Observer Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 (edited) I dont know if I buy the desensitization part. Look back through history there were times when it was common for many people to regularly hunt and shoot as part of tbeir culture. Years ago when my dad was in school he told me stories that no one would have looked twice if you had your shotgun in your pickup truck parked in thr school parking lot while you were in class. I've killed thousands of people in gruesome ways in video games, seen thousands of others die in movies, and if I was interested, I could have watched thousands of real deaths on the web. I played the games and if I watched those videos, I would have done so at an emotional distance. When people in the past saw death and violence, it was personal and touched them, making them fear/respect it. So that's the desensitization part just to be clear. Its a different culture today. Men used to be expected to conduct themselves as gentlemen. Now they are being feminized, portrayed as bumbling idiots and blamed for everything wrong in the country. Thuglife gang culture and self proclaimed victim angry social recluses have become more common. I blame a lot of the victim mentality for people feeling sorry for themselves and blaming others for their short comings and refusng to accept personal responsibility. But the government continues to make it easier and socially acceptable to just expect handouts and blame others when things go wrong. Totally another topic but I am far from being a perfect christian but I believe there is a strong connection that as people turn away from church and church membership falls and the country is more secular extreme acts of violence increase just out of lack of morals and fear of god. This is all over the place. I'll tackle just the last point. There are more secular cultures with less violence than ours. Churches don't provide morals. Morals provide morals. Church, however, provides at least some people with the community we all need. Edited October 8, 2015 by Observer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 I blame John Travolta. His Vinny Barbarino character made being stupid popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 BREAKING NEWS OCT 9 2015, 6:25 AM ET Gunman Kills 1, Injures 3 at Northern Arizona University: School Officials http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/gunman-kills-1-injures-3-northern-arizona-university-school-officials-n441561 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 BREAKING NEWS OCT 9 2015, 6:25 AM ET Gunman Kills 1, Injures 3 at Northern Arizona University: School Officials http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/gunman-kills-1-injures-3-northern-arizona-university-school-officials-n441561 In Chicago a shooting with one dead and 3 wounded isn't breaking news. It might merit an intern squeezing in a paragraph or two between Northern Illinois lacrosse score and Hagar the Horrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 BREAKING NEWS OCT 9 2015, 6:25 AM ET Gunman Kills 1, Injures 3 at Northern Arizona University: School Officials http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/gunman-kills-1-injures-3-northern-arizona-university-school-officials-n441561 This was not a random act of violence, or a planned massacre. This was the outcome of a physical confrontation, that may have ended in tragedy. I say "may" because as far as we know, at this point, the shooting could have been justified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 This was not a random act of violence, or a planned massacre. This was the outcome of a physical confrontation, that may have ended in tragedy. I say "may" because as far as we know, at this point, the shooting could have been justified. Other than that it's identical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 In Chicago a shooting with one dead and 3 wounded isn't breaking news. It might merit an intern squeezing in a paragraph or two between Northern Illinois lacrosse score and Hagar the Horrible Good - now we don't have to pay attention to these mass shootings because it also happens in Chicago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Good - now we don't have to pay attention to these mass shootings because it also happens in Chicago Stop with the narrative. This wasn't a mass shooting. It was a conflict which escalated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 You should do a little research and discover how thoroughly wrong that all is. Get better sources. I don't have the time to research every item. I'm satisfied with the general concept though because it's simply common sense. Once the masses aren't a threat anymore it's open season. I can't honestly tell you this articles numbers are right or wrong. My sense is they are closer to being correct but perhaps exaggerated a touch. To me it matters not. Once a tyranny gets control lots of bad things happen. I don't have to research that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I don't have the time to research every item. I'm satisfied with the general concept though because it's simply common sense. Once the masses aren't a threat anymore it's open season. I can't honestly tell you this articles numbers are right or wrong. My sense is they are closer to being correct but perhaps exaggerated a touch. To me it matters not. Once a tyranny gets control lots of bad things happen. I don't have to research that. Dear native Americans, turn in your weapons and we will take care of you. Signed, US government. Not exactly the same scenario but similar point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Good - now we don't have to pay attention to these mass shootings because it also happens in Chicago You say that like you SoProg nutbags ever care for all the people murdered in Chicago every weekend. Those lives don't matter to you because they don't allow you to advance your nutbag anti-gun nonsense. In fact, all those Chicago murders do is prove how wrong you will always be on this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Remember back when the Lefties were all head over heals in love with Hugo Chavez? He was all kinds of Socialist and in 2012 he enacted excessively restrictive gun control measures Yeah, so how's that Leftist Utopia been doing lately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Cocks not Glocks, Dildos to replace guns at UT-Austin campus carry protest. http://www.mysanantonio.com/local/education/campus-chronicles/article/campus-carry-ut-austin-dildo-dildos-texas-6563276.php?cmpid=fb-mobile (That's the actual headline...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Cocks not Glocks, Dildos to replace guns at UT-Austin campus carry protest. http://www.mysanantonio.com/local/education/campus-chronicles/article/campus-carry-ut-austin-dildo-dildos-texas-6563276.php?cmpid=fb-mobile (That's the actual headline...) "This is my rifle, this is my gun!..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 "This is for fighting, this is for fun!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) Steve Green on “President Nero:” Maybe Putin will save Assad, maybe he won’t. But people and governments in the Middle East will long remember that Obama’s definition of leadership meant abandoning our allies in Baghdad, showing the back of his hand to our friends in Jerusalem, cozying up to the liars and killers in Tehran, waging an effete air campaign against ISIS, and dithering while Syria descended into an almost unimaginable humanitarian crisis. In the broader region, Obama’s leadership left Libya in ruins and wide open to ISIS penetration, alienated Egypt, decreased our leverage in Pakistan, and accomplished almost nothing in Afghanistan except to turn it into a safe haven for pederasts. Obama’s disastrous failure to lead in the Middle East has helped to flood Europe with refugees and potential terrorists, encouraging the rise of Putin-like far-right parties throughout NATO and the EU. Meanwhile, Moscow appears set to flagrantly violate Obama’s New START agreement, building up its arsenal of deployed nuclear warheads above the impending caps. Our own arsenal continues to shrink, already well under the 2018 limits. However, the president does see an opportunity coming soon to turn all this around, telling Kroft that “my definition of leadership would be leading on climate change, an international accord that potentially we’ll get in Paris.” Obama fiddled with the thermostat while the world burned. Read the whole thing. but for God's sake, please consider Steve Green's "point of view" when you do.............................. . Edited October 12, 2015 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 (edited) If only all those people had been carrying guns, and miraculously could have pulled them fast enough, and the added shooting didn't miracously create more collateral damage. Hmmmm....it's sad when the answer to gun violence in US is more guns, given a set of leap of faith assumptions, and no ones listening. 1 killed, 4 wounded in ZombiCon shooting Melissa Montoya, Ben Brasch and Michael Braun, The (Fort Myers, Fla.) News-Press 32 minutes ago FORY MYERS, Fla. A shooting left one dead and four others wounded at the ZombiCon festival in downtown Fort Myers on Saturday night, according to Lt. Victor Medico of the Fort Myers Police Department. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/10/18/one-killed-zombicon-shooting/74167508/ Edited October 18, 2015 by JTSP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 If only all those people had been carrying guns, and miraculously could have pulled them fast enough, and the added shooting didn't miracously create more collateral damage. Hmmmm....it's sad when the answer to gun violence in US is more guns, given a set of leap of faith assumptions, and no ones listening. 1 killed, 4 wounded in ZombiCon shooting Melissa Montoya, Ben Brasch and Michael Braun, The (Fort Myers, Fla.) News-Press 32 minutes ago FORY MYERS, Fla. A shooting left one dead and four others wounded at the ZombiCon festival in downtown Fort Myers on Saturday night, according to Lt. Victor Medico of the Fort Myers Police Department. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/10/18/one-killed-zombicon-shooting/74167508/ What about the vast majority of handgun owners who never take there gun from their home other than to the range to learn how to better protect themselves and their family. Why should their guns be taken away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 What about the vast majority of handgun owners who never take there gun from their home other than to the range to learn how to better protect themselves and their family. Why should their guns be taken away? Come on chef lets not let logic ruin a perfectly good left wing paranoid fallacy, it makes it harder to push their deceitful agenda to the public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) If not for the strict gun laws in Sweden this could have been a lot worse Sweden sword attack: Two killed by masked attacker http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34602621 Edited October 23, 2015 by JTSP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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