up to armed citizens to protect themselves it can turn out badly. Very badly. I’ve seen videos of ppl taken aback that ppl are defending their businesses. As of now there isn’t much shooting but if this continues there will be plenty. If these thugs are stupid enough to go into Suburbia, then it will get ugly. And there are reports that it is already filtering into Suburbia a little bit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Margarita said: nice deflection. What has he done that is illegal? It's a simple question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, bilzfancy said: If someone breaks into your house, threatens you and your family and starts stealing your belongings, are you gonna just sit there and let them? I own a dog who would never let them past the front door but fancy all Im saying is all this shooting being advocated you may have the right if your life is being endangered but firing a gun and the consequences of that aren't always as cut and dried as you think....are guns legal Yes, can people protect their homes and familys of course. But you better have a good reason and you better be able to defend that shooting if you dont want to get your own self into trouble. Not all and any shootings are justified Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 hour ago, njbuff said: You are a fvcking idiot. You truly are. I would have a more intellectual political conversation with a mummy rather than you. Leave his mum out of this. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Nope. Obama was also useless. There might be hope for you yet, albeit not much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, njbuff said: If these thugs are stupid enough to go into Suburbia, then it will get ugly. And there are reports that it is already filtering into Suburbia a little bit. The left should be begging for someone, anyone, to stop this madness now. Even if it’s someone they dislike. Do ppl realize how many ppl own guns out here? Do they realize that most gun owners lean right? This needs to stop now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, njbuff said: If these thugs are stupid enough to go into Suburbia, then it will get ugly. And there are reports that it is already filtering into Suburbia a little bit. Ever drive way outside suburbia to the middle of nowhere? Thats where I live and my boom sticks are all ready to be used. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, Reality Check said: What has he done that is illegal? It's a simple question. Just say this......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, fansince88 said: Ever drive way outside suburbia to the middle of nowhere? Thats where I live and my boom sticks are all ready to be used. so... Clarence? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, Reality Check said: What has he done that is illegal? It's a simple question. the article I posted questioned the legality of he ordering troops before invoking the Insurrection act. Maybe that article is wrong its my source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Justice said: The left should be begging for someone, anyone, to stop this madness now. Even if it’s someone they dislike. Do ppl realize how many ppl own guns out here? Do they realize that most gun owners lean right? This needs to stop now. That would be nice, but telling us won't stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Justice said: The left should be begging for someone, anyone, to stop this madness now. Even if it’s someone they dislike. Do ppl realize how many ppl own guns out here? Do they realize that most gun owners lean right? This needs to stop now. That's why I want this to stop now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, njbuff said: Now this isn't a bad response. Just for the record though, I don't think there is one damn person that isn't outraged about what happened to Floyd. I hope not. I think the issue is definitely getting lost. The media is focusing on the damage and destruction vs the thousands of people out there who are genuinely pissed off at what happens, and continues to happen on a regular basis to blacks in America. Looting is obviously not the issue. I've seen plenty of videos online of young blacks protecting businesses, knowing their message gets lost when the mob mentality takes over and tries to storm department stores for whatever they can grab. On the flip side, I've seen TONS of videos of young white males wielding hammers, crowbars, bricks, fireworks and flammables who have done a ton of terrible things over the past 5 days. I dunno if they're ANTIFA or White Supremacists or what, but they all look the same (black pants, black hoodie, face mask, often a gas mask, black backpack). These people are not there to protest anything. They're there solely to screw things up for everyone involved. They want to incite looting, burn cars, and clash with cops. The issue as I see it, and it may be wrong, is that these idiots make up a tiny percentage of the population in these crowds. Maybe 5% of people. They know exactly what they're doing, and they're the reason these protests turn violent because they do things that spark the cops, the cops put the hammer down, and the people there protesting racism get pissed off because they can't stand the cops putting them down. I don't know what the solution is. Some sort of governing and trying to improve the actual problem would be helpful and it's not happening. I just know that punishing a whole crowd, when maybe 5% of the people there are the problem is not an easy thing to navigate. Edited June 2, 2020 by jrober38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Justice said: The left should be begging for someone, anyone, to stop this madness now. Even if it’s someone they dislike. Do ppl realize how many ppl own guns out here? Do they realize that most gun owners lean right? This needs to stop now. The left wants this chaos. That is pretty obvious. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Buffalo Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Nope. Obama was also useless. I am honestly curious if you hate Trump and Obama who is your kind of leader? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, bdutton said: Its funny. My wife is Eastern European. She personally took part in the peaceful protests that was the first domino that caused the wall to fall. All of her community of eastern European community as a whole are aghast at the leftward socialist/communist movement in the US they are seeing. The exact same type of government they either escaped before or helped change within to a democratic state. Now they see themselves living in a country that is trying to GO BACK TO a type of government that forced them to protest/escape in the first place. About 20 years ago I worked with a young Bulgarian. I visited his parents and their friends who were also from Bulgaria. They were floored that we’d even consider socialism here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, jrober38 said: I hope not. I think the issue is definitely getting lost. The media is focusing on the damage and destruction vs the thousands of people out there who are genuinely pissed off at what happens, and continues to happen on a regular basis to blacks in America. Looting is obviously not the issue. I've seen plenty of videos online of young blacks protecting businesses, knowing their message gets lost when the mob mentality takes over and tries to storm department stores for whatever they can grab. On the flip side, I've seen TONS of videos of young white males wielding hammers, crowbars, bricks, fireworks and flammables who have done a ton of terrible things over the past 5 days. I dunno if they're ANTIFA or White Supremacists or what, but they all look the same (black pants, black hoodie, face mask, often a gas mask, black backpack). These people are not there to protest anything. They're there solely to screw things up for everyone involved. They want to incite looting, burn cars, and clash with cops. The issue as I see it, and it may be wrong, is that these idiots make up a tiny percentage of the population. Maybe 5% of people. They know exactly what they're doing, and they're the reason these protests turn violent because they do things that spark the cops, the cops put the hammer down, and the people there protesting racism get pissed off because they can't stand the cops putting them down. I don't know what the solution is. Some sort of governing would be helpful and it's not happening. I just know that punishing a whole crowd, when maybe 5% of the people there are the problem is not an easy thing to navigate. Remember it only takes a few bad apples to spoil the bunch. And in this case the violent thugs are DESTROYING the message that was originally supposed to be sent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Buffalo Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, Margarita said: I own a dog who would never let them past the front door but fancy all Im saying is all this shooting being advocated you may have the right if your life is being endangered but firing a gun and the consequences of that aren't always as cut and dried as you think....are guns legal Yes, can people protect their homes and familys of course. But you better have a good reason and you better be able to defend that shooting if you dont want to get your own self into trouble. Not all and any shootings are justified This is why I am glad I live in Florida, if someone is on my property and threatens my family in any way and I shoot him I am safe. I am not a proponent of using guns but sometimes they stop much worse things from happening 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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