apuszczalowski Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 the obvious next stop for Chip is the NHL.who knows, apparently when the news broke that Anthopolous, the former GM of the Toronto Blue Jays he received a call from the Phoenix Coyotes about possibly working in their front office Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 who knows, apparently when the news broke that Anthopolous, the former GM of the Toronto Blue Jays he received a call from the Phoenix Coyotes about possibly working in their front office Ya we are all scratching our heads about that one up here CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 He is done- man has he destroyed that team. One of the most arrogant coaches I have ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 He is done- man has he destroyed that team. One of the most arrogant coaches I have ever seen. He's racist against good players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I don't feel bad for Chip. If he acts fast he can get the LSU job making more money and have the best RB in college football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I wonder if he quits so he doesnt get fired CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I wonder if he quits so he doesnt get fired Probably wouldnt get his money CBF He's racist against good players. Lol it does appear that way doesnt it? And what a dumb trade- McCoy for Kiko- and his dumb personnel moves list is long. Tomorrow hes gone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevo Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I think he made some questionable personel decisions....but I feel bad for any coach when the players quit. He hasnt had the qb for his scheme. should have given up the farm for Mariotta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Hang in there for 3 more weeks Chip! CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 http://i.imgur.com/Qkvlp2G.gif Seen on Eagles message board. With caption "Eagles offense be like..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 http://i.imgur.com/Qkvlp2G.gif Seen on Eagles message board. With caption "Eagles offense be like..." He quit on his owmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 He quit on his owmer The guy put up a little more fight and effort than the Eagles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Even if they lose out from there I still think chip gets another year. Too much guarantee to fire him, and he'll make the case with the high draft order he can finally build the roster he wants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Even if they lose out from there I still think chip gets another year. Too much guarantee to fire him, and he'll make the case with the high draft order he can finally build the roster he wants I think he wants out of Philly about now! Team has quit on him it seems. It is amazing to me how many successful college coaches don't understand that their "genius" is largely INSTITUTIONAL. I coach college athletics for a living. There are haves and have nots in every sport and every level. In my game, the perennial top NCAA teams are almost all (a) big state universities or (b) ELITE academic schools. If you are not one of those you'll have a hard time placing in the top 10-15 at NCAAs. It can be done, but it's harder. Mine is not either, but we hang in there. There are a few schools that I'd love to have a crack at coaching, because I know the talent in my pool of prospects would increase dramatically. BUT, there are MANY MANY more where it would decrease (for reasons I won't bother with here), and I'd have very little chance to match the level of success we're accustomed to. So most people would consider my school to be on of the "haves" at my sport and level. So when we do well, am I good, or just lucky? Well, I'd rather be lucky than good anyway, so I'll just say I'm happy I have a job I love. Things that vary widely that affect your ceiling as a college program are not only facilities and financial resources, but location, tradition, what majors are on offer and the general academic prestige of the school. Cost is a huge one for the overwhelming majority of NCAA athletes who receive little or no athletic scholarship money. Obviously the factors that influence the ceiling in big time college football are different than for other sports/levels. My point is that a coach who lands in a spot that already has it's institutional <ahem> ducks in a row, can look like a SUPER GENIUS, when in fact they're just another good coach at a school who's trying harder to win. Coaching matters, obviously, but there are more competent coaches than there are high-potential programs for them all. Getting the head job at The University Of Nike is 80% of Kelly's genius. The other 20% was his own innovation and creativity, which he deserves credit for, of course. But for some reason, a lot of successful college coaches (all sports and levels) don't seem to have the self-awareness to realize that their own super genius was not the biggest reason they excelled. In college football, they get to the NFL where the playing field is MUCH more even and it's a different story. Kelly's moves seem to indicate he thinks he knows something no one else knows...which can only be called arrogant. Chip Kelly is a very talented coach and if he chooses to stay in the NFL (in a quality organization with a competent QB, of course) he'll do well. But it looks like he needs to eat some humble pie. One reason I love Rex is that when he makes a mistake, he stands up in front of the worlds and admits it. One thing I've learned being a coach is that you're better off when you're honest with yourself and others about your mistakes. Kelly is sharp enough that if he can become good at this he can be an excellent NFL coach. Even in Philly. I do love it when the Eagles suck, though. So I'm in no hurry for the light bulb to go on! Very good and insightful post. I learned somethings too. I dont follow much sports besides Buffalo Bills. Your description makes sense to me. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Is the eagles one of those games we are supposed to lose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Is the eagles one of those games we are supposed to lose? Was going to be a hard fought battle that could go either way. If i recall. I still think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l< j Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 It is amazing to me how many successful college coaches don't understand that their "genius" is largely INSTITUTIONAL. I coach college athletics for a living. There are haves and have nots in every sport and every level. In my game, the perennial top NCAA teams are almost all (a) big state universities or (b) ELITE academic schools. If you are not one of those you'll have a hard time placing in the top 10-15 at NCAAs. It can be done, but it's harder. Mine is not either, but we hang in there. There are a few schools that I'd love to have a crack at coaching, because I know the talent in my pool of prospects would increase dramatically. BUT, there are MANY MANY more where it would decrease (for reasons I won't bother with here), and I'd have very little chance to match the level of success we're accustomed to. So most people would consider my school to be on of the "haves" at my sport and level. So when we do well, am I good, or just lucky? Well, I'd rather be lucky than good anyway, so I'll just say I'm happy I have a job I love. Things that vary widely that affect your ceiling as a college program are not only facilities and financial resources, but location, tradition, what majors are on offer and the general academic prestige of the school. Cost is a huge one for the overwhelming majority of NCAA athletes who receive little or no athletic scholarship money. Obviously the factors that influence the ceiling in big time college football are different than for other sports/levels. My point is that a coach who lands in a spot that already has it's institutional <ahem> ducks in a row, can look like a SUPER GENIUS, when in fact they're just another good coach at a school who's trying harder to win. Coaching matters, obviously, but there are more competent coaches than there are high-potential programs for them all. Getting the head job at The University Of Nike is 80% of Kelly's genius. The other 20% was his own innovation and creativity, which he deserves credit for, of course. But for some reason, a lot of successful college coaches (all sports and levels) don't seem to have the self-awareness to realize that their own super genius was not the biggest reason they excelled. In college football, they get to the NFL where the playing field is MUCH more even and it's a different story. Kelly's moves seem to indicate he thinks he knows something no one else knows...which can only be called arrogant. Chip Kelly is a very talented coach and if he chooses to stay in the NFL (in a quality organization with a competent QB, of course) he'll do well. But it looks like he needs to eat some humble pie. One reason I love Rex is that when he makes a mistake, he stands up in front of the worlds and admits it. One thing I've learned being a coach is that you're better off when you're honest with yourself and others about your mistakes. Kelly is sharp enough that if he can become good at this he can be an excellent NFL coach. Even in Philly. I do love it when the Eagles suck, though. So I'm in no hurry for the light bulb to go on! Probably the most insightful thing I've read in however many years on this site. kj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Is the eagles one of those games we are supposed to lose? Yeah. Won't it suck when we lose and it becomes our Oakland game from last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Man, if there was ever immediate confirmation for an anonymous leak about a coach losing a team, today was it! That Eagles team reminded me of the Dolphins team we faced early in the season. Defenders out there jogging, watching guys run by, not even caring. They are done. Hopefully it stays that way for a few more weeks so we get a chance to cash in. As far as his next job, I think USC is the best and most obvious landing spot. Coaches typically like to stay in-conference. Miami, Texas, and LSU dont seem like good fits for his style. Maybe Miami, but I dont see him in that area or that program affording him. LSU, they are hungry for an offensive coach that can develop a QB, but he wont want to play SEC defenses all the tim. He'll go back to the Pac-12 and the West Coast where he still has a lot of recruiting leads. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 It is amazing to me how many successful college coaches don't understand that their "genius" is largely INSTITUTIONAL. I coach college athletics for a living. There are haves and have nots in every sport and every level. In my game, the perennial top NCAA teams are almost all (a) big state universities or (b) ELITE academic schools. If you are not one of those you'll have a hard time placing in the top 10-15 at NCAAs. It can be done, but it's harder. Mine is not either, but we hang in there. There are a few schools that I'd love to have a crack at coaching, because I know the talent in my pool of prospects would increase dramatically. BUT, there are MANY MANY more where it would decrease (for reasons I won't bother with here), and I'd have very little chance to match the level of success we're accustomed to. So most people would consider my school to be on of the "haves" at my sport and level. So when we do well, am I good, or just lucky? Well, I'd rather be lucky than good anyway, so I'll just say I'm happy I have a job I love. Things that vary widely that affect your ceiling as a college program are not only facilities and financial resources, but location, tradition, what majors are on offer and the general academic prestige of the school. Cost is a huge one for the overwhelming majority of NCAA athletes who receive little or no athletic scholarship money. Obviously the factors that influence the ceiling in big time college football are different than for other sports/levels. My point is that a coach who lands in a spot that already has it's institutional <ahem> ducks in a row, can look like a SUPER GENIUS, when in fact they're just another good coach at a school who's trying harder to win. Coaching matters, obviously, but there are more competent coaches than there are high-potential programs for them all. Getting the head job at The University Of Nike is 80% of Kelly's genius. The other 20% was his own innovation and creativity, which he deserves credit for, of course. But for some reason, a lot of successful college coaches (all sports and levels) don't seem to have the self-awareness to realize that their own super genius was not the biggest reason they excelled. In college football, they get to the NFL where the playing field is MUCH more even and it's a different story. Kelly's moves seem to indicate he thinks he knows something no one else knows...which can only be called arrogant. Chip Kelly is a very talented coach and if he chooses to stay in the NFL (in a quality organization with a competent QB, of course) he'll do well. But it looks like he needs to eat some humble pie. One reason I love Rex is that when he makes a mistake, he stands up in front of the worlds and admits it. One thing I've learned being a coach is that you're better off when you're honest with yourself and others about your mistakes. Kelly is sharp enough that if he can become good at this he can be an excellent NFL coach. Even in Philly. I do love it when the Eagles suck, though. So I'm in no hurry for the light bulb to go on! Thanks for posting. It's always nice to hear from someone with experience and insight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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