GunnerBill Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I'm glad some other people are finally calling this out. Woods has been a huge disappointment in my eyes since year 2. The way he uses his feet and positions his body before attempting to make a catch, he sabotages himself every time. Combine that with below average speed, size, and hands, and you have a guy who is not good enough to be a top 2 WR in the NFL. I think the Bills realized this when they picked up Harvin, and then slotted Hogan above him in many situations when Harvin got hurt. Unfortunately combined with the bad misses on Graham and Goodwin, they are still in the market for a #2 WR. Hogan on the other hand has overachieved. He has done well, considering he isn't particularly gifted in any one area. However he also shouldn't be a #2. I am with you. I thought Woods had a promising rookie year - was a bit underwhelming last year and has been a disappointment so far this year. I didn't like the pick up of Harvin and am on record here as saying that at the time - that was bound to end in failure he is an often injured gadget player and nothing more - but it shouldn't be seen as defending Robert Woods. Hogan for me is a 3. I think he is better than the third guy on a number of teams around the league and gets better every year. I have been a supporter of Hogan against the criticism he has received repeatedly on this forum from people who decided what he was when attempting to prop up D'Rick "I don't learn plays" Rodgers two years ago and refuse to accept that he has proven them wrong. However, even I as the biggest Hogan fanboy going do not think he is a bona fide NFL #2. They have to keep trying to cobble together enough plays from Hogan, Woods and Clay to support Watkins in the passing game - but they have to look for a #2 in the offseason. Woods has proven not to be the answer sadly. The truth long term though is that once they have to pay Sammy like a true #1 (and they will) they wont be able to afford a bona fide #2 anyway unless they draft that guy and get him cheap for 4 years.... so expect around him it to be a succession of one contract draft picks and solid role players such as Chris Hogan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 It's you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Hey it worked for Riemersma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 This would have never happened if rusty jones were here. He got every player in the right cleats. I believe he even hand-sewed Cornelius bennett's cleats, and Bennett never slipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) His best outing was against jags when Watkins was out and he had EJ throwing to him. EJ is better at seeing the field and throwing to spots than TT. Of all our QBs over last 3 seasons he connects best with EJ Edited December 7, 2015 by JTSP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 too funny we all see the same thing yes he trips over his feet alot yes the throws to him seem to be terrible a lot yes he has to know where hes at as far as inbounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I think we can upgrade Woods with what he'll be asking. Hogan's our three, now they need to go out there and get 2 in the draft or FA (suggestions anyone?). Woods or not, Pegula family please, please replace the turf. I've never seen so many slips on a field... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxum Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 His best outing was against jags when Watkins was out and he had EJ throwing to him. EJ is better at seeing the field and throwing to spots than TT. Of all our QBs over last 3 seasons he connects best with EJ It is not often that JTSP is right but he is correct here. Cassel also seemed to have trouble hitting Woods. For some reason, probably because they started at same time, EJ and Woods seem to be in sync. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 If Woods falls in the end zone, does he make a sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Woods just fell again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxum Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 If Woods falls in the end zone, does he make a sound? Only if he does not want a penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 http://www.neurosymptoms.org/#/drop-attacks/4582100337 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Woods...falls... There has to be an erection joke in there, I just can't cum up with a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 if a woods falls in the woods does he make a sound? Is there someone around to hear it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbalaya Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Woods' slippers couldn't grip the turf. He fell almost every play. If it was an away game the field might be an excuse but you'd think he'd know what shoes to wear at the Ralph. Still making rookie mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I'm glad some other people are finally calling this out. Woods has been a huge disappointment in my eyes since year 2. The way he uses his feet and positions his body before attempting to make a catch, he sabotages himself every time. Combine that with below average speed, size, and hands, and you have a guy who is not good enough to be a top 2 WR in the NFL. I think the Bills realized this when they picked up Harvin, and then slotted Hogan above him in many situations when Harvin got hurt. Unfortunately combined with the bad misses on Graham and Goodwin, they are still in the market for a #2 WR. Hogan on the other hand has overachieved. He has done well, considering he isn't particularly gifted in any one area. However he also shouldn't be a #2. http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/yards-after-the-catch/2015/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxum Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) Sammy only has 1.2 YAC because he usually catches them in endzone 41 LeSean McCoy BUF RB 27 249 249 9.2 82 Charles Clay BUF TE 50 519 191 3.8 167 Chris Hogan BUF WR 30 376 96 3.2 175 Percy Harvin BUF WR 19 218 91 4.8 184 Robert Woods BUF WR 38 402 83 2.2 219 Sammy Watkins BUF WR 34 635 62 1.8 292 Karlos Williams BUF RB 6 72 29 4.8 Edited December 8, 2015 by Koolaid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulles Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 This would have never happened if rusty jones were here. He got every player in the right cleats. I believe he even hand-sewed Cornelius bennett's cleats, and Bennett never slipped. IIRC back then, they didn't wear cleats at Rich Stadium. That turf was practically green paint on concrete. They wore "turf" shoes - basically basketball shoes with hundreds of round "cleats" on the bottom. The turf at the Ralph really needs an upgrade. I'd love to see grass like Green Bay. The Pegulas' money should bail us out on that, but with a new stadium in the works, I wonder if they will just wait it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 He falls over because he is udderly flabbergasted that a pass is coming in his direction. Grossly underutilized this season, IMO. I swear to gosh thats exactly what it looked like. and what i thought. the second pass he was befuddled foot wise, i was screaming to change the cleats idiot? Serious question, a player who needs blocking leverage uses a longer cleat ? I know it was cold but it wasn't wet was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I think we can upgrade Woods with what he'll be asking. Hogan's our three, now they need to go out there and get 2 in the draft or FA (suggestions anyone?). Woods or not, Pegula family please, please replace the turf. I've never seen so many slips on a field... Hogan should be gone and maybe Woods if he cant tidy his play up this season. Hope they both improve quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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